Shipping glock mags, or any mags for that matter

[Squished]

So I'm wondering where I can dig up information regarding shipping of glock mags, or any mags for that matter to MA.

I'm 99.5% it can't be done in MA, but figured I'd ask and see if anyone can give me a 100% definite answer. I want to purchase some more mags for my g30 but don't want to get bent over at local shops.

I've been looking but can't find any laws for shipping stuff to MA like accessories and ammo, but from what I can see only no distributor will ship anything to MA.

Can anyone help? Thanks in advance

[sf3pox1]

Where in MA do you live?

And when you say you want to buy more mags for your Glock 30, I am assuming you want some 13round Glock 21 mags?

[Apocalypse_Now]

Over 10 rds in MA is a state felony

10 rds or less is OK as far as I know, but others will verify

[Squished]

Over 10 rds in MA is a state felony

10 rds or less is OK as far as I know, but others will verify

I know the laws, thanks.

All I want is 10 rounders with the grip extenders.

[sf3pox1]

I know the laws, thanks.

All I want is 10 rounders with the grip extenders.


do u want the +0 extensions or the +1 ones?

[Squished]

do u want the +0 extensions or the +1 ones?


The +0, +1 isn't legal i don't think?

http://www.pearcegrip.com/glock.htm#Glock_Model_30

Those.

[lens]

Over 10 rds in MA is a state felony

10 rds or less is OK as far as I know, but others will verify

Close but not exactly right.

Pre-ban mags of any capacity are perfectly legal in MA (laws are for possession, so it's the same for a "visitor" as for a resident) with a MA LTC-A (required for hi-cap pistols/pistol mags). [LTC-B is OK for hi-cap rifle/shotgun mags but not hi-cap pistols/pistol mags.]

Newer than 9/13/1994 hi-cap mags can't be possessed in MA by anyone except LEO.

So you can legally buy (in person or mail-order) pre-ban hi-cap mags. Just that most out-of-state sources have been scared off by MA gun laws and nasty AGs and thus refuse to ship anything to MA.]

[Apocalypse_Now]

Close but not exactly right.

Pre-ban mags of any capacity are perfectly legal in MA (laws are for possession, so it's the same for a "visitor" as for a resident) with a MA LTC-A (required for hi-cap pistols/pistol mags). [LTC-B is OK for hi-cap rifle/shotgun mags but not hi-cap pistols/pistol mags.]

Newer than 9/13/1994 hi-cap mags can't be possessed in MA by anyone except LEO.

So you can legally buy (in person or mail-order) pre-ban hi-cap mags. Just that most out-of-state sources have been scared off by MA gun laws and nasty AGs and thus refuse to ship anything to MA.]

OK, I'll buy that. No retailer in their right mind is going to risk a felony charge, especially for a few $$ of profit

[Squished]

Where on earth would you be able to order the preban high caps?

[lens]

OK, I'll buy that. No retailer in their right mind is going to risk a felony charge, especially for a few $$ of profit

Possession is a felony. I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think that the law holds the dealer liable for a criminal act . . . especially if that dealer is not in MA.

For example: I can buy a new 70 rd drum mag for a 1911 at a NH gun show (mentioned because my Wife was drooling over one at last Fall's gun show in Concord NH) by simply showing the "green". It's not treated as a "controlled substance" in NH or any other Free State. If I then drive it back into MA (assuming I was not LE), I'd become an instant felon . . . however on what grounds could MA prosecute the NH dealer for a sale in NH? IANAL, but I see this as the same issue if the NH dealer shipped it to a MA resident (not knowing if person has LTC or not, or is LE or not).

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time was a felon was a bad dude. if you were a felon it was a mark that would hurt you the rest of your life, take away rights, and opportunities. now its been so over used to put teeth into every law to make polititions seem like they have done something great for us.
here we are talking about 3 more bullets in a mag. give me a break.
i'm sorry for the subject change, but i could not help myself.

[lens]

Where on earth would you be able to order the preban high caps?

There are places that sell them. Gun shows are excellent places to find them, but the further from MA you are, the better. At shows in/near MA they typically sell for $45-50 whereas if you were in (say) FL, you'd probably pay $15-20.

The EE here on GT and other forums are excellent places to get mags, mostly from private owners.

Be aware that the MA AG has trolls that scan online forums for intel that they use to threaten dealers with legal action (civil infractions of AG's mis-interpretation of UCC) if they will sell anything into MA, so posting names is never a wise thing.

[GlockRadio]

It is perfectly legal to ship pre-ban mags INTO Ma. It is also perfectly legal to ship ANY NEW 10 round or less capacity mags into Ma. The problem is everyone is so afraid of the Ma. AG office that they won't ship ANYTHING! :upeyes:

[lens]

It is perfectly legal to ship pre-ban mags INTO Ma. It is also perfectly legal to ship ANY NEW 10 round or less capacity mags into Ma. The problem is everyone is so afraid of the Ma. AG office that they won't ship ANYTHING! :upeyes:

BINGO!!

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One well-known catalog house refused to sell an empty plastic gun case to a MA resident, claiming it was illegal to ship to MA simply because it had a GLOCK logo on it! They won't ship any item that has a gun mfr's name on it to any MA resident! Ridiculous to the extreme . . . and an over-interpretation that the AG's office is probably beaming over.

[Squished]

Ahhh I love this state. Thanks for the info guys, I'm going to keep an eye out and see what i can find. I only have 2 mags now and would like a few more.

[oldnoob]

I felt your pain...

[Apocalypse_Now]

Possession is a felony. I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think that the law holds the dealer liable for a criminal act . . . especially if that dealer is not in MA.

For example: I can buy a new 70 rd drum mag for a 1911 at a NH gun show (mentioned because my Wife was drooling over one at last Fall's gun show in Concord NH) by simply showing the "green". It's not treated as a "controlled substance" in NH or any other Free State. If I then drive it back into MA (assuming I was not LE), I'd become an instant felon . . . however on what grounds could MA prosecute the NH dealer for a sale in NH? IANAL, but I see this as the same issue if the NH dealer shipped it to a MA resident (not knowing if person has LTC or not, or is LE or not).

Will you visit the retailer in prison if the state AG does not see the law that way? :embarassed:

[Doc226]

Gun Laws (M.G.L. ch. 140, s. 131 and ch. 269 s. 10, 12B & 14)

In 1998, Massachusetts enacted some of the toughest gun control laws in the country. These laws have significantly changed requirements regarding the purchase, possession, carrying, storage, and licensing of firearms. This summary highlights a few of the key points. However, it in no way sets forth all of the obligations and rights of individuals with regard to firearms laws.

Local police departments have the authority to issue gun permits. Such permits include licenses to carry (L.T.C.) and firearm identification cards (F.I.D.). There are two types of licenses to carry. A Class A license to carry allows an individual to purchase, possess and carry large-capacity handguns, rifles, shotguns and feeding devices. A Class A license to carry is the only permit that authorizes a holder to carry a concealed and loaded firearm. A Class B license to carry permits a holder to purchase, possess, and carry non-large capacity handguns and large-capacity rifles and shotguns.

There are also two types of firearm identification cards. Unrestricted firearm identification cards allow for the possession of non-large capacity rifles and shotguns. The restricted version of the card is available solely for the possession of chemical sprays.

Massachusetts gun laws require that all firearms, rifles, and shotguns be stored in a secured, locked container or equipped with a tamper resistant mechanical lock or other safety devices properly engaged as to render the weapon inoperable by unlawful users. Moreover, every firearm and large capacity weapon sold in the Commonwealth must be equipped with a safety device (trigger lock) designed to prevent its discharge by an unauthorized user.

New residents have 60 days to obtain proper licenses. Non-residents may obtain temporary licenses to carry through the Firearms Record Bureau in order to possess and transport firearms through the Commonwealth. All non-residents must comply with all Massachusetts laws regarding transportation and storage while in the Commonwealth.

No one may possess, transport or store any type of gun in a building or on the grounds of any school without prior authorization by the board in charge of the school.

For more information please contact your local police department or:

Firearms Records Bureau
Criminal History Systems Board
200 Arlington Street, Suite 2200
Chelsea, MA 02150
(617) 660-4780
www.mass.gov/chsb/frb/frb_faqs.html

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Gun Laws (M.G.L. ch. 140, s. 131 and ch. 269 s. 10, 12B & 14)

In 1998, Massachusetts enacted some of the toughest gun control laws in the country. These laws have significantly changed requirements regarding the purchase, possession, carrying, storage, and licensing of firearms. This summary highlights a few of the key points. However, it in no way sets forth all of the obligations and rights of individuals with regard to firearms laws.

Local police departments have the authority to issue gun permits. Such permits include licenses to carry (L.T.C.) and firearm identification cards (F.I.D.). There are two types of licenses to carry. A Class A license to carry allows an individual to purchase, possess and carry large-capacity handguns, rifles, shotguns and feeding devices. A Class A license to carry is the only permit that authorizes a holder to carry a concealed and loaded firearm. A Class B license to carry permits a holder to purchase, possess, and carry non-large capacity handguns and large-capacity rifles and shotguns.

There are also two types of firearm identification cards. Unrestricted firearm identification cards allow for the possession of non-large capacity rifles and shotguns. The restricted version of the card is available solely for the possession of chemical sprays.

Massachusetts gun laws require that all firearms, rifles, and shotguns be stored in a secured, locked container or equipped with a tamper resistant mechanical lock or other safety devices properly engaged as to render the weapon inoperable by unlawful users. Moreover, every firearm and large capacity weapon sold in the Commonwealth must be equipped with a safety device (trigger lock) designed to prevent its discharge by an unauthorized user.

New residents have 60 days to obtain proper licenses. Non-residents may obtain temporary licenses to carry through the Firearms Record Bureau in order to possess and transport firearms through the Commonwealth. All non-residents must comply with all Massachusetts laws regarding transportation and storage while in the Commonwealth.

No one may possess, transport or store any type of gun in a building or on the grounds of any school without prior authorization by the board in charge of the school.

For more information please contact your local police department or:

Firearms Records Bureau
Criminal History Systems Board
200 Arlington Street, Suite 2200
Chelsea, MA 02150
(617) 660-4780
www.mass.gov/chsb/frb/frb_faqs.html (http://www.mass.gov/chsb/frb/frb_faqs.html)


Mmm wrong thread? I don't see how that has any relevance to what I'm asking but OK! :whistling:

I understand already I can own them, but no one wants to ship them. :faint:

[Apocalypse_Now]

Mmm wrong thread? I don't see how that has any relevance to what I'm asking but OK! :whistling:

I understand already I can own them, but no one wants to ship them. :faint:

I'm an online Glock retailer. As noted, I will not ship "high caps" (as defined by each state) to any state with such laws, out of simple prudence. I escaped Commiefornia many years ago after fighting against such a ban as an activist, and going back there to face felony charges is not my idea of bright or good. I like my life out here in what is left of the USA

Don't blame the innocent, pro gun retailers for the communist state government you have in your state..

[Squished]

I'm an online Glock retailer. As noted, I will not ship to any state with such laws, out of simple prudence. I escaped Commiefornia many years ago after fighting against such a ban as an activist, and going back there to face felony charges is not my idea of bright or good. I like my life out here in what is left of the USA

Don't blame the innocent, pro gun retailers for the communist state government you have in your state..


Gotcha, well my original intent of the original post was to find 10 rounders, legal in this state no matter what. It wasn't until I realized I could have the preban ones it sparked my interest in the high caps. Where's the best place to order the 10 rounders?

[Apocalypse_Now]

Gotcha, well my original intent of the original post was to find 10 rounders, legal in this state no matter what. It wasn't until I realized I could have the preban ones it sparked my interest in the high caps. Where's the best place to order the 10 rounders?

Me, of course! Just kidding.. do a google.com search and find the best price.. CDNN has had some very good deals on Glock mags lately, basically at the current dealer price. It won't last (so hurry) because when the old stocks are gone the newer prices will kick in. Last I looked CDNN had them for less than $20, new. Just google CDNN

[Tuna333]

I know the laws, thanks.



so you're asking why???

move out of Ma... problem solved!!!

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so you're asking why???

move out of Ma... problem solved!!!

I was inquiring about shipping, not the kind of licenses(or lack there of) MA offers.


As far as moving out....in the process.....slower than expected though. :crying:

[M I K]

time was a felon was a bad dude. if you were a felon it was a mark that would hurt you the rest of your life, take away rights, and opportunities. now its been so over used to put teeth into every law to make polititions seem like they have done something great for us.
here we are talking about 3 more bullets in a mag. give me a break.
i'm sorry for the subject change, but i could not help myself.


That's exactly right. They have actually created MORE criminals.

[lens]

I'm an online Glock retailer. As noted, I will not ship "high caps" (as defined by each state) to any state with such laws, out of simple prudence. I escaped Commiefornia many years ago after fighting against such a ban as an activist, and going back there to face felony charges is not my idea of bright or good. I like my life out here in what is left of the USA

Don't blame the innocent, pro gun retailers for the communist state government you have in your state..

Well, if you want to restrict all sales to non-commie states, that is your prerogative. If potential customers choose to castigate you (global "you") for doing so, that is their prerogative. [e.g. Like those companies that refuse to ship an empty pistol case that has a GLOCK logo on it, or a spotting scope because it says WINCHESTER on it, etc.]

MGLs (different section) clearly state that any hi-cap mag made before 9/13/1994 is legal for a LTC-A holder to buy/possess (LTC-B is acceptable for hi-cap rifle/shotgun mags). It also states that LEOs are exempt. Simply asking for such ID and selling the right product to those folks will cover your butt. [Not to defend the MA AG, but I have ordered ammo and mags via phone/Email/Internet from out-of-state dealers. In most cases I have offered ID and they didn't want it. Goods came to the door w/o even an adult signature required (all ammo sales are supposed to require some proof that person is of age). So some dealers brought on the grief to themselves, thus causing most other dealers to "panic" and refuse all sales.]

Will you visit the retailer in prison if the state AG does not see the law that way? :embarassed:

In spite of any paranoia, this isn't going to happen.

Every case to date (been 20-30 out-of-state dealers that the former AG went after) has been a CIVIL case. The AG dropped them when dealer signed a "cease and desist" order. The former AG just wanted the publicity for "doing something". If the cases ever did go to a Fed Court, likely they would be thrown out. [Even Bloomberg's illegal sting operation . . . he tried persecuting those dealers in CIVIL Court, not criminal court. You can't be jailed for a civil infraction.]

If you are really paranoid, then you need to "card" EVERYONE, all the time! I've been to gun shows in FL, gun shops in NH, CT, RI, FL, WA, and CO and I've bought items in many of them. If a visitor to your state is from MA and buys a "controlled item" and ever gets jacked up back in MA, and your theory of dealer liability is correct (which I contend it is not), the MA AG would come after you (again the "global you") too!

[Doc226]

By LAW high cap mags CAN be shipped to Mass but the shipper must make sure that the person receiving then high cap mags has a LTC A. This is usually too much trouble for online shippers (they have to keep a record) and they choose to only ship 10 rounders.