H & K Usp Compact Trigger Pull

[JOHNNY C.]

My H & K USP Compact 40 cal trigger pull is on the tough side. I've been advised by a local gunsmith, not to have the trigger pull worked on. He said the gun was not designed for target shooting, but to be used as a carry gun for denfensive protection. My question is, if I have the trigger worked on, will that affect the performance of the gun when used as a defensive weapon?
Has anyone out there had their H & K trigger worked on? Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks.

[pogo2]

Are you referring to the double action or single action trigger pull? My USP 40c has an ordinary DA pull and quite a good SA pull. They don't impair my accuracy with the gun, so I wouldn't have them worked on.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/HKUSP40c30.jpg

[Clem Eastwood]

before you shot it did you remove all the preservative in the pistol? if not that is most of the problem. i recommend using synthetic safe gun scrubber for this. one thing you should know about the HKs is that the trigger pull gets better as you shoot it.

also, i lube the contact points of the trigger parts on my HKs. that makes the trigger pretty good. several people have told me that the triggers in my HKs are smoother and lighter then any theyve ever shot. its because theyve each got about 3K rounds through them, and i use a needle oiler filled with royal purple 30wt to lube the trigger contact surfaces. id say mobil 1 oil would work as well too. give those suggestions a try and see what you think.

[JOHNNY C.]

before you shot it did you remove all the preservative in the pistol? if not that is most of the problem. i recommend using synthetic safe gun scrubber for this. one thing you should know about the HKs is that the trigger pull gets better as you shoot it.

also, i lube the contact points of the trigger parts on my HKs. that makes the trigger pretty good. several people have told me that the triggers in my HKs are smoother and lighter then any theyve ever shot. its because theyve each got about 3K rounds through them, and i use a needle oiler filled with royal purple 30wt to lube the trigger contact surfaces. id say mobil 1 oil would work as well too. give those suggestions a try and see what you think.
Clem:
I guess I want a lighter touch on the trigger. The gun is not old by no means. I've proably fired about 1 - 2,000 rounds out of it. Do you think working on the trigger for a shorter pull would be detramental to it's use?

Thanks

[sigcalcatrant]

Clem:
I guess I want a lighter touch on the trigger. The gun is not old by no means. I've proably fired about 1 - 2,000 rounds out of it. Do you think working on the trigger for a shorter pull would be detramental to it's use?

ThanksYou won't get a shorter pull but you might lighten it by using a lighter hammer spring. Test it THOROUGHLY, if you replace the spring, with your chosen defensive load, paying extra attention to the primer's 'dimple'. It can also be smoothed up a bit.

http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/HecklerKochNF.html#USP

[Clem Eastwood]

you could put a lighter main spring in it, but it wont hit the primer as hard.

[Novocaine]

Some people think that lighter trigger pull is a liability for SD. To my way of thinking if it makes you shoot straighter faster it's a good thing. So long as this mod doesn't sacrifice reliability of course. If you don't wanna shoot you don't press the trigger, if you wanna shoot you press the trigger. There's no in between. And lighter, smoother, shorter, crispier trigger is easier to press. With one caveat that you must become VERY familiar with a new light trigger. USP Expert has a scary light SA pull from the factory so I'm sure there's a way to make your compacts ignition system "target" grade. But only you can decide if it's worth ruining the warranty and the risk of messing it up for good. IMO it's more than adequate for its intended use. I wouldn't mess with the clockwork on USP. That's what 1911s are for.

[TylerDurden]

My carry is pretty much a rotation of a USP compact in .40 S&W and a Colt 1911. The USPc trigger will smooth out over time, but it will never be great.

You could swap it out for a LEM trigger.

[racine]

The USPs are NOT known for their triggers though some will dispute this. I'd recommend you contact Bruce Gray of GrayGuns through the Sig forums and ask for his opinion. He was an HK sponsored shooter and gunsmith and has worked on my USP for competition. He has a CCW trigger package as well to smooth and lighten things up just enough. CCW guns are NOT intended for competitive use though use in IDPA and production div. of USPSA will point out it's shortcomings or advantages. I can speak for Bruce's strong work and outstanding customer service- second to NONE.
Racine

[Forgoten214]

Are you referring to the double action or single action trigger pull? My USP 40c has an ordinary DA pull and quite a good SA pull. They don't impair my accuracy with the gun, so I wouldn't have them worked on.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/HKUSP40c30.jpg

Very nice looking!

[JNKIRK1974]

My carry is pretty much a rotation of a USP compact in .40 S&W and a Colt 1911. The USPc trigger will smooth out over time, but it will never be great.

You could swap it out for a LEM trigger.

I dig my LEM. Never thought I'd want an LEM trigger, but this one is very good.

[RedTape]

The trigger will smooth out a little, but if you really want a nice trigger you need to send it to Bruce Gray at GrayGuns. Like racine said, you can get in touch with him through Sigforum.

[-gunut-]

HK triggers wear in to be very good. Ever felt a used on at a gun shop?

I thought about getting mine done a while ago but never got around to it.

Contact Bruce Gray. Last I checked (within the last year) they will still do the USP trigger jobs. His work on HK triggers is awesome. IIRC it was around $100. Is it worth it to you?

[JOHNNY C.]

you could put a lighter main spring in it, but it wont hit the primer as hard.

This is one of my concerns.
Guess I'll hold off on a quick fix and work the gun instead. I know it has eased up a bit since I got it. Maybe 1-2K more rounds will help along with lubing the trigger mech. Thanks for the advise.

[JOHNNY C.]

HK triggers wear in to be very good. Ever felt a used on at a gun shop?

I thought about getting mine done a while ago but never got around to it.

Contact Bruce Gray. Last I checked (within the last year) they will still do the USP trigger jobs. His work on HK triggers is awesome. IIRC it was around $100. Is it worth it to you?

Never felt a used one. Think I will hold off on the trigger work. :upeyes:

[TylerDurden]

Just shoot the crap out of it.

I'll put up a pic of mine later, it's pretty damn smooth, but it looks like an old whore.

[JOHNNY C.]

Just shoot the crap out of it.

I'll put up a pic of mine later, it's pretty damn smooth, but it looks like an old whore.


I like old whores. :rofl:

[TylerDurden]

I like old whores. :rofl:

They're the best at what they do. :supergrin:

[revel8]

i'd leave it alone. you aren't going to a notice in a real SD situation.

[On the Gulf]

I dig my LEM. Never thought I'd want an LEM trigger, but this one is very good.

Me, too!