Thoughts On "New Generation" "Sentry" Rounds>?

[ULVER]

Been a while since I brought this round up. I found the original box I was given many years ago, in the locker. It was given by a visiting South African Constable, who said it was their favored "anti-car-jacking" 9mm cartridge.

http://www.dansammo.com/nga.asp

It reminds me of my old "Blitz Action Trauma" (BAT) rounds. Good stuff in it's day...

Seems like the concept sprung legs, with the Cor Bon DXP ammunition...

Thoughts>?

[Fiery Red XIII]

Awfully light rounds, and from what I've read about all copper rounds, there are better options. MagTech is the company I asked about years ago w/their all copper rounds.

Red

[ULVER]

Awfully light rounds, and from what I've read about all copper rounds, there are better options. MagTech is the company I asked about years ago w/their all copper rounds.

Red

They are "light" in grain weight. However, considering S.A. is the car-jacking capital of the world, and the police shoot a whole hell lot of perps, they must work.

[alwilliam]

based on the old eliminator rounds and on thv...IMO a poor round over all.

[Attorney@War]

Their biggest problem is that the plastic nose caps, used to promote feed reliability in in autoloaders, fall off in the mag under recoil. With predictable results. The manufacturer's QC is questionable, at best. Apparently their ammo causes the majority of blown glocks in SA.

[Mwinter]

Ulver, are the caps on your rounds red in color? FYI there are black and blue versions...both are non-importable due to ATF regs and both are said to have greater effect than the red version.

I bought about 200rds of the red version on sale years ago. As aforementioned, QC is spotty. Several of the rounds would not feed, due to little extruded plastic 'boogers' sticking out of the nosecap. After a little bit of inspection and judicious whittling, they fed fine. The nosecaps would penetrate the cardboard IPSC targets I was using after detaching from the bullet in-flight, and never reliably in the same place. Overall accuracy was poor.

With the nosecap removed, the projectile looks an awful lot like the old Scorpion HPs....a 'HydraShok wadcutter' if you will. Recoil was light, and the round is pretty noisy compared to other +p JHPs I was shooting that day.

As far as it being the best anti-carjacker round in SA....I'd hafta see what their common options are. If it's FMJ or Sentry, then maybe the Sentry has a greater effect on target. I'll still take a bonded JHP from the good 'ol USA.

Now the Hirtenberger solid-copper expander EMB...esp. in 10mm...there's a foreign round I'd like to get to know.

[Attorney@War]

The South African Police have a choice of ammo: Ball, Ball or Ball. Its pretty poor quality stuff. As I understand it, and I'm not a cop, HPs are not permitted in duty pistols.

We don't have much of a choice of HPs here. I use 124gr +p Gold Dots. Thats about the best there is. We can sometimes get WWB 115gr, Federal HiShok and Winchester Supreme SXTs.

As a matter of interest, the .355 Sentry or Eliminators came in 60gr and 80gr as far as I can recall. They were distinguished by the different colour nose caps.