Trigger Issue

[firedan]

I searched this topic with negative results. So here goes.

I have a Glock 22 that I use for punching holes in paper and general plinking. I carry a G23 on duty and a G27 off duty. My issue is with the G22, so thank God for small favors that this is a minor problem with my "play" gun. The gun works great except for every once in a while if I am firing fast, (not resetting the trigger for a carefully aimed shot - like a double tap), the gun cycles and the little trigger safety lever - the lever in the trigger (I don't know what it is called), will sometimes get stuck "out" preventing me from pulling the trigger. I have to totally release the trigger and retry to squeeze for the gun to fire. It is a standard 5lb trigger. It does seem more "wiggley" compared to my G23 and G27 which I have never had this problem with.

I am just reaching out to the members of Glock Talk for some advice on this. I'd like the trigger to be exactly like my 5lb G23 and G27 for consistency. Thanks.

[sevenpedaler]

I would just replace the trigger bar.
While you are at it you can put in a 3.5# connector such as the Ghost Rocket. I just did all three of my glocks yesterday. While you are at it take out the Dremmel and polish the contact points and detail strip/clean everything.
I just broke down and did some Lone Wolf shopping and bought all my parts and a good manual....something every glock owner could/should do.
I ended up putting a NY1 in my 29 and 36 with 3.5# connector and a Ghost Rocket in my 20. I'm not sure if I'm going to like the NY1, but I'm giving it a shot....no pun intended. If I don't like it I'll go back to the stock spring.
I really like the Rocket and stock spring in my 20. Polishing the contact points and a little grease and the trigger is great. Can't wait to shoot 'em.

[firedan]

Okay, I will look into replacing the trigger bar, however I'd like to keep everything stock and uniform with my other guns. While this is a "fun" gun, I kill two birds with one stone by getting quality time with a gun that's trigger is supposed to be identical to my work guns.

Any additional insight is welcome.

Thanks

[roymail]

The gun works great except for every once in a while if I am firing fast, (not resetting the trigger for a carefully aimed shot - like a double tap), the gun cycles and the little trigger safety lever - the lever in the trigger (I don't know what it is called), will sometimes get stuck "out" preventing me from pulling the trigger. I have to totally release the trigger and retry to squeeze for the gun to fire.

I have read the above comments several times, and I'm a bit confused. Before assuming anything, would you mind restating and simplifying this in other words.

Breaking it down, what I'm reading is this... "while I'm firing fast, the trigger safety will sometimes get stuck out preventing me from pulling the trigger."

Could you clear this up some. I'm just a little unclear on this. Thanks.

[Slab]

something to think about that "seven" posted is that if you do the NY1 spring and the 3.5 connector they cancel each other out and come out to still land in the 5lb range. the good part about it is that you get a very solid pull and a super crisp break at the end.

As for your "safety trigger" it definately shouldnt be doing what you are describing. the trigger bar should be all it takes to get it back on track.

[Deckard]

firedan,
Any chance this is happening when you shoot weak hand? I've had that happen a few times. The problem is not pulling straight back on the trigger. The trigger finger is exerting slight lateral pressure--just enough to cause the trigger safety lever to catch on the frame as the trigger comes back. Have a care about your finger placement on the trigger and see if that doesn't take care of it.
Glock on!

[Civitas]

There are some plastic tabs (mold remnants) on the sides of the trigger safety that can catch on the front face of the trigger. I cut/sand them off. I have never seen them be big enough to actually stop the trigger safety from being pulled back. That is extreme. Otherwise, there could be something in the internal trigger safety spring. You can't fix that, so just replace the entire trigger bar.

[roymail]

The problem is not pulling straight back on the trigger. The trigger finger is exerting slight lateral pressure--just enough to cause the trigger safety lever to catch on the frame as the trigger comes back.

Yeah, that's sounds like a real possibility.

Like Deckard said, to avoid it just pull straight back each shot. That sounds like about the only thing it could be. No need to replace anything at this point.

[Civitas]

Yeah, that's sounds like a real possibility.

Like Deckard said, to avoid it just pull straight back each shot. That sounds like about the only thing it could be. No need to replace anything at this point.
You are joking I hope. I don't think you could hang the trigger safety just by lateral pressure even if you tried.

[roymail]

Civitas, he said the gun works great, this is an occasional event that only happens when he's firing fast.

"The gun works great except for every once in a while if I am firing fast.."

Just sounds like an odd anomaly that only occurs when he get's in a hurry pulling the trigger.

I didn't say I'd bet my life on it! You guys take it from here... I'm done.

[Civitas]

Civitas, he said the gun works great, this is an occasional event that only happens when he's firing fast.

"The gun works great except for every once in a while if I am firing fast.."

Just sounds like an odd anomaly that only occurs when he get's in a hurry pulling the trigger.

I didn't say I'd bet my life on it! You guys take it from here... I'm done.
I wasn't attacking you. Sorry if it sounded like it. I just can't see how that would work. Has this happened to you?

[firedan]

You know guys, I think Deckard may have the answer. I normally shoot the smaller ones and think that my grip maybe just a little off on the slightly bigger gun. This issue came up while firing controlled pairs from seven yards. As I got to the end of the magazine I actually could not fire because the little trigger lever wedged against the reciever before I could fire my second shot. I had to let off the pressure, fix my grip and then squeeze.

I was doing some dry fire drills tonight and I found I have developed a habit of putting just the very tip of my finger very low on the trigger which may fit in with the lateral pressure theory. I'll shoot it some more at the range and keep you guys posted. If the problem persists, I'll see if one of the armorers at the PD can change the trigger.