View Full Version : I'm an idiot I broke me Glock and its not even a week old
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 22:54
I changed my slide plate out. So I figured I would put a mag in rack the slide a few times to make sure everything was okay. Well its not....the slide had to be yanked back to eject the round....Any suggestions?
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 22:56
get an XD...
Thanks
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 22:57
All Yer Base, Are Belong To Us
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 22:58
All Yer Base, Are Belong To Us
HUH?
?
BustedFlush
09-11-2008, 23:00
I changed my slide plate out. So I figured I would put a mag in rack the slide a few times to make sure everything was okay. Well its not....the slide had to be yanked back to eject the round....Any suggestions?
Not clear what the problem is.
You are hand cycling live ammo, and you have to pull the slide pretty hard to eject the round? That does not sound unusual.
Is this something you did BEFORE you swapped parts? Does it really feel different?
To be safe, get someone to check it out. Hand cycling is not a real good "simulation" of the extraction/ejection when you actually shoot the pistol
BF
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:00
I changed my slide plate out. So I figured I would put a mag in rack the slide a few times to make sure everything was okay. Well its not....the slide had to be yanked back to eject the round....Any suggestions?
How else is the round supposed to eject? Osmosis?
Changed it out with what? Make sure the extractor, extractor depressor plunger, spring, and bearing are installed properly. The "bearing" should ride against the inside of the slide plate, but it really should work either way. Maybe the safety plunger / extractor engagement? Did you detail strip at all?
All Yer Base, Are Belong To Us
:dunno::bunny::crazy:
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:03
:dunno::bunny::crazy:
That's what I thought about the initial question.
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 23:03
Changed it out with what? Make sure the extractor, extractor depressor plunger, spring, and bearing are installed properly. The "bearing" should ride against the inside of the slide plate, but it really should work either way. Maybe the safety plunger / extractor engagement? Did you detail strip at all?
No all i did was remove the slide plate and replaced it with a stainless one.
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 23:04
Not clear what the problem is.
You are hand cycling live ammo, and you have to pull the slide pretty hard to eject the round? That does not sound unusual.
Is this something you did BEFORE you swapped parts? Does it really feel different?
To be safe, get someone to check it out. Hand cycling is not a real good "simulation" of the extraction/ejection when you actually shoot the pistol
BF
Yeah I know how it feels to cycle rounds by hand out of it...it doesnt feel like that
...maybe for a range toy, but not in anything I'd depend on. Anyhow...take 5 seconds to try the original slide plate again.
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:06
I'm guessing the ass-end of the new slide plate cover is dragging on something..
get an XD...
Yep this would never happen to a XD since there's no custom parts available for it. :whistling:
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:10
Yep this would never happen to a XD since there's no custom parts available for it. :whistling:
We should make them, without the hole in the middle. Simply remove the worthless striker indicator that pokes out the back of the slide plate, then install the aftermarket part.
BTW, why doesn't somebody make a steel slide plate cover for the Glock? All the one's I see are Aluminum.
Butch, the Guru of Glocks, would suggest that you put it back the way it was, if the malfunction continues, look for more precise problems...if it doesn't , leave it alone.
If it works stock, why change ?
I am out :cool:
I'm sorry you're an idiot, really!
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 23:17
I'm sorry you're an idiot, really!
i'm an idiot because I tried to add something to my glock
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:20
i'm an idiot because I tried to add something to my glock
:alien:
Take the plate off and make sure all the parts are in correctly and try the old one and see if it's the same. Simple as that.
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:24
Your limp-wristing it.
Your limp-wristing it.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
There are a limited number of possibilities. It's a process of elimination to figure out what went wrong. Go slow...reverse what you did...try it stock...then try the new part again if you're bound to have it...THINK and OBSERVE...with patience. It's a simple mechanism. You did something wrong...or the part needs a bit of fitting.
JimBianchi
09-11-2008, 23:32
Bushs fault
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 23:36
Would a broken guide rod cause this prolblem? Stock plate on still same thing
Mamaluke
09-11-2008, 23:36
get an XD...
I wouldn't buy Croatian made underwear.
Trigger Finger
09-11-2008, 23:37
Stop watching Baywatch just prior to working on your Glock :supergrin:
Seriously, perhaps you could be more specific in the problem.
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:39
Would a broken guide rod cause this prolblem? Stock plate on still same thing
Yes, and it would be very obvious by it's broken appearance.
Yes, and it would be very obvious by it's broken appearance.
Stop being an azzhole. The guy has a question, if you can't help, and obviously you can't, stfu and move on.
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 23:46
I thought people joined this board to talk about Glocks and help people with there Glocks and etc. Guess FU@KING not
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:48
Stop being an azzhole. The guy has a question, if you can't help, and obviously you can't, stfu and move on.
Yes, and the question made no sense at all, until he elaborated a little.
Initially I thought he was insane or "on dope".. so I replied with "All Yer Base Are Belong To Us" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQnDkgdIn_A&feature=related
If the recoil spring was broken, yes it would require someone to yank the slide back to eject rounds, and it would be obvious that this would be the problem when it has a 90 degree bend in it.
Bushs fault
George Bush doesn't care about Glock People?
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:50
I thought people joined this board to talk about Glocks and help people with there Glocks and etc. Guess FU@KING not
Not at all. We want to get to the bottom of this problem.
You returned the Glock back to it's original form, and it still requires a lot of effort to eject the round?
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 23:52
Not at all. We want to get to the bottom of this problem.
You returned the Glock back to it's original form, and it still requires a lot of effort to eject the round?
Yes its back stock still the same issue. Now I'm being paranoid about every part I look at. The guide rod seems flimsier than I remember, and the ejector looks bent. I trided to post a pic but it wont let me for some reason.
Finally loaded picture
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/dritypirate/pos.jpg
Quail Fat
09-11-2008, 23:55
The ejector is normal. They are supposed to be bent like that.
Does the recoil guide rod look normal?
Yep that's completely bent and broken.
Just kidding that's how they come from the factory. You might of put the guide rod in wrong and it caused the extra tension while working the action.
Range Guy
09-11-2008, 23:57
The ejector is normal. They are supposed to be bent like that.
Okay flimsy guide rod? What could have not went back in right to cause this? I removed stock slide plate put on aftermarket then this issue occured
Okay flimsy guide rod? What could have not went back in right to cause this? I removed stock slide plate put on aftermarket then this issue occured
When you did that did you take out the extractor plunger or anything? Sounds like something wasn't put back right.
Quail Fat
09-12-2008, 00:00
Okay flimsy guide rod? What could have not went back in right to cause this? I removed stock slide plate put on aftermarket then this issue occured
These aren't the droids yer looking for... j/k
Did you remove any other parts before reinstalling the slide plate cover?
Range Guy
09-12-2008, 00:02
Okay it all back together again. I put a loaded mag in rack the slide it puts one in the chamber. Rack the slide again to eject live round the slide will move back almost enough to eject it then stops. I have to drop the mag a rack the slide and then the round will eject
Okay it all back together again. I put a loaded mag in rack the slide it puts one in the chamber. Rack the slide again to eject live round the slide will move back almost enough to eject it then stops. I have to drop the mag a rack the slide and then the round will eject
Sounds alot like the firing pin safety catching on something.
Range Guy
09-12-2008, 00:05
These aren't the droids yer looking for... j/k
Did you remove any other parts before reinstalling the slide plate cover?
Field strip obviously to get gun apart in the glock book is said to be careful the firing pin assembly and extractor depressor plunger are compressed and be careful so parts dont come flying
when you cycle it, can you hear anything rubbing or dragging?
Range Guy:
I'm a Glock armorer in the north Seattle area. Regardless of these jokers and chain yankers, I'll look at it for you no cost. I want to make sure something else wasn't installed correctly or something is hanging up. PM me for a meet up. Will take less than 20 minutes.
Sounds alot like the firing pin safety catching on something.
That was my first guess, but I can't figure out what it could catch on. This might be it though.
green marauder
09-12-2008, 00:08
get an XD...
Heres one for sale, just dont run any more std. winchester rangers through it.......:rofl::rofl:
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn253/btownguy/0320081939.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn253/btownguy/0320081953.jpg
Glock4Life
09-12-2008, 00:09
Check out this diagram: http://glockmeister.com/pages.php?cID=3&pID=36
Take the cover plate back off and make sure parts 12,13,14 are all in tact that deal with the extractor depressor assembly.
HiredGun77
09-12-2008, 00:13
An easy way to remember which way the extractor rod goes is keep the plastic to the plastic and the metal to the metal.
Heres one for sale, just dont run any more std. winchester rangers through it.......:rofl::rofl:
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn253/btownguy/0320081939.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn253/btownguy/0320081953.jpg
Ouch..
If the firing pin safety was put in incorrectly it could be messing with the extractor and sticking out causing it to catch on something.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i79/dritypirate/pos.jpg
That's a lot of wear on your slide catch for only being a week old.
ETA: Although it's for a trigger job, HERE (http://www.alpharubicon.com/mrpoyz/glock/) is good info on how to disassemble and reassemble your Glock.
Range Guy
09-12-2008, 00:17
That's a lot of wear on your slide catch for only being a week old.
It has probably a thousands rounds through it
It has probably a thousands rounds through it
So does my 17 but it doesn't look like that. Either way, it's probably has nothing to do with your issue.
I added a link to my above comment. Check it out if you have questions on how to disassemble and reassemble your Glock.
AustinTx
09-12-2008, 00:22
I changed my slide plate out. So I figured I would put a mag in rack the slide a few times to make sure everything was okay. Well its not....the slide had to be yanked back to eject the round....Any suggestions?
I must have missed something here. Don't all pistols require the slide be yanked back, to eject a round?
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Glock4Life
09-12-2008, 00:22
You're back. So did you check your assembly? Is the spring loaded bearing present? Plunger in the correct orientation?
I must have missed something here. Don't all pistols require the slide be yanked back, to eject a round?
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Come on, this thread has enough spam already. :upeyes:
If you would have read more than the first post you would realize the problem the OP is having.
Quail Fat
09-12-2008, 00:32
Can you rack the slide all the way back with an empty magazine inserted into your pistol?
Try another magazine. I'm guessing your magazine lips may be messed up and the top most bullet in the magazine is poking up and somehow interferring with the bullet that is getting extracted.. ?
AustinTx
09-12-2008, 00:33
Come on, this thread has enough spam already. :upeyes:
If you would have read more than the first post you would realize the problem the OP is having.
I'm so very sorry that I missed it.
At
Quail Fat
09-12-2008, 00:35
Can an extracting case snag the top most bullet in the magazine?
The OP and I have talked on the phone in the last few. I think we have figured out a problem likely tied to the recoil spring assembly. Anyway, I'll send an assembly and we'll see how it goes. Slide cover plate is likely not the issue.
No problem actually chatting with the guy and trying to solve the problem folks.
Glock4Life
09-12-2008, 00:38
Can an extracting case snag the top most bullet in the magazine?
I'm guessing the problem is indeed the extractor but I think it may have to do with the depressor assembly. When cover plates are removed, those things often take a ride via the ED spring and people lose spring loaded bearings, install the plunger backwards etc causing extraction issues. Haven't heard back yet however.
I'm so very sorry that I missed it.
At
I usually could care less about all the GT morons and spam, but this guy couldn't get a straight answer for the first page and a half of his thread.
He's new to the board and gets treated like this? Oh how holy GT members have become.
Quail Fat
09-12-2008, 00:39
I'm guessing the problem is indeed the extractor but I think it may have to do with the depressor assembly. When cover plates are removed, those things often take a ride via the ED spring and people lose spring loaded bearings, install the plunger backwards etc causing extraction issues. Haven't heard back yet however.
Yes, but the problem disappears when the magazine is removed.
Range Guy
09-12-2008, 00:40
The OP and I have talked on the phone in the last few. I think we have figured out a problem likely tied to the recoil spring assembly. Anyway, I'll send an assembly and we'll see how it goes. Slide cover plate is likely not the issue.
No problem actually chatting with the guy and trying to solve the problem folks.
Thanks Morris. funny thing is ev eryone swears there Mr. King Glock. But only one guy took the time to act like a human being and genuinely help.
Glock4Life
09-12-2008, 00:41
Yes, but the problem disappears when the magazine is removed.
How the Hell did I miss that? Could still be true though if there were one in the chamber with a mag removed.
Glock4Life
09-12-2008, 00:42
So what was it?
Diagnosis by phone appears to be a buggered stock recoil spring assembly. I'll send him one and we'll see if that solves the problem. We walked through stripping the other components out of the slide and all appear ok so the firing pin safety isn't an issue.
We'll start with the easy part first.
Quail Fat
09-12-2008, 00:55
"Okay it all back together again. I put a loaded mag in rack the slide it puts one in the chamber. Rack the slide again to eject live round the slide will move back almost enough to eject it then stops. I have to drop the mag a rack the slide and then the round will eject"
The only thing that changes is the magazine.
Magazine in, slide won't move back.
Magazine out, slide will move back.
Did you try changing magazines?
Range Guy
09-12-2008, 01:00
"Okay it all back together again. I put a loaded mag in rack the slide it puts one in the chamber. Rack the slide again to eject live round the slide will move back almost enough to eject it then stops. I have to drop the mag a rack the slide and then the round will eject"
The only thing that changes is the magazine.
Magazine in, slide won't move back.
Magazine out, slide will move back.
Did you try changing magazines?
Tried both magazines. Same issue.
david3000
09-12-2008, 04:31
I'm sorry you're an idiot, really!
There are way too many juveniles on this forum.
david3000
09-12-2008, 04:43
Okay it all back together again. I put a loaded mag in rack the slide it puts one in the chamber. Rack the slide again to eject live round the slide will move back almost enough to eject it then stops. I have to drop the mag a rack the slide and then the round will eject
Please stop using live rounds!!! Get some A-Zoom snap caps for practice working the slide. Safety first!
3rdgen40
09-12-2008, 08:04
get an XD...
Whats an XD ? :headscratch:
3rdgen40
09-12-2008, 08:07
I'm guessing the ass-end of the new slide plate cover is dragging on something..
Dragging on what......air ? :dunno:
3rdgen40
09-12-2008, 08:08
Please stop using live rounds!!! Get some A-Zoom snap caps for practice working the slide. Safety first!
You're kidding......right ? :upeyes:
B Coyote
09-12-2008, 08:49
Tag.
I'm curious as to how this turns out.
bc
Razoreye
09-12-2008, 09:14
I'm not sure I get the OP's question.
Razoreye
09-12-2008, 09:17
Okay it all back together again. I put a loaded mag in rack the slide it puts one in the chamber. Rack the slide again to eject live round the slide will move back almost enough to eject it then stops. I have to drop the mag a rack the slide and then the round will eject
Oh, now that you explained it a little bit further it makes more sense. It sounds like a recoil rod thing to me. I don't see how the plunger or extractor would get caught up to prevent you from racking the slide. I'm not sure how having a round in the chamber might make it worse though.
I take that back, if the extractor isn't moving when the ejector pushes on it, it probably would take a lot of force to get the extractor to release the rim. Perhaps he did miss a spring or put in the plunger backwards.
Glock17GoBang
09-12-2008, 09:40
Thanks
Sorry, but dont listen to him...
Dont get the XD. Good gun but Glocks are my Fav. for many reasons... Also, Yes I Have Owned an XD!
Stay with a glock and take it to a gunsmith... Problem Solved...
Tailhunter
09-12-2008, 10:07
I think a good answer for everyone would be .... don't mess with that which you do not understand.
The OP could have done a better job of describing the problem he was having, but that does not mean that any of you have a right to act like jerks with him. These smart-ass comments here need to stop. Keep insulting others and don't be surprised if you find yourself unwelcome here.
OP, using special characters to bypass the bad word filter is not allowed. This was covered in the posting rules you read when you recently registered.
This forum, out of all the others on this site, is a resource forum for Glock owners. The topics posted here need to be serious, on-point and treated seriously. Don't insult or make fun of other posters, don't ***** because they didn't use the search function, don't say anything unless you have something meaningful to contribute. Thanks. Eric
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