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shooter757
09-13-2008, 10:58
I have a hard time believing that debris and a few small fires brought down building 7, especially since it imploded. I've taken a lot of physics classes, and I still have a hard time believing what the mainstreem media puts out there.
Improbable Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp_buA1HNUk
What Happenned to Building 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuJimaumW4
I don't think I would use the word "small" relating to anything surrounding the WTC. Believe what you want to believe. Nothing said by anyone here is going to change your mind. Nothing good ever comes out of these tin foil hat threads anyway.
If you want to blame someone, blame midgets and clowns. That's what I always do.
IndyGunFreak
09-13-2008, 11:02
I have a hard time believing that debris and a few small fires brought down building 7, especially since it imploded. I've taken a lot of physics classes, and I still have a hard time believing what the mainstreem media puts out there.
Improbable Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp_buA1HNUk
What Happenned to Building 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuJimaumW4
Well, after GW bombed the Twin Towers, he realized that might not be quite enough to inflame the American public in general, to allow him to attack Iraq and cause oil to spike and make him and his buddies rich, so he had VP Cheney find a person to go in and set explosives in Building 7, but wanted it timed to make sure everyone got out before it was brought down.
IGF
http://i17.tinypic.com/8f117h2.gif%5Dafbeelding
falsememory
09-13-2008, 11:06
If you want to blame someone, blame midgets and clowns. That's what I always do.
That there is funny.:rofl:
From what I understand it was the fire burning inside that took it down. The FD was not about to go into a building after loosing 343 firefighters earlier in the day trying to save two other buildings. They pretty much let it burn.
Of course there will be the tinfoil hat wearing crowd who will say steel doesn't burn. Yes it does not burn but it gets soft. Arson investigators have for years been able to figure out the point of origin of a fire in a steel framed building based on where the roof supports are the most bent. That is where it burnt the longest and most intense. You can probably do a google search and find numerous examples.
The real story behind Tower 7 is that Chuck Norris was masterbating in the bathroom. When he finished, so did the building.
NateHodge
09-13-2008, 11:08
I have nothing important to add to this thread other than I am sick and tired of seeing the Star Trek guy rolling under the door. Altaris, find something a little less played out.:wavey::tongueout:
Arson investigators have for years been able to figure out the point of origin of a fire in a steel framed building based on where the roof supports are the most bent. That is where it burnt the longest and most intense. You can probably do a google search and find numerous examples.
Metal, when heated to a weakening point, will tend to lean toward the source of heat that caused the deformation. Neat, huh? And it doesn't take melting metal to drop a building, just weakened metal.
Considering you did not say you agree with the theories. I dont believe I will be violating any TOS when I say anyone who believes in this crap should move their stupid arse to another country where you can feel safe from government oppression. And let us all know where that is.
And if you do happen to believe them I suggest you turn in any firearms that you own because you are a freaking lunatic.
shooter757
09-13-2008, 11:10
I don't think I would use the word "small" relating to anything surrounding the WTC. Believe what you want to believe. Nothing said by anyone here is going to change your mind. Nothing good ever comes out of these tin foil hat threads anyway.
If you want to blame someone, blame midgets and clowns. That's what I always do.
I don't think that's funny, I mean seriously. I think that it is very important for people to think critically and independently about everything. Too many people are led in a fog by the media or what the masses think.
I don't think that's funny, I mean seriously. I think that it is very important for people to think critically and independently about everything. Too many people are led in a fog by the media or what the masses think.
I know. I'm sorry. That is why I posted my serious comment about Chuck Norris. It really did happen.
KilgoreTrout
09-13-2008, 11:13
check your PMs shooter.
Are you part of an angry black church blaming Bush & the gov't for yet another catastrophe? There seems to be many of those lately since Rev. Wright made headlines.
PeterJasonMN
09-13-2008, 11:15
I should have invested money in Reynolds last week.
shooter757
09-13-2008, 11:18
Forget it. I wanted to have an intelligent discussion, but I guess that's not happenning. Thanks for your time folks.
cjlandry
09-13-2008, 11:19
Wow!
I've never looked at it in that way!
Thank you, Shooter757 for bringing this to my attention!
What sort of tin foil should I buy? I've heard Reynold's Wrap is fantastic, but I believe that's mostly due to shrewd marketing and subsequent popularity.
Which works best for you?
txinvestigator
09-13-2008, 11:20
I have a previously unreleased photo of George Bush's operative that planted explosives and felled WTC building 7;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/txinvestigator/Jokes/Wylie_TNT_City.jpg
cjlandry
09-13-2008, 11:20
Forget it. I wanted to have an intelligent discussion, but I guess that's not happenning. Thanks for your time folks.
This one's been done to death, man.
Sorry if we had a moment's fun at your expense. :wavey:
Just remember folks. Shiny side out.
Forget it. I wanted to have an intelligent discussion, but I guess that's not happenning. Thanks for your time folks.
Rosie O'Donnell is standing by, she understands.
I don't think that's funny, I mean seriously. I think that it is very important for people to think critically and independently about everything. Too many people are led in a fog by the media or what the masses think.
Critically and independently, sure. With paranoia or just listening to crackpots with a less-than-adequate grasp on physics, no.
PeterJasonMN
09-13-2008, 11:23
Forget it. I wanted to have an intelligent discussion, but I guess that's not happenning. Thanks for your time folks.
Discovery or one of those channels did a huge show just about Tower 7 this week. They'd interviewed everyone from first responders on scene to engineers, to the head of the investigation of why the tower came down. It all boiled down to the fact that what you saw on tv was not indicative of the damage that truly happened.
Think about when you see a shooting in a movie, compared what it looks like in real life.
Immense heat weakened one side of the building, metal started buckling, and boom.
I have nothing important to add to this thread other than I am sick and tired of seeing the Star Trek guy rolling under the door. Altaris, find something a little less played out.:wavey::tongueout:
That is the first time I have ever seen it. I'm not going to let you Jambog my IBTL pic!! :steamed:
:wavey:
I'm sure the ~40,000 gal. of diesel in various tanks on site didn't do anything to fuel the fires inside the building :upeyes:
The Pontificator
09-13-2008, 11:26
This is a job for...THE HARDLY BOYS:
http://users.commspeed.net/guzzi/images/Hardly%20Boys.jpg
"Oooh! I'm getting a RAGING clue!"
:rofl:
KilgoreTrout
09-13-2008, 11:28
This is a job for...THE HARDLY BOYS:
http://users.commspeed.net/guzzi/images/Hardly%20Boys.jpg
"Oooh! I'm getting a RAGING clue!"
:rofl:
Down!!! Ponti! Down!! HEEL!!
This is a job for...THE HARDLY BOYS:
http://users.commspeed.net/guzzi/images/Hardly%20Boys.jpg
"Oooh! I'm getting a RAGING clue!"
:rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl: That episode was awesome
The Pontificator
09-13-2008, 11:30
Never mind what brought down WTC building 7.
The real mystery? WHO DROPPED A DOOK IN THE URINAL?
Never mind what brought down WTC building 7.
The real mystery? WHO DROPPED A DOOK IN THE URINAL?
Open your eyes, Seek the truth, it is out there!
I think you will find your answers here.....
http://www.southparkzone.com/episodes/1009/Mystery-of-the-Urinal-Deuce.html
blown03'
09-13-2008, 11:33
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
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cjlandry
09-13-2008, 11:34
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
.
I didn't realize it was bunked.
Deradius
09-13-2008, 11:37
Forget it. I wanted to have an intelligent discussion, but I guess that's not happenning. Thanks for your time folks.
You didn't try to stimulate an intelligent discussion.
You took an idea that a lot of people find offensive on general principle, and posted it on a public message board, masquerading your views as healthy criticism of the "mainstreem" [SIC] media.
If you want to talk about critical thinking, let's talk about all of the things that can happen within yards of two massive airlines slamming into buildings. The kind of titantic forces involved here are much more substantial than "a little debris".
You're talking about tons of metal, stone, steel, and glass flying around at thousands of miles per hour, drenched in burning jet fuel.
That sounds like a fairly destructive situation to me.
The explanation that any surrounding buildings fell due to the combination of fire, flying chunks of building and plane, and possible other factors that are difficult to understand but that happen in extreme force situations, seems much more parsimonious to me than a conspiracy of any sort.
Forget it. I wanted to have an intelligent discussion, but I guess that's not happenning. Thanks for your time folks.
While we are at it can we have a intelligent conversation on how the story of the tree little pigs is a propaganda story propagated by the Freemasons.
I don't think I would use the word "small" relating to anything surrounding the WTC. Believe what you want to believe. Nothing said by anyone here is going to change your mind. Nothing good ever comes out of these tin foil hat threads anyway.
If you want to blame someone, blame midgets and clowns. That's what I always do.
On behalf of midgets and clowns everywhere, I take great offense at your comment. :rofl:
Tim
KilgoreTrout
09-13-2008, 11:42
On behalf of midgets and clowns everywhere, I take great offense at your comment. :rofl:
Tim
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k52/manning4840/clown.jpg
Fred Hansen
09-13-2008, 11:45
Just remember folks. Shiny side out.Au contraire mon frere! My extensive and exhaustive testing has shown that it is vital to fold one's foil in half - shiny side inside/outside - before affixing it to one's head with properly approved duck* tape. Then and only then can any stray Jupiter waves - which may enter through the mouth, thus piggybacking and/or skipping off of amalgam fillings, and subsequently causing dystopian frequency ranges to be achieved in one's medulla oblongata. And we all know what happens when dystopian frequency ranges are achieved in one's medulla oblongata!
Word to the wise my friends... fold.
* I did indeed say duck. Duct tape is for unthinking Bushbot rubes.
cjlandry
09-13-2008, 11:51
Au contraire mon frere! My extensive and exhaustive testing has shown that it is vital to fold one's foil in half - shiny side inside/outside - before affixing it to one's head with properly approved duck* tape. Then and only then can any stray Jupiter waves - which may enter through the mouth, thus piggybacking and/or skipping off of amalgam fillings, and subsequently causing dystopian frequency ranges to be achieved in one's medulla oblongata. And we all know what happens when dystopian frequency ranges are achieved in one's medulla oblongata!
Word to the wise my friends... fold.
* I did indeed say duck. Duct tape is for unthinking Bushbot rubes.
I had no idea I could learn so much from a bunch of plastic pistol aficionados. I think I'll come back to this Glock Talk forum thingy more often!
aomagrat
09-13-2008, 11:52
Two 100 story buildings fell on it. What the hell did you expect to happen.
Two 100 story buildings fell on it. What the hell did you expect to happen.
Nothing, until Chuck got finished with it.
Zombie Steve
09-13-2008, 12:02
How many times do I have to tell you guys? Bush set the charges in building 7 because he needed a practice run before he halo jumped into hurricane Katrina to blow up the levees.
Jeeeez.
:tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil:
Open your eyes, Seek the truth, it is out there!
I think you will find your answers here.....
http://www.southparkzone.com/episodes/1009/Mystery-of-the-Urinal-Deuce.html
Finally, I now understand...
Fred Hansen
09-13-2008, 12:06
I had no idea I could learn so much from a bunch of plastic pistol aficionados. I think I'll come back to this Glock Talk forum thingy more often!Trust me CJ. I'm like a genius or somethin'.
cjlandry
09-13-2008, 12:12
Trust me CJ. I'm like a genius or somethin'.
Yeah, I know.
But I still miss the damned pirate chihuahua.
Check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8
It explains exactly what happened at WTC 7 and why it's collapse was no surprise.
Specifically dealing with the controlled demo idea, do me a favor and watch and more importantly listen to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7hkYt6BS5E
Did you hear the blasts? Go find any other video of a controlled demo and you'll hear the same thing. If you find any video of WTC 7, or the towers for that matter, where you can hear the blasts going off, I'll eat my hat.
This guys whole channel is full of videos that successfully debunk every 9-11 truther claim that has been made.
http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4
Fred Hansen
09-13-2008, 12:16
Yeah, I know.
But I still miss the damned pirate chihuahua.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Really, this is the last time. I'm not kidding....http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
Quick Instructions For Building An AFDB
Step 1 Step 2
1 Get a five foot sheet of aluminum foil (standard one foot wide Reynolds Wrap brand will do nicely.)
2 Fold the sheet four times into five equal segments so that you end up with a 1x1 foot square, making sure that you fold over the dull side of the foil leaving the square shiny on both sides.
Step 3 Step 4
3 Use scissors to cut from one corner of the square to the center, making a straight line.
4 Bend the foil from one side of the cut under the other, making a slight cone. Again, make sure that the outside of the cone has a shiny side of the foil; this is VERY important.
Step 5 Step 6
5 Place the cone on your head and squash the top and sides to make it fit snugly.
6 Apply Scotch tape liberally making sure to secure the cut in the foil and any form-fitting creases made in step 5.
Step 7
7 Use more tape to secure AFDB to your cranium.
A Note About The Shiny Side:
It can't be stressed enough how important it is to have the shiny side pointing out. This is needed because the shiny side is most reflective to psychotronic radiation, while the dull side can actually, in certain environmental conditions, absorb it. However, as is illustrated in the instructions above, it is also wise to complement this with a layer of foil pointing shiny side in. This will keep your brain waves, which are also reflected by the shiny side, from being picked up by mind-reading equipment. There is a small number of aluminum foil researchers who believe that this may cause an alpha-wave harmonic to build up in the skull resulting in memory loss or pseudo-religious visions, but their findings have never been replicated by the aluminum foil research community at large. Even if their findings are validated, the risk involved is small compared to the potential of mind-intrusion.
Foil Thickness:
How thick is your aluminum foil? Find out using the ZPi Aluminum Foil Thickness Calculator. If you do not have Javascript, use this formula (with grams and centimeters):
((mass / 2.702) / (width * length)) * 10000 = thickness in microns
If your foil is less than 16 microns, increase the number of layers used in construction.
Optional:
You may augment your AFDB with random bits of foil, wire, small electronic parts, etc..
Canadian coins should also be considered as they are high in nickel content. Nickel, while not having the psychotronic deflecting properties of aluminum (or even tin), can act to refract psychotronic beams, thereby helping to scrambling the mind control signals as they are deflected off of the underlying aluminum surface of the AFDB. This will result in a lowered chance of retransmission of the signal.
However, you should avoid American and European coins at all costs as they contain aluminum based mind control circuitry. Canadian coins are free of this threat mainly due to the Canadian government's choice of neglecting psychotronic research in favor of research into giant robotics.
Tips:
* Tinsel is made of plastic and has no anti-psychotronic attributes.
* Painting your AFDB won't degrade its abilities, so you can be mentally safe AND color-coordinated too! (However, see Corrosion in the maintenance section for important note about latex paint.)
* "Beer can hats", though made out of aluminum cans, are not as effective as an AFDB since they have gaps inbetween the cans. You may, however, line a beer can hat with an AFDB or even glue the cans directly on an AFDB.
Considering you did not say you agree with the theories. I dont believe I will be violating any TOS when I say anyone who believes in this crap should move their stupid arse to another country where you can feel safe from government oppression. And let us all know where that is.
And if you do happen to believe them I suggest you turn in any firearms that you own because you are a freaking lunatic.
Yup!!
Really, this is the last time. I'm not kidding....http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
You guys do know that tin foil hats are actually another tool of the government to be able to read your thoughts right?
Some guys at MIT proved it:
http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
Abstract
Among a fringe community of paranoids, aluminum helmets serve as the protective measure of choice against invasive radio signals. We investigate the efficacy of three aluminum helmet designs on a sample group of four individuals. Using a $250,000 network analyser, we find that although on average all helmets attenuate invasive radio frequencies in either directions (either emanating from an outside source, or emanating from the cranium of the subject), certain frequencies are in fact greatly amplified. These amplified frequencies coincide with radio bands reserved for government use according to the Federal Communication Commission (FCC). Statistical evidence suggests the use of helmets may in fact enhance the government's invasive abilities. We speculate that the government may in fact have started the helmet craze for this reason.
Of course, by me posting this information, I will probably have black helicopters descending on my location is a matter of minutes. It was nice talking to you guys!
AZ DBLTRBL
09-13-2008, 12:27
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k52/manning4840/clown.jpg
To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kinda scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus and a clown killed my dad.
blown03'
09-13-2008, 12:29
These are gr8 if you haven't seen them, the loose change kids get pwned!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d0XEHahJ2Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Fm3Zc7D8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpckijMVe3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEg6XEP-Cig
I had no idea I could learn so much from a bunch of plastic pistol aficionados. I think I'll come back to this Glock Talk forum thingy more often!
Told you so! Stick around for the election hijinks...bring some popcorn AND some tinfoil.
:supergrin:
Thunderhawk88
09-13-2008, 13:07
How many times do I have to tell you guys? Bush set the charges in building 7
True, but he has to share the blame. Dick Cheney ignited the fuse with a shotgun blast. :tinfoil:
Clyde in CO
09-13-2008, 13:15
People that think that fire can not bring down buildings, or that buildings are somehow permanent structures that can only be demolished with explosives, are idiots.
If you want to blame someone, blame midgets and clowns. That's what I always do.
Monkeys, pirates, and ninjas are my scapegoats of choice.
NYC Drew
09-13-2008, 14:00
Two MONTHS after 9/11, I had to go to the INS building over near city hall.
When the subway was about ONE MILE from our stop, I began to notice the smell of burning brakes. The smell persisted for two stops, and got stronger, which is unusual.
Once the doors opened at our stop, we were almost overpowered by this god awful stench of burning brakes.
And then it hit me. I was smelling the burnt out buildings 1/3 of a mile away.
'Drew
glock509
09-13-2008, 14:01
there was also a broken high pressure gas line running under the building that also helped in the intense fire and resulting heat.if any one wants to learn firefighting 101 let me know as it explains how these buildings and others collapse. or if you think it was faked ask a FDNY member about it.you can also go to firehouse.com and check out their page on 9/11.its good that i havnt met one of these idiots in real life because i didnt like jail when i worked in one.
http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/therealhijackers.jpg
:whistling:
Annoyedgrunt
09-13-2008, 14:35
I'm really kinda surprised that it's been three pages and Operator 12 hasn't shown up. He's usually all over these dumbass 9/11 conspiracy threads. Come to think of it, these threads are the only time I've ever seen him post. Coincidence? I think not. :rofl:
The Pontificator
09-13-2008, 14:35
To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kinda scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus and a clown killed my dad.
Thank you, Jack Handey. :wavey:
AZ DBLTRBL
09-13-2008, 14:50
Thank you, Jack Handey. :wavey:
Gotta love the guy.....:cool:
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