15+1 in my Glock... How do you guys do this?

[cgm387]

When I load a magazine up with 15 bullets and try to insert the magazine into my 19; the magazine does not click into place. If I feed one manually into the chamber (leaving 14 in the magazine) the magazine clicks and locks into place.

Aren't you supposed to have 15 in a magazine and one in the chamber? Or is it 14+1 in the chamber?

Thanks.

[PAGunner]

When I load a magazine up with 15 bullets and try to insert the magazine into my 19; the magazine does not click into place. If I feed one manually into the chamber (leaving 14 in the magazine) the magazine clicks and locks into place.

Aren't you supposed to have 15 in a magazine and one in the chamber? Or is it 14+1 in the chamber?

Thanks.

You can put 15+1 in, I do, certainly OK to carry that way, but 14+1 isn't bad either if you are having a difficult time getting the magazine to seat properly. The newer mags have to be pushed a bit with some force to get them to seat, but thats normal.

[Keoking]

It depends on the model, on your magazine, and even on your specific gun. Some models are legendary for being tough to load a full magazine on a closed slide (G30). I have read numerous threads with all sorts of knowledge (both useful and useless).

The general consensus is that you should fully load your mags, and then let them sit to "break in". This works like a charm for some people, but not everyone. From a readiness standpoint, I figure that every loose magazine should be loaded anyways, so you kill 2 birds with one stone.

[cgm387]

You can put 15+1 in, I do, certainly OK to carry that way, but 14+1 isn't bad either if you are having a difficult time getting the magazine to seat properly. The newer mags have to be pushed a bit with some force to get them to seat, but thats normal.

Should I buy two G17 magazines if I want to do 15+1 easily? I'm afraid to push my new magazines hard into the butt of the gun.

[PAGunner]

Should I buy two G17 magazines if I want to do 15+1 easily? I'm afraid to push my new magazines hard into the butt of the gun.

Oh, don't worry about that. But the G17 mags if you wan't, but its not necessary. Its funny, when I seat my magazine, I notice very small dents in the top round in the magazine when I take it out, but it hasn't caused any problems and I don't expect it to.

If you really really feel uncomfortable doing it, just keep 14 in the magazine. My father was always paranoid about wearing out the mag springs (he is very frugal), so he only used to keep 13 in his G19, he wasn't worried about the loss of capacity, I wouldn't be either.

Those mags are tough, don't worry about hurting anything.

[cgm387]

Yeah... Loading 15 into the magazine is not a problem for me. It's jamming the full magazine into the gun; I don't hear a click. Unless I manually feed one of those 15 bullets in there, the magazine won't snap into place.

[DrMaxit]

You're the guy that just posted about "send pictures of you're G19" ect ect. Yeah, its new, its tight. JAM it in there as hard as you can, trust me, it'll go, and you wont hurt anything. Hell some mags when new are hard to even FIT 15 rds in there, much less put them in the gun. So quit girly footin' around and jam it in there, its fine, trust us.

--Chuck

[cgm387]

You're the guy that just posted about "send pictures of you're G19" ect ect. Yeah, its new, its tight. JAM it in there as hard as you can, trust me, it'll go, and you wont hurt anything. Hell some mags when new are hard to even FIT 15 rds in there, much less put them in the gun. So quit girly footin' around and jam it in there, its fine, trust us.

--Chuck

Just bang the magazine in there? I won't break any internals in the gun frame?

[D-GLOCK17]

Should I buy two G17 magazines if I want to do 15+1 easily? I'm afraid to push my new magazines hard into the butt of the gun.

In my experience, even well used Glock mags when full need to be firmly inserted. It is normal. You probably should just push a little harder. Empty mags and full mags inserted with the slide locked open go inside the mag well almost effortlessly. Are your mags and Glock brand new. Some have suggested leaving the mags fully loaded and allowing the mags springs to soften. ((Well, not soften but kind of get broken in)).

[Agent6-3/8]

Maybe I'm jsut stronger than I think, but I've never had an issue locking a full mag in place in my G19. I've never had a problem loading the mag either.

:dunno:


You won't kill anything by inserting the mag with a bit of aggression.

[DrMaxit]

Just bang the magazine in there? I won't break any internals in the gun frame?

yeah, the worst thing it might do, is dent a case, but it wont even do that. Its just that your spring is so tight being new. Go try it, you wont hurt the mag or any internals, its designed to be busted around in such a manor. Go try it, seriously.

--Chuck

[cgm387]

Yeah Glock is new. I've left the two magazines loaded completely w/ 15 hollows each. I'm going to give it some aggression, but a little hesitant to JAM it up in there.

[DrMaxit]

Yeah Glock is new. I've left the two magazines loaded completely w/ 15 hollows each. I'm going to give it some aggression, but a little hesitant to JAM it up in there.


Boy am I gonna have go over there and do it for you? LMAO jk man, seriously, put the mag in about half way, and JAM it in there. That doesn't work put it in until it hits the stop, and force it together. Nothing wrong with your pistol, it needs to be broken in, doing this will help.

--Chuck

[PAGunner]

Unless I manually feed one of those 15 bullets in there, the magazine won't snap into place.

Never, EVER manually feed a bullet into the chamber, you can ruin your extractor and get FTEs, very bad on a carry gun. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.

[WayaX]

Maybe I'm jsut stronger than I think, but I've never had an issue locking a full mag in place in my G19. I've never had a problem loading the mag either.

:dunno:


You won't kill anything by inserting the mag with a bit of aggression.

It's the West Virginian water. I've never had any trouble loading a full GLOCK 20/26/36 magazine in their respective gun.

[darktide]

Bang that **** in there! a glock is a tool... don't baby it, don't be gentle...

I had the exact problem with my G30--- loading a 10stack on a closed slide was hard... until i started slamming that mag home... and keeping my hoarde of magazines full...

No dented cases, no damage on the gun... you're all good...

oh... in case it wasn't clear... BANG THAT MAG HOME---

[DrMaxit]

Bang that **** in there! a glock is a tool... don't baby it, don't be gentle...

I had the exact problem with my G30--- loading a 10stack on a closed slide was hard... until i started slamming that mag home... and keeping my hoarde of magazines full...

No dented cases, no damage on the gun... you're all good...

oh... in case it wasn't clear... BANG THAT MAG HOME---

Effin THANK YOU. Maybe between the two of us we can get this through his head. He's treating it like a 1911 or something :rofl:

--chuck

[ab4ka]

I got two new mags today for my G26 with Glock +2 extensions on them, and getting them loaded was a bear, and getting them shoved in the gun was a fight, but it went. Same thing happened to me last time, and after they sit loaded for a little bit they load just fine.

The only time you want to worry about jamming mags in is when you are using extended magazines (i.e. G17 mags in a G26) as you can mess up the notch where the mag release locks it.

[Civitas]

I have to disagree with the consensus here. You should not jam the mag in. It's not that you would hurt anything, but if the mag is that hard to insert, you don't want to be depending on that in an emergency. I would suggest downloading the mag by 1 round. I think your gun will be more reliable that way. That reliability is more valuable than that one extra round.

And DO NOT manually load a round. To get 14+1, put a couple of rounds in the mag, insert the mag and chamber a round, take the mag out and load up to 14. Then insert the mag again. That's the easiest way to do it.

[darktide]

I have to disagree with the consensus here. You should not jam the mag in. It's not that you would hurt anything, but if the mag is that hard to insert, you don't want to be depending on that in an emergency. I would suggest downloading the mag by 1 round. I think your gun will be more reliable that way.



so... i have over 15k error-free rounds that have to disagree with you...

[PAGunner]

I have to disagree with the consensus here. You should not jam the mag in. It's not that you would hurt anything, but if the mag is that hard to insert, you don't want to be depending on that in an emergency. I would suggest downloading the mag by 1 round. I think your gun will be more reliable that way.
And DO NOT manually load a round. To get 14+1, put a couple of rounds in the mag, insert the mag and chamber a round, take the mag out and load up to 14. Then insert the mag again. That's the easiest way to do it.

I agree with everything you said, except I'll add a caveat you may or may not agree with. If your Glock performs reliably on the range after hundreds, if not thousands of rounds and your carry ammo performs flawlessly, while "jamming" the 15+1 into your gun, you shouldn't worry about it not working when the SHTF. I kinda worried about the same thing when I first got my Glock, till I started putting rounds through it with 15+1 jammed into it and I've never had my Glock malfunction (I have over 1,000 rounds through it so far).

[M4inCA]

Bang that **** in there! a glock is a tool... don't baby it, don't be gentle...

I had the exact problem with my G30--- loading a 10stack on a closed slide was hard... until i started slamming that mag home... and keeping my hoarde of magazines full...

No dented cases, no damage on the gun... you're all good...

oh... in case it wasn't clear... BANG THAT MAG HOME---

fvk yea....

Bang that ish like a 17yo highschool whore!!!!

Slam that ish home, rack dat slide, drop dat mag, holster dat weapon, top off dat mag and slam that ish home again...

-M4 has been drinkin on a Friday night!!!

[Civitas]

so... i have over 15k error-free rounds that have to disagree with you...
If you have shot 15 k rounds from a fully loaded mag, I doubt it is still that hard to insert. :supergrin:

[Civitas]

I agree with everything you said, except I'll add a caveat you may or may not agree with. If your Glock performs reliably on the range after hundreds, if not thousands of rounds and your carry ammo performs flawlessly, while "jamming" the 15+1 into your gun, you shouldn't worry about it not working when the SHTF. I kinda worried about the same thing when I first got my Glock, till I started putting rounds through it with 15+1 jammed into it and I've never had my Glock malfunction (I have over 1,000 rounds through it so far).
As said above, I don't think you would have to jam it in after firing thousands of rounds.... so I guess I would agree with your caveat. But I was not thinking about the gun not working. I meant that if it's hard to insert, the shooter may end up not fully inserting a mag in an emergency SHTF situation. You aren't going to be listening for a "click" when the zombies are rushing you. :supergrin: So I shouldn't have said the gun would be more reliable with a downloaded mag... I should have said the shooter would be more reliable.

[darktide]

but that's why you BANG IT.... screw "listening for a click"...

SHoot some IDPA, IPSC, or USPSA... you need the full 10 rounds...

so you need to BANG THE DAMN MAG IN.... damn...

[DrMaxit]

fvk yea....

Bang that ish like a 17yo highschool whore!!!!

-M4 has been drinkin on a Friday night!!!

Mah Nucka, you ain't the ONLY cuz on dis block been drankin'....

---Chuck

[PopGlock]

Should I buy two G17 magazines if I want to do 15+1 easily? I'm afraid to push my new magazines hard into the butt of the gun.


No, man... theres no need for G17 mags, Don't be afraid, Shuv them ******s in there (It'll go, I promise) there just stubborn at first... :wavey:

[PopGlock]

Boy am I gonna have go over there and do it for you? LMAO jk man, seriously, put the mag in about half way, and JAM it in there. That doesn't work put it in until it hits the stop, and force it together. Nothing wrong with your pistol, it needs to be broken in, doing this will help.

--Chuck

LOL +1.

[tbhracing]

I load my 15 round mags light to give the springs some space. I just go 13 rounds each.

[carbofan21]

where's the guy with the mallet on youtube when you need him?

[CableRouter]

I wouldn't worry too much about it being an issue when SHTF. If you are trying to seat a magazine under a chambered round, you obviously aren't in immediate danger or you would have fired that chambered round before reloading. And if you weren't in immediate danger, you'd have plenty of time to worry about the seating. :)

Personally, I just went with learning to seat my magazines with a bit of force, even from slide lock. The last thing I want during a critical situation is to risk half seating a magazine and watching it fall out on the ground when I go for the trigger.

[Captains1911]

Yeah... Loading 15 into the magazine is not a problem for me. It's jamming the full magazine into the gun; I don't hear a click. Unless I manually feed one of those 15 bullets in there, the magazine won't snap into place.

You should never manually load a round into the chamber, it can damage the extractor when you close the slide.

[INJoker]

All I have to say is what others have already pointed out...

It's a GLOCK! Slam that **** home!

[txgunguy]

Yeah sometimes they are about as tight as a chinese midget.. just shove the magazine in there

[G19freak]

Bend her over and drive it home---no wait---different thought.


Same principal.

[PAGunner]

I load my 15 round mags light to give the springs some space. I just go 13 rounds each.

In the hood they call that "letting the bullets breathe"

[bluesea]

Seriously, all that's happening is the top round is compressing the mag spring about .25" as it butts into the breech block. I find it hard to believe that the Glock magazine, given its stated capacity, is not designed to accommodate this as a matter of course. Many other pistol designs have this same condition.

If no one is shooting at you, or if you are not practicing mag changes on a closed slide, simply use the heel of your palm to slowly but firmly press the full magazine in till it clicks into place.