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1Star
06-28-2008, 19:08
My kid seems to be interested in the Cav Scout route. I don't know much about it - I was a grunt with the 82nd. If anyone has any experience with this MOS, can you give an overview. Thanks in advance.

nothing
06-29-2008, 10:21
Scouts are the eyes and ears of the battlefield. Most infantry and armor battalions have a scout platoon that reports directly to the S3 and BN commander. They typically operate 2 or 3 clicks ahead of the main body. Typical scout missions include Route Recon, Area and Zone Recon, Screen/OP's. Scouts are the first to clear and occupy BN Assembly Areas. At a brigade level there is usually a RSTA (recon survelance target aquisition) or ARS (armored recon squadron) that consist of 3 recon companies.

The primary mission is for scouts Recon. They find the enemy and ID avenues of approach. Scouts generally try to keep from being decisively engaged. This means they want to see the enemy without being seen. Once the enemy is located they will conduct a battle handoff with the infantry or armor elements behind them.

Scouts operate in a variaty of configurations. If they are in an Infantry BCT they use 6 humvees to maneuver, in a Heavy BCT (bradleys and Tanks) they use a combination Bradleys and humvees and in a stryker BCT they use strykers. They can all operate dismounted. They always roll very heavily armed. My platoon is in a Heavy BCT so we had 3. 50's, 2 MK19's, 8 240's plus our 3 bradleys. In this aspect they are very simular to an Infantry Weapons platoon. BN snipers are often attached to scouts as well.

Obviously it is a very demanding mission for scouts. They have to be smart enough to classify bridges, calculate slope, curves in roads, distances across rivers, speed of river current and pathfinder operations. They need to be experts at land nav, and call for fire. The skill level 1 CTT manual for a scout is 4 times larger than the one for infantry.

Coming from an infantry background I have a deep respect for scouts after having the opportunity to work with them for the past 2 years.

ynot
07-03-2008, 11:47
Scouts are the eyes and ears of the battlefield. Most infantry and armor battalions have a scout platoon that reports directly to the S3 and BN commander. They typically operate 2 or 3 clicks ahead of the main body. Typical scout missions include Route Recon, Area and Zone Recon, Screen/OP's. Scouts are the first to clear and occupy BN Assembly Areas. At a brigade level there is usually a RSTA (recon survelance target aquisition) or ARS (armored recon squadron) that consist of 3 recon companies.

The primary mission is for scouts Recon. They find the enemy and ID avenues of approach. Scouts generally try to keep from being decisively engaged. This means they want to see the enemy without being seen. Once the enemy is located they will conduct a battle handoff with the infantry or armor elements behind them.

Scouts operate in a variaty of configurations. If they are in an Infantry BCT they use 6 humvees to maneuver, in a Heavy BCT (bradleys and Tanks) they use a combination Bradleys and humvees and in a stryker BCT they use strykers. They can all operate dismounted. They always roll very heavily armed. My platoon is in a Heavy BCT so we had 3. 50's, 2 MK19's, 8 240's plus our 3 bradleys. In this aspect they are very simular to an Infantry Weapons platoon. BN snipers are often attached to scouts as well.

Obviously it is a very demanding mission for scouts. They have to be smart enough to classify bridges, calculate slope, curves in roads, distances across rivers, speed of river current and pathfinder operations. They need to be experts at land nav, and call for fire. The skill level 1 CTT manual for a scout is 4 times larger than the one for infantry.

Coming from an infantry background I have a deep respect for scouts after having the opportunity to work with them for the past 2 years.

In 1969 our mos was 11 delta, armored recon. specialist. the above is a good job description for scouts. well said.

we were housed in headquarters company of an Armored Battalion, supporting three line companies. In 1970 our scouts finished the SSPC, Scout Squad Proficiency Course in first place in the 4th Armored Division.
talk about ancient history:)

Biscuitsjam
07-03-2008, 12:26
I'm a scout in a RSTA squadron. I could answer specific questions, but I think nothing posted a pretty good overview.

Dean
07-03-2008, 13:34
Scout? Noo, no no. Stay out of that.
That's much too dangerous a job to volunteer for in wartime.
All the Scouts I know have had vehicles shot out from underneath them in Iraq.
Much better off in Intel or anything high tech in the military.
In Iran there'll be a lot of shooting and a lot of anti-tank missiles flying.

It's a great time to be an Airman or a Sailor.
It's less of a good time to be an Infantryman or Military Policeman, especially with the new age "Mix and mingle and force protection be damned" school of war fighting a la General Petreus.

Bren
07-04-2008, 07:16
I'm an 11B dirll sergeant in a reserve unit made up mainly of scouts. The unit used to train cav scouts at Ft. Knox and only switched to IET training about 2 years ago, so it's is still mostly a scout unit, with a lot of infantry, artillery, etc. now coming in from active duty (almost everybody is a former active duty, combat arms NCO). Cav scout training at Knox seems to demand a lot of brainpower, as there is a lot of technical stuff involved, as nothing said, but its nothing any soldier with a 3 digit GT score can't handle if he is motivated to do it. Every cav scout I know is also a drill sergeant, so they may not be representative of the MOS overall, but I have been impressed with the intelligence and technical knowledge of the scouts in my unit. If I was just coming in and picking an MOS, knowing what I know now (and even "in wartime") I'd go for either 11B or 19D - 11B has a lot of opportunities to do the "cool stuff" but 19D may be a little more high-speed straight out of the box.

deadday
07-05-2008, 13:18
Scout? Noo, no no. Stay out of that.
That's much too dangerous a job to volunteer for in wartime.
All the Scouts I know have had vehicles shot out from underneath them in Iraq.
Much better off in Intel or anything high tech in the military.
In Iran there'll be a lot of shooting and a lot of anti-tank missiles flying.

It's a great time to be an Airman or a Sailor.
It's less of a good time to be an Infantryman or Military Policeman, especially with the new age "Mix and mingle and force protection be damned" school of war fighting a la General Petreus.

Sarcasm I hope?

As has been said, it seems that the general overview has been given, if you or your son have any specific questions, shoot me a PM and I'll see what I can do for you. I've done everything from Squadron sized movents in a rista unit, to 7 man LRRPs (wait...we can't call them LRRPs since we're not Rangers...:upeyes:)...Oh...and we get to wear spurs and cool hats, and the ladies love the Stet...:supergrin:

1Star
07-06-2008, 21:04
thanks for the replies folks - I appreciate the info..... So far he's still pretty determined to look at 19D - I can also appreciate the "war time" comment too, but had anyone attempted to sway me at 18 with that arguement, I would have laughed at them... I'm just trying to keep the info I give him balanced and not all the sex appeal stuff - I did 4 years with the 82nd as an 11B, so that aspect I have covered. Thanks again guys for the input.