Knots [Archive] - Glock Talk

okie

08-02-2008, 12:29

Are you an expert at tying knots:headscratch: I am not for sure I can only tie one kinda knot and I don't even know what the hell it's called. I never was in the Boy Scouts is the reason:crying:

tbhracing

08-02-2008, 12:38

I am somewhat of an expert. What can I help you out on?

okie

08-02-2008, 12:43

I am somewhat of an expert. What can I help you out on?

I'm just wondering my friend, the identify this knot thread just got me to thinkin how I am not a knot tying expert and was wondering about everyone else. Just being nosy really:supergrin::rofl:

Soujurn

08-02-2008, 13:39

I was never a scout either, but I learned to tie several different knots when I worked as a marine carpenter. And more later when I was active in the Seattle Mountaineers climbing courses.
The timber hitch and the bowline were the first two I learned.

tbhracing

08-02-2008, 13:40

Like I have taught others- Pick up a 7-8 fot piece of rope, pick out the knots you want to know and tie them about 20+ times.

Did you see the website I posted?

WINGS

08-02-2008, 14:20

If you don't use them occasionally you forget how to tie them. I can still 3 strand back splice, eye splice and splice to chain but I have to get out my notes for reference if I haven't done one in a while.
Learn how to tie a bowline. One of the best knots to know.

NateHodge

08-02-2008, 14:24

I'm good at creating new knots. One's that can not be replicated or undone. Does that help?

El_Ron1

08-02-2008, 14:26

http://www.myairshoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/converse-jack-purcell-tidy-v3-red.jpg

WINGS

08-02-2008, 14:33

http://www.myairshoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/converse-jack-purcell-tidy-v3-red.jpg

Wow a Jack Purcell shoe still being produced. He was from a different era. I doubt if many here will remember his name.

TheVeryIdea

08-02-2008, 14:39

<== Was a deck seaman in the Navy.
<== Still only knows how to tie two knots: granny and square.

:pirates:

D25

08-02-2008, 15:07

Having your, and your wife's life literally suspended by the knots you tie makes you very good at tying them-
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk120/redleader25/honeycombs112.jpg

devildog2067

08-02-2008, 15:14

Yup. The first time you realize that you're 3 meters above the last bolt and your knot is coming loose, you get motivated real fast.

http://diablo.phys.northwestern.edu/~devildog/aig1.jpg

BAILIFF

08-02-2008, 15:15

I've been perfecting my balloon knot technique for years.

D25

08-02-2008, 15:22

Yup. The first time you realize that you're 3 meters above the last bolt and your knot is coming loose, you get motivated real fast.

http://diablo.phys.northwestern.edu/~devildog/aig1.jpg

Where is that!? The celing looks challenging.

HandyMan Hugh

08-02-2008, 15:24

Hiya Okie: Was a Boy Scout AND a sailor. What are ya lookin' to tie up?
Mebbe I can recommend a knot for the purpose. :wavey:

Zombie Steve

08-02-2008, 15:26

For me it's just a need-to-know thing. I can tie 7 or 8 types (not counting the ties I wear), but I don't think I could name any of them except the double surgeon's loop I tie for fly fishing.

blackjack

08-02-2008, 15:33

Here you go, Okie:

www.animatedknots.com

Everything you need to know is out there. Bring some rope to Tulsa the next time you come shooting and I will help on any you want to learn.

Bart

devildog2067

08-02-2008, 15:33

Where is that!? The celing looks challenging.

L'Aiguilette d'Argentière, in the Chamonix Valley, across from Mont Blanc in France. It actually was disappointingly easy on that side, the other side is a solid 5.10b or so though.

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34535985_8559.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34535986_9065.jpg

There's also a nice 5-pitch climb on the side facing Mont Blanc:

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34535988_9710.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/242052/n2420521_34535992_3804.jpg

tbhracing

08-02-2008, 15:34

FYI- The Bowline has gone the way of VHS. The Figure 8 knot is the new King. (atleast in the fire service)

D25

08-02-2008, 15:50

L'Aiguilette d'Argentière, in the Chamonix Valley, across from Mont Blanc in France. It actually was disappointingly easy on that side, the other side is a solid 5.10b or so though.

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34535985_8559.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34535986_9065.jpg

There's also a nice 5-pitch climb on the side facing Mont Blanc:

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34535988_9710.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/242052/n2420521_34535992_3804.jpg

Those are great pics. My wife and I have been slowing down with the sport climbing and getting more into ice and mountaineering, but that looks like a whole lot of fun.
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk120/redleader25/utah08051.jpg

KilgoreTrout

08-02-2008, 15:54

Wow a Jack Purcell shoe still being produced. He was from a different era. I doubt if many here will remember his name.

they still make normal purcells, i think, or they did three years ago. I have a real old pair in the closet I cant throw away.

cgwahl

08-02-2008, 15:55

I can tie a bowline and a fishing knot or two...but all the other ones I learned in Boy Scouts I have forgotten.

okie

08-02-2008, 16:48

Like I have taught others- Pick up a 7-8 fot piece of rope, pick out the knots you want to know and tie them about 20+ times.

Did you see the website I posted?

I didn't check it out my friend I need to:cool::wavey:

okie

08-02-2008, 16:51

Hiya Okie: Was a Boy Scout AND a sailor. What are ya lookin' to tie up?
Mebbe I can recommend a knot for the purpose. :wavey:When tying down a load in my pickup I will always just n rig something:crying:

okie

08-02-2008, 16:52

Here you go, Okie:

www.animatedknots.com

Everything you need to know is out there. Bring some rope to Tulsa the next time you come shooting and I will help on any you want to learn.

BartVery kool Bart, thanks so much:thumbsup::wavey:

okie

08-02-2008, 16:54

Devildog I hope this doesn't offend ya, but your crazy:a;ex::tongueout:

jhoagland

08-02-2008, 16:59

I love tying knots!! You can buy a book for cheap that will cover a bunch of the simple knots. Pic up a copy of Mcnally's "Knots, rigs and leaders and how to use them" Made for fishermen world wide. You can apply those knots to other every day things.

devildog2067

08-03-2008, 01:36

Those are great pics. My wife and I have been slowing down with the sport climbing and getting more into ice and mountaineering, but that looks like a whole lot of fun.

Cool! Yeah, I've never been a sport climber either--back home I'm either gym or trad, because there's not a whole lot of bolted stuff close to Chicago. I have admit, though, that I'm getting spoiled by this whole sport thing--5 minute approaches, little cost, and all the lines already laid out. The Chamonix valley is considered to be the birthplace of sport climbing, and the amount of bolted limestone out here is incredible. I'm off to climb another one right now. :)

devildog2067

08-04-2008, 10:20

Devildog I hope this doesn't offend ya, but your crazy

Yeah, probably. :)

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34576545_3590.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34576540_1974.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34576547_4256.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34577361_376.jpg

Les Vuardes, in Le Vallée de l'Arve.

mhill

08-04-2008, 10:38

I try to tie very few knots but I tie them very well. In order of usefulness below.

bowline.
Square.
figure eight.
Clove hitch.
fishermans

Specialty for climbing.
Water knot
Munter Hitch
Double figure eight

PS: Wanna see my rack......

http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/4/380694-largest_Iphone_044.jpg

I have more now but that's most of it.

Let's go climbing sometime.

mhill

08-04-2008, 10:42

devildog2067

08-04-2008, 10:44

What kind of rock is that? Looks like a fun climb.

But I don't believe in bolts.... ;)

It's limestone, and EVERYTHING in France is bolted. Try and place some protection and you learn why. I placed a backup cam last night in a crack behind a big flake, took a fall on it--and the flake came off and almost killed my belayer. I'm more of a trad climber too but if it's a choice between bolts or dying, I choose bolts. :) Besides, it means a lot less gear to carry.

That's a nice collection of cams. If you're ever looking for gear, www.spadout.com is run by a friend of mine. I just ordered a set of micronuts and a gri-gri for $100.

havensal

08-04-2008, 10:48

<------ Not an expert but can come up with something that will work for any application I have faced so far. :wavey:

Da-Squad

08-04-2008, 11:22

<-----used to be able to tie quite a few,,,, now I have to concentrate on tying my shoes.:supergrin:

mhill

08-04-2008, 12:11

It's limestone, and EVERYTHING in France is bolted. Try and place some protection and you learn why. I placed a backup cam last night in a crack behind a big flake, took a fall on it--and the flake came off and almost killed my belayer. I'm more of a trad climber too but if it's a choice between bolts or dying, I choose bolts. :) Besides, it means a lot less gear to carry.

That's a nice collection of cams. If you're ever looking for gear, www.spadout.com is run by a friend of mine. I just ordered a set of micronuts and a gri-gri for $100.

I check spadout once in a while.

You didn't mention that it was limestone. I'll leave me rack in the car and clip the bolts. Or I might look around for some nice sandstone or granite. I've thought maybe that was limestone. I've never climbed any limestone that I liked yet. I hate choss.

PS: Wear a helmet when you climb that stuff!!!! :shocked:

Da-Squad

08-04-2008, 13:39

:laughabove: This is "knot" what there talking about.:supergrin:

sdsnet

08-04-2008, 13:54

StuntPilot

08-04-2008, 14:03

http://www.animatedknots.com/

Tim Converse

08-04-2008, 14:37

The three knots I use the most for rigging etc. are the bowline and bowline on a bite and then one that I don't remember the name of. It is a bowline type knot (I think) where you take the slack up in the center of a rope and then tie a knot using loops. It makes a loop in the center of a line that can be used as a pulley to tighten lines down with half hitches at the end.
The rope away from the ends is the bight. The knot you are describing sounds like a trucker's hitch. That is another good knot to know. Maybe not a knot not to know.

kirgi08

08-04-2008, 15:29

<<<Can tie knots/most any I would ever need.

<<<Youse all are KA-RAZZY.

<<<Don't like heights,Thought I would get over it by jumpin outta perfectly good airplanes.
<<<WAS WRONG.'08.:psycho:

HandyMan Hugh

08-05-2008, 17:33

Hiya Okie: Sorry I didn't get back to ya sooner, been out sick.
If there's something to tie on to I like to use a round turn and two half hitches or a clove hitch on the first end. Then pass the rope over the load to the opposite corner and tie off with a Tautline hitch. That way if the load shifts and loosens the tie downs I can easily snug it up without havein to re-tie the end. :wavey:

devildog2067

08-06-2008, 06:14

PS: Wear a helmet when you climb that stuff!!!! :shocked:

Yeah, I know...
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v298/49/116/2420521/n2420521_34588425_3027.jpg

I can be a little forgetful with the helmet if I'm leading a single pitch, but if I'm seconding I never forget. There's a lot of rockfall in this valley.