Well I got my new G32 =(

[glock_star]

and took it out to the range last night and it FTF about 20% of the time (about 2 rounds of every mag). :steamed:

It seem not return to battery fully for the next shot! I have to push the slide forward alittle in order to get it engaged again.

I've fired many glocks (I fired a G17, G19, and G23) before I bought my own and I'm certain that I'm not limp wristing it. I also checked my ammo (speer) they slip into the chamber without issue.

Whats going on?

[davebloomer]

i know this doesn't help you but is it a new gun or new to you?
i hope you get this fixed as i would be very bummed about something like this. Good Luck:wavey:

[mongo356]

When I first bought my 32 I thought it was picky about ammo type. I was getting FTF on Speer ammo Golddots and Lawman.

I tried Win ammo and Corbon HP's and the problem seemed to go away.

Later I read that it may have been due to using 10rd mags...honestly this may be the case( I'm using 13rd mags now) but I still havn't tried any speer ammo with the 13 rd mags.

FWIW just a couple thoughts sometimes.... although rare you can still get a week spring from the factory.

Are the malfunctions happening with different mags or just one??

[J1Z06]

Funny, the first mags that went through my 32c we're all hollow points(hornady and federal).13rd mags. No problems. Maybe it's a magazine problem? See if someone else has a mag you can try?

[glock_star]

I cleaned and oiled it and shot another 100 rds through it today. Again 5 FTF's now. This thing is brand spankin new, the test cases were shot in July, 2008. I tried both of my 10 rd mags as I can't have 13 rds here in Cali (i know, hold your condolences pls). It seems to have trouble returning to battery right before the trigger reset. It got better from yesterday, but is there supposed to be a "break-in period" for glocks?

[DannyR]

Try some different ammo.

[hollow10mm]

i just test fired my brand new g-32 friday, and with the 400 rounds i put downrange, i had 0 failures of any kind. No FTF, FTE, stovepiping, locking back on a loaded slide, nothing but perfection, i am in love with mine already. I was shooting WWB 125 grain FMJ, and will be testing 150 rounds of doubletap 125 jhp on monday for my carry load.

[djl240]

There's NO WAY a bottleneck cartridge should be FTF... ESPECIALLY in a Glock! Something specific is causing these malfunctions... And I'm sure it'll run 100% when you find out what.

[glock_star]

i am in love with mine already. I was shooting WWB 125 grain FMJ, and will be testing 150 rounds of doubletap 125 jhp on monday for my carry load.

I'm glad to here somebody is... I guess I'll have to try different ammo. but again all the rounds chamber fine, They are just not firing because of light hamer strikes or just a click (due to the slide not fully returning) as if my recoil spring is weak, I looked up the test for the recoil spring concluded that it's infact pretty strong.

[DannyR]

There are but a very few reasons why your slide will not close:

1. Weak ammo
2. Out of spec ammo
3. operator thumb riding the slide
4. poor grip and stance
5. worn out recoil spring

Take out the barrel and chamber check each round in your box(es) of ammo before you go to the range again. Each round should drop in completely, and fall out unassisted when you invert the barrel. Your Glock was test fired 5 rounds before leaving Smyrna.

If you detail-stripped your slide, now's the time to 'fess up.

[mickdundie]

I'm glad to here somebody is... I guess I'll have to try different ammo. but again all the rounds chamber fine, They are just not firing because of light hamer strikes or just a click (due to the slide not fully returning) as if my recoil spring is weak, I looked up the test for the recoil spring concluded that it's infact pretty strong.

Now you described a second problem. A very dangerous one!!

You trigger should not pull, and you should not here a click, if you gun is not in battery!!

If it is FTF, and the trigger will pull and drop the pin with the slide not locked into battery...DO NOT SHOOT THE GUN. Send it directly back to GLOCK!! That is the formula for a KB

Mick:thumbsup:

[GMAN40]

Trade it for a G17.:supergrin:

[Pierre!]

I didn't read that you cleaned and lubed the "new" pistol... you should probably give it a good cleaning too.

With new pistols a certain ammount of burnishing goes on in the first couple hundred rounds. If it's not clean, you may be burnishing the wrong things. A small piece of crud can cause you issues. Be sure you get the firing pin channel too!

HTH

[H&K .45 AUTO]

All I can tell you is that what you describe with your new G32 is not normal. I have a G31 and a G33 and have never had a single malfunction from either of them. I have also owned a G17, G19, and G23 in the past and experienced no malfunctions with any of them either.

My experience with Glock pistols has been that they are superb with regard to reliability. The problems you describe with yours would be enough reason for me to send one back for repair. It simply isn't normal for a Glock, and I'd find it to be unacceptable. Best of luck to you.

[blackbmw]

Never had an issue with my 32. thats the worst feeling when your new baby doesnt perform as expected. hope its something small and easy.......

[glock_star]

Now you described a second problem. A very dangerous one!!

You trigger should not pull, and you should not here a click, if you gun is not in battery!!

If it is FTF, and the trigger will pull and drop the pin with the slide not locked into battery...DO NOT SHOOT THE GUN. Send it directly back to GLOCK!! That is the formula for a KB

Mick:thumbsup:


yeah, ur right the trigger will pull and the pin will fire when i rack the slide and retun it slightly out of battery. Son of a B! I tested my Speer reloads with the barrel out of the gun and they slip in and out of the chamber easily. I did not detail strip the slide, I don't know how. Damn, bad first Glock experience. Makes me wish I got a CZ P01 instead... j/k... well...:dunno:

[Jason607]

Something is wrong, see if where you bought it will trade it out, or send it back to Glock. Either way it will be fixed.

[unit1069]

The owner's manual say inspect, clean and lube the pistol before shooting. I followed these instructions with my G-32 and shot 125-grain WWB and Remington FMJ for the first 200 or so rounds before going to JHP.

My Glock has shot a number of different ammos of different weights and designs and it has been absolutely perfect in every respect. The only pistol I've ever had major problems with was the one I shot right out of the box.

[mongo356]

If you are using re-loaded Speer ammo I would take a serious look at trying some factory ammo.

It can be somewhat tricky to re-load the 357sig cartridge. An out of spec shoulder which can happen with the 357Sig could possibly keep the slide from returning all the way.

You might give some factory ammo a shot...Win, Rem, Speer, Fed, Corbon, Hornady...

[chriswolfe1968]

When it does not got "fully" into battery, when does this happen? What I am getting at is it after you have fired a couple rounds or when your slide locks back, you insert a new mag, and try to release the slide. It may be possible when you use your weak hand to pull back on the slide to release it your riding it, causing it to stick a bit. Just a thought.

Let us know.

[glock_star]

When it does not got "fully" into battery, when does this happen? What I am getting at is it after you have fired a couple rounds or when your slide locks back, you insert a new mag, and try to release the slide. It may be possible when you use your weak hand to pull back on the slide to release it your riding it, causing it to stick a bit. Just a thought.

Let us know.

It happens in the middle of a set, first few shots are fine, then... CLICK, and I see that the slide is not all the way forward, a couple times i pushed it forward then pulled the trigger again and BANG, it shot.

Question for you guys, during the action, when does the trigger typically reset?

[Spike32]

I have sent over 500 rounds downrange in my 32, and never had a FTF except with a piece of crap tungsten guide rod. Put the stock rod back in and the pistol rocks...never a failure with any kind of ammo.

[Aeroscoper]

There's a very specific issue going on, and it's not something you should feel you need to just "get the hang" of. I have a hard time believe it has anything to do with cleaning or lubing, or your ammo, if it's factory loaded stuff.

The usual suspects would be your magazines, or your recoil spring. It might be an out of spec barrel or slide or something but those are extremely rare. But as someone else said, once you find out, you'll most likely never have another issue with it.

I have a G31 and G33 and have never had a failure of any kind, even while attempting to test the limits of limp-wristing. It just wouldn't fail.

Good luck.

[PAGunner]

Something is wrong, see if where you bought it will trade it out, or send it back to Glock. Either way it will be fixed.

+1, something is seriously wrong, this type of problem doesn't make any sense, something is not right.

[Woodsy]

Its basically already been said, but you need to go through the processes required to send your pistol back to glock so they can make this right. It is not "normal" or a "kink" that you need to work out, it is a seriously defect.

Good luck with it. :wavey:

[azdave]

I have owned Glocks since the late 80's....literally dozens of various models.

I currently own 5...........NEVER a malfunction, and I shoot minimum, once a week.

SO.........you can imagine my surprise when last weekend my low round count, like new 23 did a FTF:shocked:

I was literally shocked for a few...........then thought...what the Hell, it was a good run but had to happen eventually.

Ran about 75 more rounds thru it, no problems...I will trust my life to it....just a fluke.

NOW...what you are experiencing is not a "fluke". But, I would make one more range trip and scrutinize things before sending it in.

My 32 has never missed a beat....nor has my 19, 26, or 31 that I have... or the 17's, 20's, 21's, 30's or 36's I've previously owned:supergrin:

It's man made...they all can't be perfect.

[J.P.]

I think this is one of those cases where a lot of us wish we could get our hands on it for a quick range session to determine the problem for you...

Am I lyin'?
:dunno:

[mercury0_0]

I think this is one of those cases where a lot of us wish we could get our hands on it for a quick range session to determine the problem for you...

Am I lyin'?
:dunno:

Exactly, I'd love to get it, test it, figure it out, and fix it. I have the knack. I'm sure I could do it.:wavey:

[glock_star]

I think this is one of those cases where a lot of us wish we could get our hands on it for a quick range session to determine the problem for you...

Am I lyin'?
:dunno:

Yeah, that would be nice, pm me if any one's local to insight (artesia, ca), sharpshooters (torrence, ca) or LAGC (los angeles).

BTW, How much more could I expect to spend on this whole ordeal of sending it back to Glock?

[GhillieGlock]

Yeah, that would be nice, pm me if any one's local to insight (artesia, ca), sharpshooters (torrence, ca) or LAGC (los angeles).

BTW, How much more could I expect to spend on this whole ordeal of sending it back to Glock?

I believe that all you have to pay for is shipping to Glock (and maybee back) but they won't charge you to fix the gun.:supergrin:

[J.P.]

Yeah, that would be nice, pm me if any one's local to insight (artesia, ca), sharpshooters (torrence, ca) or LAGC (los angeles).

BTW, How much more could I expect to spend on this whole ordeal of sending it back to Glock?

In my experience, $30-$60 for shipping to Glock who unlike other manufacturers will not usually cover shipping on their own defective items.:shocked:

[DannyR]

You could take it to the GSSF (Glock) match in Piru, CA on November 01-02 and have a factory armorer check it and test it for you, free of all charges. Map and dates at www.gssfonline.com

[fortyofforty]

Obviously, I'm not alone when I contend that this in unacceptible and not normal. No GLOCK should fail to fire when new, with or without prior cleaning, with any decent, factory ammunition. Send it back to GLOCK. Also, first do the quick recoil spring test with the pistol unloaded, just to see if that is the root of the problem.

[grenadier]

Have you tried a different magazine?

[DannyR]

It's not a magazine issue. I'd suggest trying a new trigger bar. One slightly out of spec could possibly cause the problem the author is experiencing.

[glock_star]

It's not a magazine issue. I'd suggest trying a new trigger bar. One slightly out of spec could possibly cause the problem the author is experiencing.

You know Danny, you make some really great suggestions. thank you. I've wanted to attend one of the GSSF events anyway and if the onsite armorer could figure it out, it would save me the $60 shipping cost and possibly my reason to sell my G32 in favor of a CZ. :whistling:

Also, your trigger bar theory is very compelling because when i first brought the the gun home, my brother was trying to show me how to take off the slide, but he forgot to pull the trigger before hand and was pushing it forward thinking it was stuck. :steamed:

[DannyR]

Trust me, the factory armorer will have your pistol running in 5 minutes, and for free. Sadly, he cannot help you with your brother.

[glock_star]

Brooding over it this afternoon, I very carefully simulated the action slowly chambering couple rounds. I noticed that if I kept the trigger held down after "recoil", it would snag slightly a 1/2 inch before the slide completely closes, thats about where it happens too. Is that normal?

[glock_star]

Well, I detail stripped the slide to just see whats up, and I cleaned out all the crud w/ compressed air and re-oiled all the surfaces. I'll go out to the range today and report back.

[Mr. G32]

sorry your haven so much trouble wit your new g32, i shoot winchester and havent had an FTF so far, hope things get better.

[kimberguy2004]

Since it goes into battery with just a little nudge and if that's all it does with no misfeeds, not extracting properly, I'm suspecting an incorrectly fitted barrel with the barrel hood interfering with the slide as it goes into battery.. It would be a quick fix if you can find a local armorer..

[B Coyote]

Tag. This is an interesting thread and I'd like to see how it turns out.

bc

[Aeroscoper]

While cleaning it out, did you check to see if your trigger bar seemed bent or out of shape at all? With your brother story and your observations into the mix, seems the likely candidate at this point.

[glock_star]

While cleaning it out, did you check to see if your trigger bar seemed bent or out of shape at all? With your brother story and your observations into the mix, seems the likely candidate at this point.

yeah, I was examining the trigger bar with the slide off and it seems to look ok and function properly, but then again I have limited experience troubleshooting these things. Not much force was applied during that incident.:rofl:

[technobro]

For what it's worth, I had a similar issue with my G19 when I got it. After shooting a few hundred rounds it completely stopped being an issue. Possibly run 200-500 rounds through and see what happens?

[bryceban]

If your brother tried to remove the slide w/out pulling the trigger 1st, then the striker more than likely bent the trigger bar up just slightly enough to cause the exact problems you are describing. It would not take much forward force on the slide to accomplish this. I am almost certain that your trigger bar is bent upwards slightly.

[dixie27]

Its an known issue......u need 11 coil mag springs......u prob. have 10 coil, call glock and they will send u new 11 coil springs.....

[bryceban]

Its an known issue......u need 11 coil mag springs......u prob. have 10 coil, call glock and they will send u new 11 coil springs.....

I don't think his issue is so much a FTFeed as it is a FTFire.

[glock_star]

Wierd...

I just got back from the range and... well... I'll let you decied for your self...

I shot all of these in order consecutively (10 rd mags)
- 10 speer reloads (#8 FTFire)
- 40 wwb (no issues)
- 40 winclean (no issues)
- 20 speer reloads (no issues...)

So out of a 110 rounds, 1 FTF during the first mag

As for the one FTF, again the slide did not go all the way forward after the action, about 1/4 inch away from locking into battery. I think, during this time the trigger did not reset. :dunno:

[GhillieGlock]

Wierd...

I just got back from the range and... well... I'll let you decied for your self...

I shot all of these in order consecutively (10 rd mags)
- 10 speer reloads (#8 FTFire)
- 40 wwb (no issues)
- 40 winclean (no issues)
- 20 speer reloads (no issues...)

So out of a 110 rounds, 1 FTF during the first mag

As for the one FTF, again the slide did not go all the way forward after the action, about 1/4 inch away from locking into battery. I think, during this time the trigger did not reset. :dunno:


Iv'e shot hundreds (actually thousands) of WWB through my G21 without one malfunction. I shot 20 rounds (two 10 round mags) of golden saber hollow points and the second mag the slide didn't lock all the way in place (exactly like your problem). What does this mean? That ammo doesn't work in my gun, simple as that. I'm picking up a 32 on saturday (i'm still cooling off) and thats all I plan on running through it is WWB.:cool:

[bryceban]

Wierd...

I just got back from the range and... well... I'll let you decied for your self...

I shot all of these in order consecutively (10 rd mags)
- 10 speer reloads (#8 FTFire)
- 40 wwb (no issues)
- 40 winclean (no issues)
- 20 speer reloads (no issues...)

So out of a 110 rounds, 1 FTF during the first mag

As for the one FTF, again the slide did not go all the way forward after the action, about 1/4 inch away from locking into battery. I think, during this time the trigger did not reset. :dunno:

Looks like the Speer GD reloads maybe the problem, afterall the .357 sig is hard to reload for.

[glock_star]

For what it's worth, I had a similar issue with my G19 when I got it. After shooting a few hundred rounds it completely stopped being an issue. Possibly run 200-500 rounds through and see what happens?

Yeah, I'm thinking my glock had a more evident "Break-in" period than most.

Range visits:
1st, 50 rd Speer rlds, 10 FTF's, (%20 Failure)
2nd, 100 rd Speer rlds, 5 FTF's, (%5 Failure)
3rd, 110 rd, Speer/wwb 1 FTF (>%1 Failure)

And I guess I can't expect perfection out of reloads either... well, My revolver never did that! LOL

[DannyR]

I'd ditch the reloads.:whistling:

[B Coyote]

I'd ditch the reloads.:whistling:

+1.

bc

[Hydra-SHOKz]

Yeah, that would be nice, pm me if any one's local to insight (artesia, ca), sharpshooters (torrence, ca) or LAGC (los angeles).

BTW, How much more could I expect to spend on this whole ordeal of sending it back to Glock?


I just moved to Redondo Beach on Sunday.Seems I'm just a few mintutes away from Sharpshooters.I plan on checking them out today.I'd be happy to check your 32 out for you.

My G32 is the only pistol I have ever owned that has never malfuntioned.

[glock_star]

That would be great, pm me when your in the area, Sharpshooters is one of the only ranges that does'nt mind rapid fire. =)

On the ammo issue, Whats intresting is that the test rounds that Glock Symrna used was Speer (cases) probably not reloads though... BTW should I risk getting these factory Speer rds from Ammmoman (http://www.ammoman.com/webstore_357_sig.htm).com (1000 for $289 shipped)?

[bryceban]

On the ammo issue, Whats intresting is that the test rounds that Glock Symrna used was Speer (cases) probably not reloads though... BTW should I risk getting these factory Speer rds from Ammmoman (http://www.ammoman.com/webstore_357_sig.htm).com (1000 for $289 shipped)?

Those ar GTG. Good price also.

[Aeroscoper]

Reloads...

[Hydra-SHOKz]

$14.45 a box sounds like a good deal.Let me know next time you're going out there.

[J.P.]

post #6:
"Try some different ammo"

:supergrin: