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jolt8me
08-04-2008, 05:59
This is what I have now.
Dell dimension 8200
1.7ghz pentium 400mhz fsb
Nvidia geoforce 2 mx with 4x agp
1024 mb's ram

heres what I want. I play some older games like operation flashpoint and spring and do some graphics work. So I dont need a really high end video card, at this point im just want to be able to play things a lot smoother with a bit more eye candy.

Heres what I have been looking at http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1458679&CatId=318

yes/no or is there something better around the same price?

IndyGunFreak
08-04-2008, 06:57
I had that card for a while, I was happy w/ it. I upgraded to a 512mb Version. I'd go w/ the 512mb version, as it won't be that much more expensive.

I've been really happy w/ this card..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143102

I think either are a good choice though...

IGF

NetNinja
08-05-2008, 14:28
I know you may not have the money for a new machine but consider getting yourself a PCI express motherboard.

Of course that means memory, new processor and graphics card.
Well worth the money.

OR if you want to stay in the AGP relm try and buy another replacement motherboard. When mine blew out I ran all over the place and online tryng to get a replacement one and was forced into the PCI express route.

jolt8me
08-05-2008, 21:50
I know you may not have the money for a new machine but consider getting yourself a PCI express motherboard.

Of course that means memory, new processor and graphics card.
Well worth the money.

OR if you want to stay in the AGP relm try and buy another replacement motherboard. When mine blew out I ran all over the place and online tryng to get a replacement one and was forced into the PCI express route.



I was thinking about that but the case I have is a dell and you cant fit another motherboard into it.

jolt8me
08-05-2008, 21:52
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1723243&CatId=318
I was also looking at this one? Which is better, this one or the one in the first post?

NetNinja
08-06-2008, 07:11
Indygunfreak's suggestion was a good one.

Everyone has thier preferences.

I am not a fan of ATI cards, to each his own.

This one will suit you well.
Not to expensive and 256MB of ram.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150107

If you need to replace the case you should be able to move everything from that restricted Dell case into a new one without any problems.

I absolutely love this case! I have one and as your computer needs grow (pcie) you can slide in newer components.

The cooling in this case is very nice, comes with nice fans. Great for people who run dual graphics cards or overclock thier CPU's.

In fact I will replace an older case with this lighter one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119142

IndyGunFreak
08-06-2008, 07:21
Agreed, I hate ATI... Probably because its freakin ridiculous to get working w/ Linux, because they never bothered me much w/ Windows.

I'd go with any of the Nvidia cards in this thread.

IGF

IndyGunFreak
08-06-2008, 08:41
Indygunfreak's suggestion was a good one.

Everyone has thier preferences.

I am not a fan of ATI cards, to each his own.

This one will suit you well.
Not to expensive and 256MB of ram.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150107

If you need to replace the case you should be able to move everything from that restricted Dell case into a new one without any problems.

I absolutely love this case! I have one and as your computer needs grow (pcie) you can slide in newer components.

The cooling in this case is very nice, comes with nice fans. Great for people who run dual graphics cards or overclock thier CPU's.

In fact I will replace an older case with this lighter one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119142

Doesn't Dell us some kind of funky, proprietary power supply also? I seem to remember reading this.

I'd rebuild the PC completely. Keep what you believe you can use on the new PC(Probably DVD drive, and maybe Hard drive) and build from there.

IGF

theleafybug
08-06-2008, 10:31
Don't try to completely rebuild a Dell... It really isn't worth it.
If you aren't thinking about all the upgrades, the 512 version of that card is probably good.
If you are thinking about getting a new mobo/cpu/ram/video card/psu... that's a new computer. Getting a decent mobo with PCI-e and a new cpu and ram is probably going to cost you a couple hundred bucks. If you are seriously thinking about spending this much, buy a new computer.
Nowadays off-the-shelf computers are getting cheap. And many of them come with a PCI-e slot. Grab yourself a new computer - you may be able to find one that comes with a decent video card too for a good price.

IF you are buying a new video card for a PCI-e slot, I recommend nVidia. There's nothing wrong with ATI, they're good cards. nVidia is just way easier to upgrade (same software works with all the cards).



Also, get the card from a local retailer when it is on sale and MAKE SURE YOU BUY BFG! BFG cards come with a lifetime warranty. Sooo... if you ever want to upgrade again in the future, just take the card back to the store and exchange it for the upgraded card.

Orkinman
08-06-2008, 11:26
Just an FYI. Make sure your motherboard can handle an 8X AGP card. I screwed this one up myself and wound up eating the cost of a card. Unless it's a recent AGP board or a PCI Express board it's a real puzzle to find out what you can support.

I tried to put an 8X card on a board that was 2x to 4x and even though the card should have been able to slow down and limit itself to 4x it just didn't boot. There are voltage differences that can make this happen.

I'm with whoever said it's time for a new computer.

jolt8me
08-06-2008, 14:49
Just an FYI. Make sure your motherboard can handle an 8X AGP card. I screwed this one up myself and wound up eating the cost of a card. Unless it's a recent AGP board or a PCI Express board it's a real puzzle to find out what you can support.

I tried to put an 8X card on a board that was 2x to 4x and even though the card should have been able to slow down and limit itself to 4x it just didn't boot. There are voltage differences that can make this happen.

I'm with whoever said it's time for a new computer.

Thanks for the heads up on this issue. I started reading about it and seems that most video cards problems with sticking an 8x into a 4x or lower agp slot is voltage irregularities. I am trying to figure out how many volts goes to the agp slot on my motherboard but its not as easy to figure out as you would think.

would this be it?
AGP bus protocols
4x/2x modes at 1.5 V

g29andy
08-06-2008, 15:20
I have a Dimension 8300, 3ghz P4, 3GB RAM. Running a GeForce 7600GS 256MB card, does pretty good.