View Full Version : Anyone else seen this CRAZINESS!?! Serious Wildcat Neck Down
guru_I_aint
07-07-2008, 06:51
So, in my endless searches for strange crap online, I come across this gem.
http://www.realguns.com/archives/094.htm
Now, I'll admit, I kinda got a chuckle out of it at first but reading further into it, I was amazed it could even be done, even more when I realized that it actually could serve a purpose.
Please, if anyone has any opinions/experience/stuff to say about this round or a firearm that you think would be a good implementor of it, post it right here, I'd love to hear anything you guys (and ladies) got.
I once saw a photo someone had done up of a .50 BMG necked down to .17 cal.
It looked pretty funny.
Actually its not that uncommon. It has about the same case cap. as the 17 mach4 aka 17 rem fireball but its a rimmed case so it works great in the Martini Cadet rifles.
Forming brass is kinda tuff becouse 357 brass is not all that thick at the neck area like rifle brass is.
Boris Bush
07-07-2008, 14:55
H110 and a 10" bbl gatting 3309 fps!
Now will it work in a G22?
guru_I_aint
07-07-2008, 16:23
Basically, I think what he needs to do to work this cartridge in a semi-auto is get a very light recoil spring... something in the area of maybe 8-10 pounds but the other part to that is he's trying to push back stock weighted slides and all that jazz. .22lr kits come with lighter everything so they can properly cycle with the much lower powered round.
Keep in mind this cartridge has only around 2.7 ft/lbs of free recoil energy. Compare this to the approximate recoil energy of 7.1 ft/lbs from the standard .357 Sig round and you'll see why you have to change a lighten a lot-o-stuff up top to cycle this stinger reliably.
I hope he does and tries to market it to a conversion kit manufacturer. Anyone who doesn't see the practical applications of this round is very narrow minded but maybe it's just too hard to manufacturer reliable brass en masse. Maybe they could compromise and do it with 9mm brass or maybe even .38 Super, oooooooooo...
Jim Watson
07-07-2008, 16:38
I think he will have to take a lot of weight off the slide. Inertia of the slide plays a major part in recoil operation, the spring is mostly to return the gun to battery.
The .224 Boz (.22x10mm) in an STI had the top of the slide cut away to where a 1911 looked like the top end of a Beretta.
guru_I_aint
07-07-2008, 21:52
You know, now that I think about it, could you just do what CZ did with the kadet kit (like a half back slide, ala Desert Eagle style)? If so, then it could work, as half the slide weight would stay in place thus also adding a sort of compensator in the process. That might be the way to go, I couldn't even imagine how little felt recoil this thing would have using this method as well.
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