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Is the p6 same as the p228 but older?
No...the P6 ~ P225. P228 is a double stack.
srothman
09-09-2008, 16:15
As others have said the P6 is a single stack 9mm, the 228 is a double stack.
P6 would be closer to the 239, out of the current models.
It's my understanding that the P6 is the same gun as the 225, where the 228 is a compact version of the 226.
other than that, is it the same?:headscratch:
ooh ya, not to hijack the thread, but is the P225 the same as the P226 only a single stack?:dunno::wavey:
No.
The P6 = P225. The closest equivalent to the P6 currently is a P239 in 9mm.
The 226 is a full-sized double-stack pistol. The 239 is a compact single-stack, as is the P225/P6. The 228 is a compact double-stack: The 228 and the 239/225/P6 are kinda like a Glock 30 and Glock 36. Similar size, different widths and mag capacities.
I swear, SIG is the only company with a more confusing number/caliber/model scheme than Glock. :upeyes:
No.
The P6 = P225. The closest equivalent to the P6 currently is a P239 in 9mm.
The 226 is a full-sized pistol. The 239 is a compact single-stack, as is the P225/P6. The 228 is a compact double-stack.
I swear, SIG is the only company with a more confusing number/caliber/model scheme than Glock. :upeyes:
ooh cool, thanks bro:wavey:
....and, ya. i think Glock's are a little bit more easier to remember:rofl:
...but is the P225 the same as the P226 only a single stack?:dunno::wavey:
Then, it wouldn't be the same now, would it?:upeyes:
:supergrin::tongueout:
Derek19360
09-09-2008, 20:53
Lets see if I can help add some information here.
The P225 is based off the .45 P220 model - it's a single stack design chambered in 9MM. The P6 is a designation used for German police models, and basically is a P225 with some slight modifications such as a different hammer design. The P6's will generally be less expensive than a true P225. With a P6 you need to make sure that it will reliably feed hollowpoints as there are some barrel differences with it compared to a P225.
The P228 is considered the compact version of the P226 - both are double stack weapons. The P228 was only chambered in 9MM though. When wanting to go to a different caliber, the P229 was created with a more robust slide to handle .40S&W.
Neither the P228 or P225 are made these days, but can easily be found either used or as CPO's (certified pre-owned).
DenaliPark
09-09-2008, 21:12
Derek 19360 has delivered the most effective comparison of the two versions of the Sig Sauer 225 platform. If that doesn't work for you look at it like this, CZ makes an outstanding little .380 for the export market which is enormously popular with european LE called the CZ-83, "probably the best .380 cal pistol ever mass produced including those twins from Beretta and browning, the BDA and the 84". It's such an effective platform that the Chech's originally adopted the pistol for their service sidearm but chambered in 9x18 instead of .380 and called the 82 instead of the 83, other then that they are pretty much identical aside from cosmetics...
leejax01
09-09-2008, 21:15
I am looking for a good 9mm gun for the range and CC. I have a pick of a P228 and a P6(actually I was told it was a P5 as it was an actual German police handgun with 7 in the clip). At this point, I already have a P229 as a point of reference.
tercel89
09-09-2008, 21:23
Buy thre Sig P-6 , it is a "best bang for the buck" !!!!!!!!!! I got two!!!!!! I wish I had a whole fleet of them .
Derek19360
09-09-2008, 21:35
The only potential drawbacks to the P225/P6 are as follows:
1) Reliability feeding hollowpoint ammo - supposedly the newer P6's have a better designed barrel to help ensure proper feeding. P225's should be fine in this regard.
2) Difficulty in getting reliable magazines. For carry/home use, make sure to stick with original Sig mags, which may be hard to get and pricey.
3) Difficulty in getting replacement grips. If you're happy with what's on the gun, you'll be OK. Replacement Pachmayers can run $100+.
Fenris Wolf
09-10-2008, 01:25
(actually I was told it was a P5 as it was an actual German police handgun with 7 in the clip).
The P5 is a Walther not a SIG. The P225 is SIG's commercial version and the P6 is the Police version.
chowchow
09-10-2008, 09:25
P 6 is easy to conceal. Always have a second mag to get 16 rds total at hand (one mag in gun and the extra). Or get the SIg 228/Glock 19 and have 15 rds in one mag.
The only potential drawbacks to the P225/P6 are as follows:
1) Reliability feeding hollowpoint ammo - supposedly the newer P6's have a better designed barrel to help ensure proper feeding. P225's should be fine in this regard.
2) Difficulty in getting reliable magazines. For carry/home use, make sure to stick with original Sig mags, which may be hard to get and pricey.
3) Difficulty in getting replacement grips. If you're happy with what's on the gun, you'll be OK. Replacement Pachmayers can run $100+.
Never encountered a problem with mine vis-a-vis hollow points (that's not an argument, just expressing that I seem to have been luck that way) and I'm perfectly content with the stock grips.
Mags. That's still a problem.
I posted a while back about a problem with the stock SIG mags...flat bottom plate can (during a speed-reload) result in an incomplete seating. The mag then doesn't fully engage the inner catch and falls right back out or just fails to feed the next round. To avoid this, you have to release the bottom half of your grip and get your strong hand completely out of the way, to ensure that you get that mag FLUSH with the bottom of the grip. (Big hands seem to be a big problem in lots of ways.)
I mentioned that the ProMag replacement has an extended plastic bottom with a semi-finger-rest that makes a speed reload much more reliable in that regard. It just gives the heel of your loading hand some little extra to push on.
Someone remarked that ProMag has feed problems...which, at 300 rounds, I said I had not observed. Now, at 500+ rounds, I have to say he was right. Delivery of that first round has become very inconsistent!
At a loss (since dropping my ccw from a 16 round XD to an 8 round 225, I've gotten pretty serious about the speed-reload drills in that video of Travis Tomasi someone posted here some time back under "You Aren't This Fast") I finally cut some pads of 1/8 leather from an old, worn out holster and used Locktite SuperGel to secure them to the butt-plates of my stock SIG mags.
Worked like a champ! No more "not quite catching" on a reload, plus no more ending the day at the range with a bruise on the heel of my left hand.
(And no...I'm still "not this fast!" but where Tomasi has a reload under a second, I'm down to just over two.)
tinygnat219
09-10-2008, 11:13
I swear, SIG is the only company with a more confusing number/caliber/model scheme than Glock. :upeyes:
Ummm, you have seen S&W's number/caliber/model scheme right?
I think SIG's, while annoying, isn't that bad. Glock's downright simple. But S&W? Hooo boy.
:cool:
Then, it wouldn't be the same now, would it?: upeyes:
:supergrin::tongueout:
well i guess it wouldn't be, Gee...Thanks:upeyes:
:tongueout::tongueout:
Cartouche
09-10-2008, 14:59
Get the P228, not the P6...5, or whatever. Get the 228, you will be happier. And less confused.
I just got a P6. The slide and bbl are marked 228. I read that this was done to make
it more accurate and be able to use hollow point ammo. It's still a single stack.
Anyone else have one of these that are marked 228/P6 ?
The 228 is more scarce than the P6.
MyBabyDaddy
09-10-2008, 15:58
No.
The P6 = P225. The closest equivalent to the P6 currently is a P239 in 9mm.
The 226 is a full-sized double-stack pistol. The 239 is a compact single-stack, as is the P225/P6. The 228 is a compact double-stack: The 228 and the 239/225/P6 are kinda like a Glock 30 and Glock 36. Similar size, different widths and mag capacities.
I swear, SIG is the only company with a more confusing number/caliber/model scheme than Glock. :upeyes:
I agree. S&W is very confusing; and I find H&K a little confusing also.
Derek19360
09-10-2008, 16:24
I just got a P6. The slide and bbl are marked 228. I read that this was done to make
it more accurate and be able to use hollow point ammo. It's still a single stack.
Anyone else have one of these that are marked 228/P6 ?
That's interesting to hear......I guess in theory this could work as the barrel length is the same, but I wouldn't have thought the slide would be the same exact dimension between the two.
I've heard about Sig cobbling together existing parts to make a gun, but this is a new one to me!
so How many does the p228 double stack mag hold. I live in cali so its only a 10 rounder or (8 for p6). on another note does anyone still have those pictures of the custom p6 grips?
so How many does the p228 double stack mag hold. I live in cali so its only a 10 rounder or (8 for p6). on another note does anyone still have those pictures of the custom p6 grips?
P228 factory double stack magazines hold 15.
And HERE (http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/6151043431) is a thread on SigForum.com for custom grips.
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