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DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 13:37
I was thinking with the whole big deal about no posting bikini pictures and no cursing, due to a "vocal minority," that maybe another "vocal minority" should be catered to as well. I was thinking that opening up an "Adult's Club" or something of that nature, would give the "good ol boys (and gals)" a chance to cut loose a little. It would be password protected and age regulated. NO I do NOT mean a pornographic club, but just somewhere more leaniant where we wouldn't be bound to the "family oriented" rules on the regular forum. Just a place for "dirty jokes" "Racy pictures" and good "not so clean" humored fun...


Racy pictures of women (Or men, for that matter) are no longer allowed here. They were until recently, but the antics of a vocal minority here have compelled me to change this policy. Please do not post or link to such pictures, or use them in avatars or profile pictures.

Post opinions and thoughts here.

Thanks

--Chuck

KusoJijii
08-29-2008, 13:42
I said no.

JellyBelly
08-29-2008, 13:43
Yes. I'd definitely post there.

tbhracing
08-29-2008, 13:44
I said no for two reasons.

I think a leaner board with less sub folders is ideal. And they already have the OAF club for the ligther stuff.

Atlas
08-29-2008, 13:49
Besides... GT is not a democracy.

Longtooths
08-29-2008, 13:50
I was thinking with the whole big deal about no posting bikini pictures and no cursing, due to a "vocal minority," that maybe another "vocal minority" should be catered to as well. I was thinking that opening up an "Adult's Club" or something of that nature, would give the "good ol boys (and gals)" a chance to cut loose a little. It would be password protected and age regulated. YES I DO mean a pornographic club, but just somewhere more leaniant where we wouldn't be bound to the "family oriented" rules on the regular forum. Just a place for "dirty jokes" "Racy pictures" and good "not so clean" humored fun...

Fixed it for you.

love porn

Dalton Wayne
08-29-2008, 13:50
I voted no

Peace Warrior
08-29-2008, 13:52
if you had just left it at yes, or at least had a simple, "yes" vote, I would have voted yes. I think it would be a great place to annex all the non-family threads/posts without having to ban the posters, but even so, I like the fact the buck stops with one person. This keeps it REAL clear to all on GT. I am not warm to the idea of a "panel."

12131
08-29-2008, 13:52
I thought we already have the OAF.

JellyBelly
08-29-2008, 13:53
Why not just ban the vocal minority? ;)

Retseh
08-29-2008, 13:53
So how does Jelly Belly's avatar pass muster then???

PS - I really like it/her

Jav21
08-29-2008, 13:59
If they pay. Pic and vid heavy forums should pay otherwise there are plenty of other sites to have that type of forum without consuming GT resources.

tbhracing
08-29-2008, 14:00
So how does Jelly Belly's avatar pass muster then???

PS - I really like it/her

Shhhhhhh! That avatar is a classic and had been Grandfathered it. It cant be moved or changed.

Thnak you.

sharpshooter
08-29-2008, 14:01
No. You wanna look at racey pics? There's a million places on the web to do that. No need for it here.

Besides, Eric doesn't want it. End of discussion.

mnglocker
08-29-2008, 14:07
No. You wanna look at racey pics? There's a million places on the web to do that. No need for it here.

Besides, Eric doesn't want it. End of discussion.


Ditto that. Just what we need for some gun grabbing kook group to see is that not only are we "gun nuts" but pRon hounds too. Keep it clean, we represent all gun owners here; so let's leave a good impression.

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 14:18
Ditto that. Just what we need for some gun grabbing kook group to see is that not only are we "gun nuts" but pRon hounds too. Keep it clean, we represent all gun owners here; so let's leave a good impression.

Yeah hence I tossed in the "NOT PORN!!!" on the subject line. But I see what you are getting at. I just used to enjoy the discussions with familiar and friendly people that we used to be able to have with a few good jokes and "racey" (not sure how any of them were all that bad anyways) pictures.

Ahh.. the good ol days.

--Chuck

Peace Warrior
08-29-2008, 14:19
I thought we already have the OAF.
:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:

good point.

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 14:27
I thought we already have the OAF.

Thats a good point, indeed, but I have yet to see the difference between that forum and "Gen Non-Glocking."

mnglocker
08-29-2008, 14:37
Thats a good point, indeed, but I have yet to see the difference between that forum and "Gen Non-Glocking."


Come'on down and spend some quality time. :wavey:

Zell
08-29-2008, 14:41
Nope. Not a good idea. It's like putting a strip club in the middle of a suburb.

Chaos
08-29-2008, 14:45
I value Eric's decision to not have a forum like that, but since it was asked, I vote yes anyways. Don't expect it to happen, and won't be disappointed if it doesn't. But just giving my honest answer.
No..I don't want porn or out of hand mindless gutter talk. But some light fun and tasteful adult humor without watching what we say every time would be nice. Most members here are adults, and would like to just chat and have fun the way they do at home. However, as i said..not pushing for it, and don't mind that it isn't allowed. But it is obvious from the way many threads go that there might just be a need for it. Call it an outlet so that the rest of the forums can get back on track :-)

Chaos

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 14:51
I value Eric's decision to not have a forum like that, but since it was asked, I vote yes anyways. Don't expect it to happen, and won't be disappointed if it doesn't. But just giving my honest answer.
No..I don't want porn or out of hand mindless gutter talk. But some light fun and tasteful humor without watching what we say every time would be nice. Most members here are adults, and would like to just chat and have fun the way they do at home. However, as i said..not pushing for it, and don't mind that it isn't allowed.

Chaos

Well put. I guess an "Adult Forum" is ona thin line, where some people think it would be an all out sex and orgy fest, and others, who understand what the intent, is a nice place to kick back a little without walking on eggshells. Like the bowling alley or the "Gentlemen's Club" or the Hunting Cabin...

major
08-29-2008, 15:00
Besides... GT is not a democracy.

+1. Eric is King here or, if he wishes, dictator and/or tyrant. The bottom line is that it is his site and he can run it any way he wants. I personally think that is one reason GT is so successful......he can do things on a whim if he wishes, doesn't have to be "fair" about decisions, and doesn't have to explain his actions to anyone.

I'm not dissing him by any means. Just saying that when he thinks "enough is enough", that's it........no debate. Like I said, that's one reason I believe GT is still around.

JASV.17
08-29-2008, 15:04
If such a forum were established, it would go to hell in a handbasket real quick anyways, you know....."give an inch, take a mile".

Anyways, if such a forum were to be created, let me know, I have some great ideas for new threads.

novaDAK
08-29-2008, 15:09
I voted yes. We're all Adult enough to talk about guns, self defense, politics, and many other topics, we're adult enough to handle a layed back area as well.

However I agree... Eric's the boss (and he has a great website :) )

Deradius
08-29-2008, 15:14
I was thinking that opening up an "Adult's Club" or something of that nature, would give the "good ol boys (and gals)" a chance to cut loose a little. It would be password protected and age regulated.

So what's stopping you? Go open one up and do what you want.

Please do not post or link to such pictures, or use them in avatars or profile pictures.

On Eric's site, I'd figure Eric's rules, written in plain black and white, with reasons explained (or not!), should be unambiguous enough for us.

I don't see anything productive about posting a poll to see how many of us disagree with the way Eric runs his board.

That's his business, not ours, and for the "paying member" crowd, he's been clear since anyone ever cut a membership check that even if you send him ten thousand smackers, he's going to run the board his way.


NO I do NOT mean a pornographic club, but just somewhere more leaniant where we wouldn't be bound to the "family oriented" rules on the regular forum. Just a place for "dirty jokes" "Racy pictures" and good "not so clean" humored fun...

The reason that the rules exist is because Eric originally permitted a more PG-13 / R environment, and people started testing the line.

And kept testing the line.

And testing the line.

And arguing about what did and did not constitute porn.

And debating. And complaining. Eating up time, bandwidth, and resources, posting porn and trying to argue it was nothing of the sort.

It's a waste of his time and ours. People can't help themselves, they have to exploit any little bit of latittude they get until it's ruined.

Eventually, if I were Eric and this kind of crap kept up, I'd pack it in and call it quits.

SVTNate
08-29-2008, 15:14
This forum already has far too many sub-forums which are dead or close to it... why not add another? :rofl:

I don't really care. I post in about 3 forums here and don't even look at the rest. I can get by with or without bikini pics, nude pics, whatever. I'm happy with the GT forums I currently browse as they are.

WINGS
08-29-2008, 15:15
I thought we already have the OAF.

Yep, isn't that where you can cut loose...........?:dunno:

PlaneJane
08-29-2008, 15:19
I think a forum with a TOS equivalent to prime-time broadcast television in terms of "adultness" would be nice. It'll never happen here for a variety of reasons, but it would be nice to be able to interact on an adult level with my friends here as a group instead of having to do it one on one by email.


Jane

costanza187
08-29-2008, 15:26
I don't think the boss would ever go for it. But I voted yes :)

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 15:30
Of course this is Erics forum, of course its not a democracy, I guess some feel the need to state the obvious. I just posted a poll to see where people stand on such. I'm sure Eric will read it and do what he wants with it, probably nothing, beats me. It was just an "experiment" at best. Calm.. cool... eeeasssyy breaths.

Thanks for all who have posted.

--Chuck

bocephus549
08-29-2008, 15:33
It could be called Glock After Dark.

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 15:35
It could be called Glock After Dark.

I like that! Good ring to it.

--Chuck

costanza187
08-29-2008, 15:38
It could be called Glock After Dark.
Good call on that one! It would be cool if we could have a PG-13 area... no porn of course or anything too outrageous, but not have to worry about getting in trouble for posting a pic or a funny comment.

kahrcarrier
08-29-2008, 15:40
I just don't see the need.


And I am as filthy minded as they come..........


There are certain places in which I try to restrain myself; GT is one of them.

Raoul Duke
08-29-2008, 15:44
Negatory. This place has high standards and should keep them. There's plenty of places for that kinda stuff.

Clyde in CO
08-29-2008, 15:45
I voted no, simply because it's never gonna happen.

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 15:49
I voted no, simply because it's never gonna happen.


Its not a voting booth, just an opinion. This poll (obviously) doesn't decide what will happen, as we know it wont. I just wanted to "hear the people." Which, oddly enough, seems to be a bad thing. :dunno:

--Chuck

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 15:49
Good call on that one! It would be cool if we could have a PG-13 area... no porn of course or anything too outrageous, but not have to worry about getting in trouble for posting a pic or a funny comment.

Some people get it....

--Chuck

Morris
08-29-2008, 15:59
I dunno Chuck. Perhaps if you stepped up to the plate and contributed cash for such a sub-forum, perhaps you could make it happen.

Until then, no on that poll.

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 16:03
I dunno Chuck. Perhaps if you stepped up to the plate and contributed cash for such a sub-forum, perhaps you could make it happen.

Until then, no on that poll.

Another "no" vote "because it wont happen." People, its opinion. I'd gladly mod and contribute to such a sub-forum, but thats a different topic all together, this thread was to hear your opinions. Oh well...

--Chuck

JellyBelly
08-29-2008, 16:20
So how does Jelly Belly's avatar pass muster then???

PS - I really like it/her


I was very careful choose a screen grab that didn't go too far.

Fast Times at Ridgemont High is a classic movie.

One word from Eric and it'll be gone. I may want him to change the rules, but I love GT and will try to be a good guest in Eric's house.

Morris
08-29-2008, 16:21
You got my opinion.

Be a contributor. You might get more traction that way.

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 16:28
You got my opinion.

Be a contributor. You might get more traction that way.

If you saw my paycheck, you'd be contributing to me, LoL. I'm not looking for traction or to get things changed, just wanted to see what people had to say on the matter. I doubt my 80 dollars a year for even the Plat would give me any more or less pull on anything, thats not the point of contribution anyways, or is it?

Edited to add: If there were such a forum (which we know there wont be, heard it over, and over) that maybe being a money paying member would be a pre-req for such? That makes sense.

Again thanks for all who've posted.

vart
08-29-2008, 16:33
I voted yes.

However, I would likely not go there since I don't make a habit out of viewing inappropriate things (except Family Guy; Lord give me strength).

There are quite a few folks on here who enjoy such pleasures, and I think they should get a forum where they could indulge in such activities without it affecting the overall quality of the site.

BEER
08-29-2008, 16:35
Keep it clean, we represent all gun owners here; so let's leave a good impression.

then we need to also remove all of the following....

any mention of "zombies". we're not mental patients who truly believe that the dead are ever going to rise up and walk the earth are we? and on the other side of that coin, everybody knows that "zombies" is a codeword for something entirely different.

"it's on cuz". we're not all confrontational at the drop of a hat.

any and every mention of any crime or news report related to rapists, child molestation, or sex offenders. these subjects bring out the absolute worst responses from alot of folks every single time and it makes us all look like bloodthirsty vigilantes.

no more political discussions. this one is a premptive measure because we all know that sooner or later somebody is going to mention the big political A word and then we're all hosed.

no more pictures of people's firearms collections either. do you have any idea how it looks to the other side when 1 person posts a pic of his 20 assault weapons and waist high stacks of ammo and loaded mags? i enjoy those pics, but this is about worrying about what other folks think about us as a group right?

no more cop related threads of any sort. these threads never go well. half of gt comes in screaming about how evil the police are and then the other half browbeats the first half into silence. none of that can look good to the outside world.

this list could go on and on and on, but i think you get my point.


let's worry about making the members here happy and tell everybody else to suck sewage through a paper straw.

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 16:39
then we need to also remove all of the following....

any mention of "zombies". we're not mental patients who truly believe that the dead are ever going to rise up and walk the earth are we? and on the other side of that coin, everybody knows that "zombies" is a codeword for something entirely different.

"it's on cuz". we're not all confrontational at the drop of a hat.

any and every mention of any crime or news report related to rapists, child molestation, or sex offenders. these subjects bring out the absolute worst responses from alot of folks every single time and it makes us all look like bloodthirsty vigilantes.

no more political discussions. this one is a premptive measure because we all know that sooner or later somebody is going to mention the big political A word and then we're all hosed.

no more pictures of people's firearms collections either. do you have any idea how it looks to the other side when 1 person posts a pic of his 20 assault weapons and waist high stacks of ammo and loaded mags? i enjoy those pics, but this is about worrying about what other folks think about us as a group right?

no more cop related threads of any sort. these threads never go well. half of gt comes in screaming about how evil the police are and then the other half browbeats the first half into silence. none of that can look good to the outside world.

this list could go on and on and on, but i think you get my point.


let's worry about making the members here happy and tell everybody else to suck sewage through a paper straw.



:wow::wow: Thats.... wtf I'm talking about...

misskitty5077
08-29-2008, 16:46
I was thinking with the whole big deal about no posting bikini pictures and no cursing, due to a "vocal minority," that maybe another "vocal minority" should be catered to as well. I was thinking that opening up an "Adult's Club" or something of that nature, would give the "good ol boys (and gals)" a chance to cut loose a little. It would be password protected and age regulated. NO I do NOT mean a pornographic club, but just somewhere more leaniant where we wouldn't be bound to the "family oriented" rules on the regular forum. Just a place for "dirty jokes" "Racy pictures" and good "not so clean" humored fun...




Post opinions and thoughts here.

Thanks

--Chuck

A few years ago, a few members found the need to do something similar when they wanted some things changed about GT. They formed their own board, including a soft "porn" forum. When members fought they did not stop the fight; they moved it to a special forum for that kind of crap. I think all profanity was allowed (not positive as it's been a while). The board did not last a year. ;)

DrMaxit
08-29-2008, 16:49
A few years ago, a few members found the need to do something similar when they wanted some things changed about GT. They formed their own board, including a soft "porn" forum. When members fought they did not stop the fight; they moved it to a special forum for that kind of crap. I think all profanity was allowed (not positive as it's been a while). The board did not last a year. ;)


Good input, I guess some people need to be controlled, but it sort of makes me sick that a few "vocal minorities" can get the whole forum changed to G rated when it ran as pg-13 for years with no problems side from a few. To me, THOSE are the ones that should have found a new forum, not change to cater to their needs. But.. hey, its life.

PeterJasonMN
08-29-2008, 16:52
If I remember right, one of the last times Eric asked about input (When the paid system was in the works), there was talk of a more "relaxed" forum. A LOT of people said no, they didn't want it.

MarksGlock22
08-29-2008, 16:54
I vote no. I'm sure if I wanted to find a forum like that, their are plenty on the internet already.

Eric
08-29-2008, 16:54
I was thinking with the whole big deal about no posting bikini pictures and no cursing, due to a "vocal minority," that maybe another "vocal minority" should be catered to as well. I was thinking that opening up an "Adult's Club" or something of that nature, would give the "good ol boys (and gals)" a chance to cut loose a little. It would be password protected and age regulated. NO I do NOT mean a pornographic club, but just somewhere more leaniant where we wouldn't be bound to the "family oriented" rules on the regular forum. Just a place for "dirty jokes" "Racy pictures" and good "not so clean" humored fun...




Post opinions and thoughts here.

Thanks

--Chuck

People always think that most people naturally agree with them. Look, this isn't about a 'Vocal Minority'. This is about long-standing policy here. My policy. I have been running this place for a decade and I know what works here. More importantly, I know what does not work. I know what things cause discord and start trouble. There is damned little I do here that isn't done for some very compelling reasons, based on many long years of experience, whether you are aware of those reasons or not.

People's opinions are always welcome, but I do not run this site by popular vote. If I change the way things are done here, it is not going to be because someone tries to force my hand in this manner. Eric

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