Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations - Martial Law???

[Targettarget]

I just got this in an email. I'll try to look for a source.

Looks like somebody is preparing for an economic collapse, or an Obama loss as No Frills said.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/


Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside
the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal
response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st
Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in
Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit
will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army
service component of Northern Command.

The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command.

The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil
unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called
nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals
and crowds.

[nikerret]

I don't like it. It's a pinnacle move at a horrible time. When our Nation is worried about being weak is not the time to change major practices.

[No Frills McGee]

Is this incase obama loses?

[txinvestigator]

I just got this in an email. I'll try to look for a source.

Looks like somebody is preparing for an economic collapse!



Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside
the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal
response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st
Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in
Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit
will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army
service component of Northern Command.

The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command.

The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil
unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called
nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals
and crowds.

You believe that?

[Targettarget]

You believe that?

Here's the link.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

[Mister45]

Is this incase obama loses?

This is the root of it all, I had some black friends that came over and was asking me to vote for Nobama and I simply told them, No, I did not agree with him being the right man for the job and then he informed me that "Obama better when or you white folks are gonna wish you had never brought our ancestors over here as there will be riots and trouble like no other " Well I said Ok.. Time for you to leave, I then informed him since he had talked like that, he limited my friendship based on my vote and he was no longer welcome to my home..

It could be that the feds are preparing for both to win.. Meaning maybe they are expecting trouble if either wins.

[txinvestigator]

Here's the link.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

Thank you. Sheds a little more complete light on it, doesn't it?

[mike1969]

Not just the armytimes, but I been hearing the fearmongering rumormills hawking about the martial law and concertation camps, Posse commitus, and other things. Guys remember a short little while ago, the black box looking things in Georgia, over 500,000 thousand of them??

The American public would never stand for an active unit to start doing "things" inside of CONUS. The sheep would, but the shepherds wouldnt.

[RichardB]

The Army has always had the specific missions listed. The difference is that these units will be trained before hand. Remember in many places the National Guard soldiers who would usually respond to domestic issues have been tied up in other things.

[Sam White]

My Army Reserve unit was non-deployable because of a similar tasking. We were a CBRNE unit assigned to the national task force. That's all we trained for during the 4 years I was with them.

[badge315]

The article is written to make it appear as if this unit will be used in the same capacity that National Guard troops are, but I am still very leery of using Federal troops for domestic law enforcement duties such as crowd control.

On the other hand, I have absolutely no qualms about utilizing elite military forces for things like domestic hostage rescue missions; I doubt that there are any significant differences between the way the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team would execute such an operation vs. a Navy SEAL Team, for example.

[GotGlock1917]

You guys don't understand.
They are going to be stationed on the Canadian border.
We are taking all your bacon.

[chowchow]

I feel well armed if ever theres a social unrest. The troops will only be our backup.

[Glock 19 God]

You guys don't understand.
They are going to be stationed on the Canadian border.
We are taking all your bacon.
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[Targettarget]

You guys don't understand.
They are going to be stationed on the Canadian border.
We are taking all your bacon.

You can only have it if you promise to bail out all the Canadian banks to.

[GotGlock1917]

You can only have it if you promise to bail out all the Canadian banks to.

I thought Canadian Bacon WAS your standard currency.

[blueiron]

You can only have it if you promise to bail out all the Canadian banks to.


I can't even redeem my Canadian Tire 'dollars' ! :crying:

[Daps]

This is the root of it all, I had some black friends that came over and was asking me to vote for Nobama and I simply told them, No, I did not agree with him being the right man for the job and then he informed me that "Obama better when or you white folks are gonna wish you had never brought our ancestors over here as there will be riots and trouble like no other " Well I said Ok.. Time for you to leave, I then informed him since he had talked like that, he limited my friendship based on my vote and he was no longer welcome to my home..

It could be that the feds are preparing for both to win.. Meaning maybe they are expecting trouble if either wins.

Not sure I'd call them friends with threats like that..

That said I'm a black guy who's not voting for Obama but to be honest I'm not voting for McCain either...both of them can..well any who im stocking up on necessities in case some idiots do decide to riot though i dont see it as a problem here as a big city would but you never know...also stocking up because who knows what .gov is going to do with all this bail out economy crash mess going on

[Targettarget]

I thought Canadian Bacon WAS your standard currency.

No, your way off. We barter with used Celine Dion CDs. :supergrin:

[Denny Crane]

If Obama wins, the troops will be needed to collect the firearms that the UN will declare illegal.

.......................................................denny crane

[GotGlock1917]

no, your way off. We barter with used celine dion cds. :supergrin:

Pull back the troops!! Now!!

[FF Wife]

No, your way off. We barter with used Celine Dion CDs. :supergrin:

"used".... You mean you listen to 'em first? :shocked:

[Mister45]

If Obama wins, the troops will be needed to collect the firearms that the UN will declare illegal.

.......................................................denny crane

...Try to collect them... Because when they come, they will never be able to find the ones I have...

[Mister45]

Not sure I'd call them friends with threats like that..

That said I'm a black guy who's not voting for Obama but to be honest I'm not voting for McCain either...both of them can..well any who im stocking up on necessities in case some idiots do decide to riot though i dont see it as a problem here as a big city would but you never know...also stocking up because who knows what .gov is going to do with all this bail out economy crash mess going on

Yes, I have not considered our friendship to be continued as he made some more open threats and that is another story, But I will be wary of what is happening now more then ever around me since all this is taking place, I will do my best to get stocked up mainly on ammo and food stuff.. but that is hard when money is tight due to many things that are going on..

I would like to have seen this coming 10 years ago, I would now
have 1000's of rounds of ammo and a cabin in the hills.. or country and not be so dependent on being near stuff..

[Daps]

Yes, I have not considered our friendship to be continued as he made some more open threats and that is another story, But I will be wary of what is happening now more then ever around me since all this is taking place, I will do my best to get stocked up mainly on ammo and food stuff.. but that is hard when money is tight due to many things that are going on..

I would like to have seen this coming 10 years ago, I would now
have 1000's of rounds of ammo and a cabin in the hills.. or country and not be so dependent on being near stuff..

AMen bro.
Im watching tv and they keep talking about gas running out in Nashville. I'm two hours from there. I've seen some regular out at some pumps but most have gas here but with all this stuff going on i am glad i carry

As Christmas gets closer and utilites go up i think there's gonna be a rash of stick up, home break ins in the next few months, depending on the election it may be best to be in by dark depending on were you live with the porch light turned off lol

[Tim Converse]

Not sure I'd call them friends with threats like that..

With friends like that, who needs enemas.

[GotGlock1917]

With friends like that, who needs enemas.

:wavey:

[Ragnar]

I just got this in an email. I'll try to look for a source.

Looks like somebody is preparing for an economic collapse, or an Obama loss as No Frills said.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/


Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside
the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal
response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st
Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in
Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit
will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army
service component of Northern Command.

The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command.

The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil
unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called
nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals
and crowds.


They could also be called upon to help fight forest fires, cleanup after hurricanes, etc.

All they are doing is clarifying the command relationships and shortening the process for getting things done. Without being chopped to Northcom it would take a little longer to get the unit moving in a crisis.

I recommend everyone refresh the tinfoil. Remember, shiny side out!

[Malkuth]

The question is how many will be ready Day after the election? Will you check to make sure you have mags all loaded up... Maybe your AR or AK ready with a few mags?

Or are you always ready? LOL. :rofl:

[Dean]

I don't like it. It's a pinnacle move at a horrible time. When our Nation is worried about being weak is not the time to change major practices.

+1
You hit it right on the head. :drillsgt:

[chuckman]

Nothing really new. US military has done things all over this country for a variety of reasons. When they start stringing concertina, taking weapons, and using combat patrols on the streets, then we need to worry...oh, wait...they did that in New Orleans...

[Daryl in Az]

They could also be called upon to help fight forest fires, cleanup after hurricanes, etc.

They could, but it isn't fire season, and the hurricane season is pretty much over, too.

They opted to do this just before a controversial presidential election, when the country is facing the worst economic crisis in recent history.

My thoughts? It can't hurt to be prepared for whatever they see coming.

Daryl

[Peace Frog]

Russia was a free Christian country for a couple hundred years,in fact most communist or socialist countries started as free countries,then the government tastes the power and control it has and starts to slowly pass laws that restrict their peoples freedom in the name of safety.Just look at some of the Executive Orders that are already in place in America that most people have no clue exist.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the National Security Act of 1947. It allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Great huh?There's plenty more but if I post it then I would get called out for wearing my tinfoil hat...:supergrin: I love this country but the government has way to much control over us.I have been in many different countries and I can say in my eyes most people in America are content with material things and could give a crap less about how our great country was founded and could care less about any history of America.Take this past July 4th...I asked a couple of E-5's in our local HEB what they were celebrating?They said "we're gonna get ****ed up,chase women and eat bar-b-que,they had two shopping carts full of beer and one full of various meats.I asked do you two even know why we celebrate the 4th of July (I assume they did but I think I pissed them off) they both said "we just told you...can't you hear?"I told them both thank you for your service and stay safe.

[slewfoot]

They could, but it isn't fire season, and the hurricane season is pretty much over, too.

They opted to do this just before a controversial presidential election, when the country is facing the worst economic crisis in recent history.

My thoughts? It can't hurt to be prepared for whatever they see coming.

Daryl

Someone has to be prepared if the bottom falls out. Our major cities are mired with huge social programs. To meet the increasing financial demand, cities are cutting their emergency budgets in order to pay to keep the rabble happy.

[aircarver]

I thought Canadian Bacon WAS your standard currency.....Molson's Ale....:supergrin:

[javelinadave]

Is this incase obama loses?
Wins or looses, it is going to be UGLY!

[zoyter2]

..........................Just look at some of the Executive Orders that are already in place in America that most people have no clue exist.

...............................
Great huh?There's plenty more but if I post it then I would get called out for wearing my tinfoil hat...:supergrin:..............................

I have been accused of wearing the hat myself. Folks are generally too ignorant/blind to understand that the Constitution and BORs of our country is not worth the paper it is written on in regards to any 'FREEDOMS' confirmed therein.

You have now, and will have in the future, only the freedoms and rights that the FEDGOV decides to give you. Not one single one more.

[Longtooths]

Nothing really new. US military has done things all over this country for a variety of reasons. When they start stringing concertina, taking weapons, and using combat patrols on the streets, then we need to worry...oh, wait...they did that in New Orleans...


Yeah and by then it was to late. This is bad all around!

[dbrowne1]

They could also be called upon to help fight forest fires, cleanup after hurricanes, etc.

All they are doing is clarifying the command relationships and shortening the process for getting things done. Without being chopped to Northcom it would take a little longer to get the unit moving in a crisis.


I'm not wearing any tin foil hat, and I'm not sure I buy your explanation. First of all, this is a combat arms unit. They aren't firefighters or trash haulers. Their job is to kill people and break things - in other countries.

Second, the source - Army Times - is considerably better about details than regular mainstream media, and specifically says that they are being made ready for riot control and civil unrest.

[Model19]

I'm sure we'll be fine. Just don't try to put flowers in their barrels.

[agentl074]

Please delete - double post.

[agentl074]

Ya'll are forgeting one thing though... State Defense Forces hehe. My state has the Indiana Guard Reserve - which does not leave the state - they assist law enforcement during car shows, and other events. State Defense Forces are here when the National Guard is not.

[Ragnar]

Russia was a free Christian country for a couple hundred years,



Huh? Which Russia are you talking about?

The only one I know of is the one that was taken over by Pagan Tartars and then wrested from them by Tsar Ivan in the 15th century. The Tsars - autocrats by Divine Right - ruled until 1917. When was Russia ever "free"?