how on earth did the D.A. come up with this charge?!

[cowboywannabe]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,422181,00.html

[cowboywannabe]

DELTONA, Fla. — An angry Deltona father whacked his teenage daughter's boyfriend with a metal pipe after finding the boy naked in his daughter's room.

Authorities say the father, 45, didn't even know his daughter had a boyfriend or that the youngster had been sneaking into the home for more than a year.

When he heard noises coming from his daughter's bedroom Thursday morning and saw a stranger standing naked on the girl's bed, he swung a metal pipe. He then chased the teen out the front door and called police.
The boy was taken to the hospital where doctors closed a head wound with staples.

The father was charged with aggravated battery on a child and bonded out on $10,000.

[PeterJasonMN]

Maybe he used the Search function to find the applicable statute?





:wavey:

[troy96]

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=922441

[KilgoreTrout]

Maybe he used the Search function to find the applicable statute?





:wavey:
:rofl:

[Squaw Man Wolfer]

EDITED

The boy was taken to the hospital where doctors closed a head wound with staples.



The father struck him in the HEAD?

The head of what?

[KilgoreTrout]

The father struck him in the HEAD?

The head of what?

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[crazymoose]

He was naked and obviously unarmed, and the daughter probably did not seem to have been forced into anything. If anything, he should get charged with attempted murder.

[cowboywannabe]

so, hes in Fl. which has a stand your ground, make my day, castle doctrine law.....

sees a naked man unkown to him in his daughter's bedroom, and strikes him with a metal pipe while he was defending his daughter from a forcible felony and his home from a burglary of an occupied dwelling....

thats how i see this guy beating this B.S. charge.

[ERASER]

so, hes in Fl. which has a stand your ground, make my day, castle doctrine law.....

sees a naked man unkown to him in his daughter's bedroom, and strikes him with a metal pipe while he was defending his daughter from a forcible felony and his home from a burglary of an occupied dwelling....

thats how i see this guy beating this B.S. charge.

+1. This "minor" wasn't acting like a child. He's lucky dad didn't have a gun.

[HollowHead]

Ah, the kid was invited in. I hope Daddy does time...HH

[Cali-Glock]

That kid should count himself lucky.
The DA should be kicked out office.
The daughter should have her hide tanned.
I'd like to buy the dad a beer.

[sigpro357]

I think that is where the problems lies. If they daughter invited the boy in then he is a guest of the house whether the father knew about it or not. Imagine this. Your wife invites a neighbor over for lunch. She goes to the bathroom. You come home and there is a stranger sitting on your couch. Do you draw and shoot them. And if you do don't you think there is gonna be trouble.

It's an example of why you must know your kids, and family and explain to them the danger of such situations.

[itisbruno]

Maybe he used the Search function to find the applicable statute?





:wavey:

That is so full of win.

[Mnukedude]

From what I know of the story, it apears the young man in question was the young ladies' boyfriend. Obviously their relationship had reached a point where they felt they needed some time in bed together to truly express their feelings for each other. There was no screaming or signs of a struggle, so it appears the young lady was willing. Of course, this is the type of situation that pisses off lots of dads. After all, how many of us have heard stories about young women being abandoned by their boyfriends as soon as they get pregnant?

All that said, in a situation like this, for reasons that go way beyond the criminal charges the father is now facing, there are better ways to deal with this than threatening bodily harm that will be more likely to garner enough respect from both the daughter and the young man to solve the problem without the need for bloodshed.

[ERASER]

I think that is where the problems lies. If they daughter invited the boy in then he is a guest of the house whether the father knew about it or not. Imagine this. Your wife invites a neighbor over for lunch. She goes to the bathroom. You come home and there is a stranger sitting on your couch. Do you draw and shoot them. And if you do don't you think there is gonna be trouble.

It's an example of why you must know your kids, and family and explain to them the danger of such situations.

I think there's a bit of a difference between your clothed neighbor sitting on your couch with a beer in his hand and a naked stranger standing over your daughter in the middle of the night with his wang in his hand.

[doktarZues]

Ah, the kid was invited in. I hope Daddy does time...HH

The little b*****d knew he shouldn't be there. Obviously old enough to know better. In some places some cultures things of this sort are OK or even boasted about, in adult circles mind you. In other places other cultures little mr. casanova gets a pipe to the head. Not sure where you're coming from, or maybe I missed the sarcasm, but dad should be commended for only bludgeoning him upside the head and not choking him to death.

[ERASER]

That kid should count himself lucky.
The DA should be kicked out office.
The daughter should have her hide tanned.
I'd like to buy the dad a beer.


+1. The "kid" got lucky.

[Thunderhawk88]

This is like the worst possible scenario a father could face. He is, he believes, defending his daughter from a sexual attack. It's a damned if you do-damned if you don't situation!

[cowboywannabe]

again, so many folks are armchair quaterbacking the same situation the home owner/father had seconds to act.

and the same armchair folks are changing the scenario to something that fits thier beliefs....and adding details not shown from the article....

bottom line, the home owner/father saw a naked man he did not know in his daughter's bedroom standing over her. he had one second to act regarding a percieved home invasion/rape/burglary.

this happened in the state of Florida where the LAW is on the home owner's/father's side if the article presented is accurate.

the D.A. can charge anyone with anything based on his ego for convictions regardless of right or wrong. the grand jury is made up of folks not smart enough to get out of jury duty and frankly would indict a ham sandwich if lead to do so by the D.A.

this man will not see a conviction on his record unless there is more to the story than what is presented so far.

[S.O.Interceptor]

Poor dad. If I was the investigating officer I would have asked the dad if he wanted the guy charged with criminal trespass of a habitation, issued a criminal trespass warning against junior, then drug him home to his folks for an ***-whipping.

He was naked and obviously unarmed, and the daughter probably did not seem to have been forced into anything. If anything, he should get charged with attempted murder.

:upeyes: Amazing. A naked boy/man(who knows how old he looks, no one in the media seems capable of telling us how old anyone involved is, other than the father) is found in the man's home and you want him charged with attempting to "murder" the trespasser?

Ah, the kid was invited in. I hope Daddy does time...HH

Does time for what? Defending his home again a trespasser whom he believed to possibly be committing a sex crime in his own home?

Since the media is not stating any information about any of the teenagers I'm willing to bet they are all under age.

An underage CHILD CAN NOT give consent to enter HER PARENT'S home without permission. She could not consent and obviously did not have permission from the parents, therefore he was trespassing and he knew it. He took the chance to get laid and got a pipe laid upside his head.

That kid should count himself lucky.
The DA should be kicked out office.
The daughter should have her hide tanned.
I'd like to buy the dad a beer.

At least a couple of people here, like yourself, have some common sense and an understanding how the real world works. :thumbsup:

I think that is where the problems lies. If they daughter invited the boy in then he is a guest of the house whether the father knew about it or not.

No he's not. A child CAN NOT invite someone into the home without the home owner's(parent's) consent.

[HollowHead]

Not sure where you're coming from...

The daughter shares half the blame. HH

[larry_minn]

I think that is where the problems lies. If they daughter invited the boy in then he is a guest of the house whether the father knew about it or not. Imagine this. Your wife invites a neighbor over for lunch. She goes to the bathroom. You come home and there is a stranger sitting on your couch. Do you draw and shoot them. And if you do don't you think there is gonna be trouble.

It's an example of why you must know your kids, and family and explain to them the danger of such situations.


I had to stop at this post. My understanding is (In MN) what the actual FACTS are is not as important as what YOU (and a reasonable person in same situation) thought was going on.
I.E. the actual example I recall. Door opens to small room you are in. Man is standing in doorway with a baseball bat. He is swearing/yelling he is going to kill you. You draw/order him to stop he advances you shoot....

Sounds legit right? Thing is the guy was using a Fake bat (stage prop that wouldn't cause a bruise but looks real) Also he never intended to hurt anyone just (rattle your cage)
Also for fun the guy is "slow" and everyone loves him knows he could NEVER hurt a fly....
Just about the time everyone in class was thinking "dang we messed up" the instructor/legal expert said all those facts you learned AFTERWARDS do NOT matter. (legally) Only what you KNEW (or thought you know and a reasonable person would think in similar situation) (do keep in mind they will NOT be under stress/have limited time to decide)

[troy96]

At least someone got to lay some pipe.