View Full Version : Glock 26 - Anyone ever going to make a steel recoil rod?
passive101
08-23-2008, 17:37
With all this talk about the recoil rods I have to admit I would like having a steel one better then plastic.
Any companies ever going to make one and have just a strong spring to put in it?
I already had to have glock send me a new spring because mine was warped and bending to much where they come together.
GlocksterPaulie
08-23-2008, 17:38
I use Wolff guide rod/springs in mine.
Paulie
tampashooters
08-23-2008, 17:39
Why? No need for the ones that are already on the market.
passive101
08-23-2008, 17:42
I did not know they existed! I thought all the baby glocks had to use the 2 piece plastic ones from glock
Where can I order a stainless steel guide rod? Can I get springs that are the same as the stock one as I have had zero problems with mine?
GlocksterPaulie
08-23-2008, 17:44
I use the Wolff rod with the stock spring weight.
Paulie
passive101
08-23-2008, 17:58
I went to topglock.com and I see springs for a glock 26, but I do not see any rods either captive or non captive that will fit it.
I'd rather have the non captive one so I don't have to worry about any other parts ever.
LockingBlock
08-23-2008, 18:05
+1
I looked a couple weeks back for my G30 and couldn't find any. I only have 500 rounds through my G30 and the back cap of my recoil spring wabbles like crazy. I know it wasn't that loose when I bought the gun.
9mm Luger
08-23-2008, 18:08
Found one for you at the GlockStore.com...
http://glockstore.com/pgroup_descrip/7_Parts+%26amp%3B+Accessories/2139_Stainless+Steel+Guide+Rod+w+Dual+Spring/?return=%3ftpl%3Dindex%26category_id%3D7%26_Parts%2B%26amp%3B%2BAccessories%2F
fatboy97
08-23-2008, 18:11
With all this talk about the recoil rods I have to admit I would like having a steel one better then plastic.
What talk???
passive101
08-23-2008, 18:11
That is not a one piece and will have the same problems as a stock one ans possibly more as it looks like one end twists on?
passive101
08-23-2008, 18:12
What talk???
The other thread and the fact that I had to replace mine in just under 1000 rds. Glock told me mine was bad.
Los Suenos
08-23-2008, 18:15
These are the best. 18# should be perfect for your 26. They look better too.
http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/GlockNF.html#G26
9mm Luger
08-23-2008, 18:17
That is not a one piece and will have the same problems as a stock one ans possibly more as it looks like one end twists on?
Yes I know you wanted a one piece, and your right they are hard to find I checked about a half dozen sites and that's all I could find.
I am surprised you are having troubles with yours, I have a 26 and have had no trouble at all.
fatboy97
08-23-2008, 18:23
The other thread and the fact that I had to replace mine in just under 1000 rds. Glock told me mine was bad.
I just went back 10 pages and found two threads... one of which was about a stainless guide rod failure. I've never had one issue with any part on any of my three Glock's... I guess if you want to spend your money on something that has not been an issue in any of your gun, you go right ahead. :rofl:
BigRed82
08-23-2008, 18:26
Hey Passive,
Here you go: http://gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/GlockNF.html#G26Guides
Wolff makes great guide rods. I have one of theirs in my G19. I'll eventually get around to putting one of these into my G26.
BigRed82
08-23-2008, 18:29
I guess if you want to spend your money on something that has not been an issue in any of your gun, you go right ahead. :rofl:
Reading comprehension. He said he had a part failure on his guide rod in the first 1000 rounds. It is not a secret that the baby glocks have had more reliability issues with their guide rods than the other Glock models. Any amount of time spent on this and other gun forums will provide enough examples to know that it happens. It doesn't happen all the time, but it is known that baby glocks require more maintenance and regular guide rod replacement than the other models.
Brian Lee
08-23-2008, 18:42
Watch out for Top Glock. They'll say they have it in stock when it really isn't and then screw you on delivery. Read the Smart Shopper threads about them.
BManoftheyear
08-23-2008, 19:00
If you don't mind me asking what is the point of a steel rod?
I know mine has a plastic one I just dont see or understand the need for a metal one.Is it that you just prefer the metal over the plastic ones?I can understand that if that is the deal since steel should be alot stronger then the plastic but why would one of those rods break anyways
passive101
08-23-2008, 19:04
What does an extra power spring do?
Fire_Medic
08-23-2008, 19:08
Here you go passive, check this one out.
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=4065
:thumbsup:
Brian Lee
08-23-2008, 19:17
If you don't mind me asking what is the point of a steel rod?
I know mine has a plastic one I just dont see or understand the need for a metal one.Is it that you just prefer the metal over the plastic ones?I can understand that if that is the deal since steel should be alot stronger then the plastic but why would one of those rods break anyways
Actually I think the best reason for switching rods is to get a tungsten one, and not steel, so the added weight in front can help reduce muzzle flip. Also, with a non-captive type you can easily experiment with different spring weights, which is more of an issue with some calibers than others, depending on how much variation there is in the kinds of loads you shoot from one occasion to the next. You can use different spring weights for different loads, instead of going the one-size-fits-all approach. 10MM loads for example, vary from the strongest to the weakest by quite a lot. Not all calibers have so much variety in ammo choice.
But I feel compelled to admit that actually, the plastic one rarely breaks, even thought I've been arguing in favor of metal in another thread. Plastic is sensitive to weakening under extreme heat, but most people don't rapid fire enough shots quickly enough for that to be an issue. Plastic is more sensitive to being installed incorrectly, and breaking because of that, whereas metal will tolerate it better. If you don't rapid fire at contests and money's tight, it's doubtful you need to bother. If blowing money on your hobby makes you feel as good as it makes me feel, the go with Tungsten, and not steel.
passive101
08-23-2008, 19:34
Ok you have me sold. Where can I order a non captive tungston guide rod for my glock 26?
I actually broke my guide rod when I accidentally dropped my 26 on my tiled bathroom floor. It still functioned but the flared part out in the front got a piece chipped off. I figured that maybe "just the right drop" could take the whole head of that reoil rod off - just maybe - and I would then have a non functioning weapon.
I did think a metal one would be better for this reason but I figured I should just PRACTICE NOT DROPPING MY WEAPON. Yes, I am a doofus :(
Brian Lee
08-23-2008, 19:52
Lone wolf has them. www.lonewolfdist.com
But I think they only have the captive kind, which can be use as non-captive by just leaving the screw out. That's what I ordered, so that after I make my final decision about spring weight, I'll have the option of putting the screw in there to hold the spring compressed, so as to make gun assembly easier. Just don't trust the screw to stay in place long term without locktight. For range use when you're checking it frequently, no problem. You'll find the rods under Lone Wolf's own brand name, and a variety of springs under ISMI. I'm still cautious about that whole Sprinco Recoil Reduction System they have, because it's not a one piece rod, so I didn't order that.
Brian Lee
08-23-2008, 20:04
Oops... I was mistaken. Lone wolf does not seem to have them for the G26. Sorry to mislead you on that. Seems like somebody would have them, but I don't know who.
passive101
08-23-2008, 20:57
That's ok Brian Lee. Thanks for trying to help though. maybe we can all learn more when someone posts more places you can get them at.
Fire_Medic
08-23-2008, 20:59
Lone wolf does have them I posted the link above, they're made by lightning strike, they're another brand that lone wolf carries.
mickiratt
08-23-2008, 21:01
I've never had a problem with the stock recoil assembly on the subcompacts. I just wait till they go on sale at Midway USA. I just bought two extras for $10.50 a piece.
Steve
passive101
08-24-2008, 01:49
Anyone else?
The purpose of the guide rod is to guide the spring, making spring installation easier. A Glock will function with a broken guide rod. A Glock will function with no guide rod if you install the spring correctly. It's funny that you trust a polymer frame but not a polymer rod.:upeyes:
By the way, my 1997 G26 has it's original guide rod assembly and functions just fine after 10,000+ rounds.
The purpose of the guide rod is to guide the spring, making spring installation easier. A Glock will function with a broken guide rod. A Glock will function with no guide rod if you install the spring correctly. It's funny that you trust a polymer frame but not a polymer rod.:upeyes:
By the way, my 1997 G26 has it's original guide rod assembly and functions just fine after 10,000+ rounds.
I bought my G26 used, and since it was manufactured circa 1996 one of the first things I decided to do is replace all the springs. So I ordered a new Glock OEM recoil rod. When I tried to rack the slide the two parts of the recoil assembly jammed. The thing was defective, and I could see it was a marginal design. All it takes is very slight bend in the last coil on the muzzle end, and there will be interference. I exchanged it for another OEM assembly, and that one was good. But I wasn't comfortable using it, knowing how critical some of the clearances are in it. So I bought a steel Wolf non-captured assembly and I now rest easy, since that design doesn't have such issues.
So bottom line, it's not the fact that it's a polymer part that bothers me. It's just a more complex design than the non-captured version, and less reliable. That said, I'm sure 99.9% of users have never had a problem with the OEM part.
just a shooter
08-24-2008, 10:24
I did not know they existed! I thought all the baby glocks had to use the 2 piece plastic ones from glock
Where can I order a stainless steel guide rod? Can I get springs that are the same as the stock one as I have had zero problems with mine?
there lies your answer,
if it ain't broke, why fix it?
passive101
08-24-2008, 14:07
there lies your answer,
if it ain't broke, why fix it?
I meant I have no had any problems with the spring weight. I have already had to replace my recoil rod.
passive101
08-24-2008, 14:08
Wheel have you had any problems with your captured recoil rod coming apart? I'm assuming it must have a part that screws together or something?
mesteve2
08-24-2008, 15:39
I looked inside a 92 9mm Beretta stainless steel and they are using a plastic guide rod and it is non-captured.
So I think they learned something from Glock.
So I know one does not need to spend all those dollars for a metal guide rod.
passive101
08-24-2008, 15:44
I looked inside a 92 9mm Beretta stainless steel and they are using a plastic guide rod and it is non-captured.
So I think they learned something from Glock.
So I know one does not need to spend all those dollars for a metal guide rod.
I'm just looking for a good steel one for my own uses that is non captured. I replaced mine on my beretta 96 to a steel one even though I had no problems with the plastic one that came with it.
Wheel have you had any problems with your captured recoil rod coming apart? I'm assuming it must have a part that screws together or something?
I've had no problems with captured rods coming apart. They are not designed to be disassembled. You would have to bend the coils of one of the springs to get one apart. There are no screws etc.
The non-captured rods are simpler and have no disadvantages that I've encountered. They require no extra effort to install or remove. Just slip the springs onto the rods and squeeze the whole thing into the slide. One advantage is that you can easily clean the rods and springs, and you can change to different strength springs if you like.
Here's what I use:
http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/GlockNF.html#G26
Part number 50816, rods and standard 16# springs for G26.
My original G19 came with a non-captive recoil spring on a plastic rod. It has never given my any problems, however, the Glock replacement is a captive type that just simply inspires no confidence at all. The G26 assembly is even less inspiring. The captive system just looks like trouble waiting to happen--remember Murphy's Law? I've gone to the Wolff non-captive arrangement in the G19 and I will soon replace the assembly in my G26 as well.
LockingBlock
08-27-2008, 20:55
I know that this is pretty much the opposite of what you looking for but it might be worth a look.
http://www.gunblast.com/Glock26.htm
http://www.gunblast.com/Glock26.htm
glock19_az
08-27-2008, 23:36
This is what I use in my g26 from glockmeister. The new glockmeister owner is real nice and answered all my questions.
http://glockmeister.com/product_info.php?products_id=301
AustinTx
08-27-2008, 23:54
That setup from GlockStore looks like the perfect solution for a sub-compact Glock.
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