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USMCsilver
08-22-2008, 20:11
Are these folks treadin' water the whole time while on the "court"?

GlockOpsFool
08-22-2008, 20:29
Yes. They aren't allowed to touch bottom at any time during play.

moeman
08-22-2008, 20:38
awesome sport

players have to be able to be fully amberdextrious throwing and catching the ball w/ either hand, be able to wrestle for position against a guy that averages 6'4" 240 and swim like hell.

Some of the best athletes in the world.

JMag
08-22-2008, 20:44
Now both the U.S. men and women will be going for the gold!

Mnukedude
08-22-2008, 20:53
Yes. They aren't allowed to touch bottom at any time during play.

Now THAT is a cardio workout!

USMCsilver
08-22-2008, 20:58
Yes. They aren't allowed to touch bottom at any time during play.

Wow! I think that would give a Coastie rescue swimmer a run for the money!

Superb feats of endurance. :faint:

CAcop
08-22-2008, 21:23
The goalie are where it's really at when it comes to treading water. When I played our goalies could get out of the water to their suits and hold it. I could hold it for a few seconds but nothing like our goalies. The treading was easy, it's the constant sprinting. Then there is the fighting going on under the water. I learned quickly that knees to the tailbone tend to get people to let go of you and elbows to the throat take them out of the game.

Ballistic40
08-22-2008, 21:38
Phelps could kick all their *****e$ at the same time

MooseJaw
08-22-2008, 21:55
I prefer watching Synchronized Swimming.. :whistling:

Blinky
08-22-2008, 21:57
I was watching it at work with a buddy of mine. We both agreed that it is probably the hardest team sport in the Olympics.

Bogey
08-22-2008, 22:05
I believe I heard them say the pool is 10 feet deep.

I'd die.

NYC Drew
08-22-2008, 22:31
I used to play ( a little bit) and I used to be a lifeguard.

My lifeguard training was actually HARDER than WP training - in my pea brain.

And when I decided I wanted to be cool, and learn how to play B-ball...oh man I sucked at that game so bad...

Altaris
08-23-2008, 00:10
No way in hell could I do it.

Here is a nice ESPN article I just read yesterday on water polo.....


http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=3545881


BEIJING -- When playing at the 2-meter line in water polo, what happens beneath the surface stays beneath the surface.

If you're driving your knuckles into the other guy's ribs, do it with a straight face. Kneeing him in the kidney? Try to keep your hands busy so no one suspects. Even if the scrum gets worse than that, betray no emotion.

And it can get worse than that.

"I've had my eyes gouged, [testicles] grabbed, gotten stitches," American center Ryan Bailey said. "There's tons of stuff that happens."

You even hear about some centers who have been the recipients of uninvited prostate checkups. (Think Chevy Chase singing "Mooooon Riverrrrr" in "Fletch.")

That's Olympic water polo -- a fierce sport above the water line and an international street fight below it. The key is to pretend none of it bothers you -- because once you start retaliating or losing your cool, that's when the refs take notice. A good center comes with the face of a poker player and the hands of a felon.

For the first time in years, the Americans are an Olympic water polo force, advancing to the semifinals in men's play and winning the silver medal in women's play. To get this far, they've had to play with skill, teamwork and confidence. A little underwater brutality hasn't hurt, either. It's part of the sport -- just don't get caught.

The officials can't call what they can't see, and what they can't see is enough to make a Marine cringe.

Water polo is a great sport with an odd corporeal obsession. Maybe it's all the time spent in those small suits. You attend a U.S. practice, and coach Terry Schroeder is bare-chested … indoors. Assistant coach Robert Lynn is wearing neither shirt nor pants -- he's walking the deck with whistle and clipboard in a Speedo bikini.

Once the ball is in play, these Olympians are as physical as boxers, wrestlers and martial artists. Except they're doing it while treading water. Try mugging someone while working furiously to keep your head above the surface.
The roughest stuff happens at the positions of center and center defender, the two players who maul each other at the 2-meter line in front of the goal. Think of the most physical post play allowed in basketball, then multiply it to the verge of assault and battery.

"You have to be a sponge for punishment," Lynn said.

Many want to play center. Not a lot of them last, Schroeder said. They weed themselves out based largely on their ability to dish out and endure punishment.

"You really need to be able to take a beating," said Schroeder, a center himself during his playing days. "You're getting hit over the head with a 2-by-4, and you still have to stay focused on the task at hand, which is directing the offense.

"It's pretty brutal in there, and there's a lot the referees don't see."

That is the hidden art of playing center or center defender. You have to be able to get away with … well, not outright murder, but at least a little mayhem.

Bailey, who has played professionally for years in Europe, is articulate and engaging. He's also 6-foot-6 and a sculpted 245 pounds, and would not look at all out of place in an NFL locker room. His 5 o'clock shadow is in full effect by noon.

In other words, he's perfect for the job of playing center -- with one flaw. When play gets dirty, his face gets red and gives him away.

"I'm a big guy, and I like to be physical in there," he said. "It's a one-on-one battle. It's really not fun a lot of the time, but it's my job. I just try to keep a straight face and hope it doesn't turn red."

You have to be a con man, using every trick -- and body part -- at your disposal. If you've taken a cheap shot, you might try to subtly deliver an elbow to the nose while swimming to the other end. If you get a chance to grab an opponent's hand, try to break a finger -- especially a thumb. That reduces his ability to catch, pass or shoot the ball.

Lynn recalled a Hungarian player who used to stick his foot in the suits of opposing centers -- Schroeder among them. Lynn said Schroeder even tried taping his suit to his body to keep the Hun's foot out, to no avail.
Eventually, Lynn said, a Croatian applied a shot to the guy's jewels and put him in his place.

As a center defender, Lynn sometimes approached his work like a hockey goon -- even referencing Marty McSorley, Wayne Gretzky's longtime enforcer sidekick. Lynn was there to play water polo until someone took a cheap shot at him or one of his teammates.

"As long as it's clean, I'm playing clean," he said. "If someone starts trying some stuff, watch out. It's on.

"First time, let me move your ear guard. Next time, I'm breaking your ear. Maybe knuckles in the eye, see if they panic. When it gets bad is when people try to take the eyes out. That wakes you up, when someone does that to one of your teammates. Then, when you get your chance, you take your shot and send that guy to the hospital, too."

Speaking of the hospital: American backup center J.W. Krumpholz found out what international water polo is all about at age 13.

That's when the Californian found himself in a Serbian emergency room, where a doctor with a cigarette dangling from her lips examined his gruesomely gashed left eye. He took stitches to the inside and outside of his eyelid, and nearly had a detached retina.

That was seven years ago. Today, Krumpholz can endure and inflict punishment like a seasoned veteran.

"That's why we play center," he said. "It's awesome."

It's all fun and games at water polo until someone loses an eye. Or gets a foot in the suit.

passive101
08-23-2008, 00:31
I prefer watching Synchronized Swimming.. :whistling:

+1. That is the only sport that made me wish I had a HD tv :wow:

KenBGlock19
08-23-2008, 02:54
I used to play waterpolo in HS - it was insane. I lost 45 lbs in one season and was eating like a hoss. If you think football is hard, take a dip in the pool for a waterpolo game. Nuts.



Loved every minute of it :cool:

jakemccoy
08-23-2008, 03:08
Water polo is for the athletes who suck at basketball, football, baseball, soccer or hockey.





















Just kidding, I've got much respect for those guys. However, I don't subscribe to the idea of one sport being tougher than the other. Each sport is as tough as the athletes make it. For example, it's hard to argue somebody is much tougher than a soccer halfback who plays an entire NCAA D1 Championship soccer game in 97 degree heat. Each sport has got its own obstacles.

MrMurphy
08-23-2008, 03:19
Hell I tried out for it in high school and discovered they were all insane.

On the rough play, most of the guys during actual games said they wore 3 or 4 Speedos because the most common tactic to distract the enemy players was to rip their speedo off. (Or at least try).

moeman
08-23-2008, 19:12
Phelps could kick all their *****e$ at the same time


No way! Most every mega-swimmer is either too much a wussie or doesn't have the hand to eye coordination to be a great water polo player.

Deanster
08-23-2008, 19:27
Phelps in water polo would be like taking your Ferrari to a demolition derby.

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