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station32
09-12-2008, 21:37
What's the difference in recoil spring weights? What's the stock weight of a g 23 spring ? I'm looking for a spring weight to reduce felt recoil. Any suggestions?

AustinTx
09-12-2008, 21:52
I thought all Glocks had 17# recoil springs. If not, I'm about to learn something.
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sigcalcatrant
09-12-2008, 21:57
What's the difference in recoil spring weights? What's the stock weight of a g 23 spring ? I'm looking for a spring weight to reduce felt recoil. Any suggestions?Changing spring weights will have VERY little, if any, effect on felt recoil.

http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/GlockNF.html#G19Recoil

station32
09-13-2008, 13:48
so why change spring weights?

DannyR
09-13-2008, 13:50
The stock G19/G23/G32/G39 spring is 18#. Recoil is better managed through proper two-handed grip and stance.

JBP55
09-13-2008, 18:11
What's the difference in recoil spring weights? What's the stock weight of a g 23 spring ? I'm looking for a spring weight to reduce felt recoil. Any suggestions?

You may want to try a 15# or 16# spring. I like the 15# ISMI in G22/G35.

Civitas
09-13-2008, 19:58
I will disagree with everyone else here. A heavy spring does reduce felt recoil and for a G23 I would suggest a 22 lb. spring. I use a 20 lb spring on the G17 and a 24 lb spring with a G20. Using a heavy spring changes the timing of the recoil, giving more of a push that a snap. For many people this feels better. Glock chooses the minimal spring weight necessary to cycle the slide. This is obvious when you realize that the G17 (9mm) and the G20 (10mm) use the same weight spring.

When you use a heavy spring, it increases muzzle flip but I have found that a tungsten guiderod and/or an extended barrel (added weight up front) will eliminate the muzzle flip issue.

When you are breaking in a heavy spring, don't be worried if you get a few FTFs in the first magazine or two. After the spring breaks in , the gun will run just fine.

JBP55
09-13-2008, 21:07
I will disagree with everyone else here. A heavy spring does reduce felt recoil and for a G23 I would suggest a 22 lb. spring. I use a 20 lb spring on the G17 and a 24 lb spring with a G20. Using a heavy spring changes the timing of the recoil, giving more of a push that a snap. For many people this feels better. Glock chooses the minimal spring weight necessary to cycle the slide. This is obvious when you realize that the G17 (9mm) and the G20 (10mm) use the same weight spring.

When you use a heavy spring, it increases muzzle flip but I have found that a tungsten guiderod and/or an extended barrel (added weight up front) will eliminate the muzzle flip issue.

When you are breaking in a heavy spring, don't be worried if you get a few FTFs in the first magazine or two. After the spring breaks in , the gun will run just fine.

We shall agree to disagree.

StraitR
09-13-2008, 21:16
I will disagree with everyone else here. A heavy spring does reduce felt recoil and for a G23 I would suggest a 22 lb. spring. I use a 20 lb spring on the G17 and a 24 lb spring with a G20. Using a heavy spring changes the timing of the recoil, giving more of a push that a snap. For many people this feels better. Glock chooses the minimal spring weight necessary to cycle the slide. This is obvious when you realize that the G17 (9mm) and the G20 (10mm) use the same weight spring.

When you use a heavy spring, it increases muzzle flip but I have found that a tungsten guiderod and/or an extended barrel (added weight up front) will eliminate the muzzle flip issue.

When you are breaking in a heavy spring, don't be worried if you get a few FTFs in the first magazine or two. After the spring breaks in , the gun will run just fine.

Increased muzzle flip = increased felt recoil.

Civitas
09-13-2008, 23:26
Increased muzzle flip = increased felt recoil.
I guess you could call muzzle flip part of the felt recoil, but it's not a major part. And it can be offset with a heavier guiderod and/or barrel. Target shooters may not like the somewhat increased time to get back on target, but that is probably not the concern the OP has with recoil.

Many people don't like the snappy recoil of the .40s. My experience is with the G17 and G20. With those calibers, heavy springs eliminate or greatly reduce the snap of the recoil.

J.P.
09-14-2008, 02:53
I guess you could call muzzle flip part of the felt recoil, but it's not a major part. And it can be offset with a heavier guiderod and/or barrel. Target shooters may not like the somewhat increased time to get back on target, but that is probably not the concern the OP has with recoil.

Many people don't like the snappy recoil of the .40s. My experience is with the G17 and G20. With those calibers, heavy springs eliminate or greatly reduce the snap of the recoil.

I've never found a guide rod heavy enough to make any significant difference, and I damn sure wouldn't use a Tungsten rod in a defensive gun.

eh...I use lighter weight recoil springs and they reduce muzzle flip significantly.

Civitas
09-14-2008, 10:24
I've never found a guide rod heavy enough to make any significant difference, and I damn sure wouldn't use a Tungsten rod in a defensive gun.

eh...I use lighter weight recoil springs and they reduce muzzle flip significantly.
Don't know why you would be worried about a tungsten rod. I've never seen one break... I have used them in 4 different guns with no problems. You are correct that tungsten is more brittle than steel or plastic so if you drop a tungsten rod from a height on a hard surface... maybe it would crack. But it's not going to break while it's inside the gun, and even if it did, the pistol would continue to function.

Let me ask it this way. Have you ever had an intact tungsten rod break while inside a Glock in such a way that the gun would no longer function?

guns54
09-16-2008, 07:01
i never see were any one useing it in the 19, what good is it.

jbremount
09-16-2008, 08:33
I also use a 22lb recoil spring with a steel guide rod on my Glock 23. IMO, the Glock23 is undersprung as it uses the same recoil springs as the Glock19 which is a 9mm. The lighter spring has a faster slide movement with less initial recoil, but a harder jolt when the slide hits the frame. The heavier spring allows for a slower slide movement, ( more of a push feel, but more initial recoil)and causes the slide to contact the frame at the end of its cycle with less force. It also returns the slide to battery with more force, lessening the change of a out of battery firing with slightly out of spec ammo. I also think, with the heavier spring, the unlocking of the slide is somewhat retarded. A big big plus! This allows the brass to stay in the chamber longer and let off more pressure before leaving the chamber. You will get more consistant velocities if you chronograph your rounds. This is also a good thing with hot .40S&W or 10mm ammo!


(On my 1911, With light target low pressure .45acp loads, I run a lighter spring for a faster slide velocity and low initial recoil, but I also add a shock buffer. The fast slide hits the shock buffer at the end of it's travel and the buffer absorbs some of the energy the heavier spring would have absorbed.)

These are my hasty observations and opinions. With either the light or heavy springs, you will get used to it the more you shoot the gun.
YMMV

guns54
09-18-2008, 11:20
my grandson ordered the rod and spring from wolf ,they sent the 17, saying that was what the 19 used,iam going to try and trade them off for the 18#.have a nice day. chris

AustinTx
09-18-2008, 16:56
my grandson ordered the rod and spring from wolf ,they sent the 17, saying that was what the 19 used,iam going to try and trade them off for the 18#.have a nice day. chris

Just use your 17# spring. It won't cause damage or any other problem. I have no doubt that Wolff would exchange it but you don't need to.
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