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Every morning at work a guy delivers some stuff to us. He is a black Jamaican guy. He is an extremely nice guy and usually likes to joke around with us.
Last week he came in and I guess he was training someone. The Jamaican guy was carrying his clipboard but there was a white guy pushing his giant cart full of crap. (The Jamaican is usually alone.)
Without even thinking about any sort of racism at all I said something along the lines of "Hey I see they gave ya a slave."
He laughed but I could immediately tell something was wrong. Ever since this happened he has barely spoken to me. Apparently he told every single person I work with that I am a racist bigot. All sorts of rumors going on now about how I am a racist. He even complained to my boss. My boss said it was no big deal and the guy had no reason to get mad as I am obviously not a racist. I would have said the same thing had it been 2 white guys. The freaking race of these two had nothing to do with my joke.
So, do you think I'm a dumb arse or is this guy just being ridiculous?
Just wait until Sharpton and Jackson get a hold of this...:supergrin:
(He's being ridiculous if you asked me but that's not how it plays out anymore.)
Deradius
09-27-2008, 08:37
You said something that could be taken as 'insensitive' without thinking about it.
Rough equivalent would be standing in the elevator next to a wheelchair bound guy, seeing that he has some cofffee, and saying, "Ran out for a cup of coffee, eh?"
Some folks wouldn't be offended no matter what they thought you meant.
Some folks would know you used an expression without thinking about the context.
And some folks would get their hackles up.
Your boss understands what happened, and you know what your intent was.
The Jamaican guy will have to deal. If he walks around his life looking for racism, he'll see it everywhere.
pesticidal
09-27-2008, 08:38
In this particular situation, I think you were a dumb arse.
frank4570
09-27-2008, 08:39
It was an accident. I think you should just apologize to him. He SHOULD let it go after that. You didn't know how much you were going to offend him. Other people would not be offended. Honest mistake.
H&K .45 AUTO
09-27-2008, 08:40
I think that in our modern "politically correct" society... Your comments could easily be taken as racist. I don't agree with the logic, but we as a nation have allowed ourselves to get to this point, so we all have to live with it.
My personal feelings on the subject are that this country has become too thin-skinned, and is borderline fruity in most regards. Saying "Merry Christmas" to a stranger on the streets can get you sued these days. You should have respected their right to not acknowledge Santa Claus and simply said "Happy Holiday's" instead... Gimme a break!
This country needs to just grow a pair, and get back to being the human beings we were all meant to be. But, I don't ever see that happening again in our lifetimes.
Some minorities are hyper sensivitve about race minutely examing everything said or done to them for signs of the racism they are sure is there. Be glad your boss is understanding, often just the accusation is enough to establish guilt. It sucks but that's the world we have let liberals create for us.
slewfoot
09-27-2008, 08:44
If he is that sensitive, he is doing you a favor by not talking to you.
I don't think it was racist (purposefully), but I think some people are as sensitive about the word "slave" as they are "the n word," or whatever you want to call it. I wouldn't worry about it too much. You made a joke, he didn't like it, live goes on.
Next time, say "hey, got yourself a pack mule?" or something like that, instead. Unless, y'know, the guy you're talking to is a donkey.
GlenGLOCKER
09-27-2008, 08:49
I wouldn't apologize. Actually the white guy is the one who would be pissed if anything. There's a black guy at work that thinks he's a Al Sharpton JR. He said he agrees with everything the Rev Wright said, and that America ain't sh%$. He also said I didn't serve my country (I'm retired Navy). He gets away with the stuff because he's black and we work for the government. If you worked for the government your butt could possibly be in a sling.
badge315
09-27-2008, 08:49
Excuse me, but when were Jamaicans ever enslaved in the U.S.?
Blacks are not the only group to have ever been enslaved...my ancestors were 'encouraged to participate' in a rather large-scale construction project in Egypt a while back. :rofl:
Tell Mr. Uber-Sensitive Jamaican dude to go s**t in his stinky hat. :tongueout:
We live in a nation of "victims".
All you did was give him a chance to play the victim.
He should thank you. Next time you see him tell him
he's welcome.
When he says, "huh?"
Explain it to him.
Do not apologize under any circumstances, but
accept his apology if he offers one.
Excuse me, but when were Jamaicans ever enslaved in the U.S.?
Blacks are not the only group to have ever been enslaved...my ancestors were 'encouraged to participate' in a rather large-scale construction project in Egypt a while back. :rofl:
Tell Mr. Uber-Sensitive Jamaican dude to go s**t in his stinky hat. :tongueout:
Thats pretty much what I thought. He isn't even an American citizen actually...
I don't think I am going to apologize because if he gets offended that easily then I just don't care to bother with it. I might offend him more by apologizing.
I don't really like my coworkers thinking I'm a racist, but hey i work third shift. I only work with 3 other people max anyways. The day shift folks can piss off as its non of their buissness anyways as far as I'm concerned.
JellyBelly
09-27-2008, 08:54
If he's so delicate he shouldn't leave the house.
LOL @ purveyors of white guilt.
armorplated
09-27-2008, 08:58
In our age of "perpetual entitlement" certain groups of people are hard wired to look for offense. They wake up in the morning with a chip on their shoulder and then pounce on anything and everything that substantiates their "oppressed" perspective.
I stopped caring long ago about what they think.
J.M.Towers
09-27-2008, 09:00
A great racism defense is to say, "Oooh, I mean Sex Slave".
Yeah, still EO issue but at least not RACISM.
?=^)
JellyBelly
09-27-2008, 09:07
I can't post the pic, but TShirtHell.com has a funny shirt about slavery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Shirt_Hell
I don't think it was racist and I don't think you need to to feel bad about it.
If he gets offended that easily than do you really want to have to talk to him at work anyway.
Maybe you can convince him to go back to Jamaica where he won't have to deal with these problems. Before he becomes not only a citizen but also a senator.
No Frills McGee
09-27-2008, 09:29
It wasn't racist, but it was stupid.
Evidently you and I are a lot alike.........non PC, but a racist?....NO.
If the guy took offense, then tough, he needs to get over it!!:tongueout:
OrangeJoe
09-27-2008, 09:54
The ONLY answer for the OP is NO.
Having said that, I did not see, anywhere in the OP's post, a 'minority' getting offended. I read it as A man getting offended. I can't for the life of me, understand how suddenly this is explained by 'groups' or 'minorities', it is the personal experience of one man.
Obviously the OP did not know the Jamaican guy well enough to pull the joke off. Maybe he is hypersensitive, or maybe he got lulled into a smile and a beating when he first got to the US with a similar comment/joke.
It was a funny joke, not a funny office joke, specially with a guy you obviously don't know well.
itsnitro
09-27-2008, 09:58
I love how we, as American's, have to watch what words we use from day-to-day. That 1st. Amendment has a very tight leash around it huh? Don't apologize, no need to, besides like others said, you were referring to the white guy pulling the load.
But, maybe he was worried the white guy would be offended and report to his boss that the Jamaican guy allowed him to be called a slave and didn't do anything about it. :dunno:
Dennis in MA
09-27-2008, 10:03
A great racism defense is to say, "Oooh, I mean Sex Slave".
Yeah, still EO issue but at least not RACISM.
?=^)
boby - You GOTTA do this - and get it on tape. ROTFL!!!!
People need to grow up. You didn't call him HNIC or something. Sheesh.
If you are white, you can't say "slave" or "******".
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uneasyrider
09-27-2008, 10:29
It wasn't racist, but it was stupid.
Yeah that's it in a nutshell. Bad joke no big deal if the guy gets offended tell him to lighten up maybe it was a bad joke but it was just a joke.
agentl074
09-27-2008, 10:32
Ya know from a sociological standpoint - this is exactly the progress - and digress of our society. I probably would have done the same thing because You forgot about race This should happen much more than it does. Everytime someone brings up racism - it re-energizes it! For racism to end - WE MUST FORGET!
Personally, "slave" is one of those words I never use around a black person.
Similar words would include, "Toby," "******," "Porch Monkey" or "Uncle Tom."
While I agree this guy shouldn't be too upset about it, I think you did commit a faux pas by saying what you said.
If it's that big a deal to you, why not talk with him about it and set him straight?
Better than walking around with a black cloud (hahaha) hanging (d'oh!) over your head!
Oh crap... I'm gonna get lynched (trifecta!) for this...
:wow: :wow: :wow:
Better than walking around with a black cloud (hahaha) hanging (d'oh!) over your head!
Oh crap... I'm gonna get lynched (trifecta!) for this...
:rofl:
Yeah, I might try to talk to the guy. But honestly, if he can't take a joke, 'F' him. It sounds like you don't have to spend all of your time at work around this guy, so I wouldn't sweat it.
Personally, "slave" is one of those words I never use around a black person.
Similar words would include, "Toby," "******," "Porch Monkey" or "Uncle Tom."
While I agree this guy shouldn't be too upset about it, I think you did commit a faux pas by saying what you said.
If it's that big a deal to you, why not talk with him about it and set him straight?
Better than walking around with a black cloud (hahaha) hanging (d'oh!) over your head!
Oh crap... I'm gonna get lynched (trifecta!) for this...
:wow: :wow: :wow:
I cannot believe you would equate the word "slave" with those obvious racist sloagans and phrases you typed. "I am a slave to my wife", is that a racist thing to say? :faint:
Frankly, I am sick and tired of being called whitey, I am sick and tired of society being OK with black racism but freaks over any indication of white racism. There is no reason for racism on either side.
"Porch Monkey"
It's okay. We're taking it back!
orangedawg19
09-27-2008, 10:40
Never apologize.
I cannot believe you would equate the word "slave" with those obvious racist sloagans and phrases you typed. "I am a slave to my wife", is that a racist thing to say? :faint:
heh..
I wonder what he'd be like in a transmission shop.
"Well sir, it seems that you have a problem with your...um...uh.......well.....unpaid forced worker cylinder..."
kahrcarrier
09-27-2008, 10:47
I know a few Jamaican born men, and they are for the most part, easy going.
Except when it comes to what they percieve as "their woman." Very protective of that "property," even while scheming on another female. [or two.] :supergrin:
You said something a lilttle crass. Say, "I'm sorry," or just let it go.
Life is too short.
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This was totally out of line.:shocked:
This was totally out of line.:shocked:
:rofl: I'm guessing that you've never seen that episode? Do you think the correct answer is the evil "n" word?
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/kampfnin/nagger3.jpg
*paging Dr. Freud*
:wavey:
This was totally out of line.:shocked:
Not a big South Park fan? :tongueout:
KusoJijii
09-27-2008, 10:58
what you didn't know is that your delivery guy traced his lineage back to northern Africa, and also that his trainee's last name is Goldstein. You just reminded him of when his people enslaved their Mediterranean neighbors to the north and now he feels bad, you caused him to have those memories so you are the cause of his pain, it's your fault.
:wavey:
LOL @ that. I think it is insensitive. Racist no.
Racist = involving hate or an action of hate. So for them to go around saying this is wrong.
agentl074
09-27-2008, 11:07
I still believe that a person has to live in that time frame in order to know what it was. Racism is something that should be dropped - not rekindled. Someone has to be taught to react to words - that is not right. If it doesnt end... it doesnt end.
I think that's just funny as hell, I think the cat is over reacting:alex:
People are just too sensitive. A person can’t go through life examining every word before it comes out of their mouth. Before taking offense to any statement people should be a bit more concerned with the intent or tone it was said.
“You sure deserve to have moved up in rank!” Could mean entirely different things depending on the tone it was said; one could be a sincere statement of a well deserved promotion, the other a sarcastic statement meaning quite the opposite.
I cannot imagine anyone walking around life with such a heavy ship on their shoulders, it must be exhausting!
Having said that, and because I usually suffer from “foot in mouth syndrome”, when I have noticed a change in the demeanor of a person after one of my many insensitive statements (not intended as such at the time) I would apologize and add that no offense was meant, it was just a joke.
I do at times intend to insult though, “what makes you think I even like you?” said with a big smile isn’t necessarily a joke.:supergrin:
Does anyone remember someone got their pantys in a wad when they found out IDE drives had Master and Slave drives?
That was another clue along the way that helped convince me we've lost it.
Excuse me, but when were Jamaicans ever enslaved in the U.S.?
Blacks are not the only group to have ever been enslaved...my ancestors were 'encouraged to participate' in a rather large-scale construction project in Egypt a while back. :rofl:
Tell Mr. Uber-Sensitive Jamaican dude to go s**t in his stinky hat. :tongueout:
lol!!!! Thats what I thought... HHMMMM is he a jamaican jew or something??
op- maybe the black dude thought you were talking to the white guy?
I got a few black guys that I work with on the shift I'm on. We only see each other in the morning for an hour or so. There's 4 black guys and 3 white guys. The victim attitude is not allowed around us. They pop off jokes about themselves all the time. They talk crap about me being a redneck whitetrash cracker all the time. Its all in fun and I've worked with or known these guys for 10-15 years.
Every morning we joke, talk crap to each other, make fun of each others ancestory. But also we hug, kick in some $$ to help out if needed, and sometimes lend an ear when needed. I feel bad for the rest of the guys at my work cause everywhere else up there its all PC all the time. If someone feels insulted the cops get called. friggin ridiculous!
agentl074
09-27-2008, 11:31
lol!!!! Thats what I thought... HHMMMM is he a jamaican jew or something??
op- maybe the black dude thought you were talking to the white guy?
I got a few black guys that I work with on the shift I'm on. We only see each other in the morning for an hour or so. There's 4 black guys and 3 white guys. The victim attitude is not allowed around us. They pop off jokes about themselves all the time. They talk crap about me being a redneck whitetrash cracker all the time. Its all in fun and I've worked with or known these guys for 10-15 years.
Every morning we joke, talk crap to each other, make fun of each others ancestory. But also we hug, kick in some $$ to help out if needed, and sometimes lend an ear when needed. I feel bad for the rest of the guys at my work cause everywhere else up there its all PC all the time. If someone feels insulted the cops get called. friggin ridiculous!
Thats how its done man - people who get crazy digging up old bones are the ones I worry about.
No Frills McGee
09-27-2008, 11:33
lol!!!! Thats what I thought... HHMMMM is he a jamaican jew or something??
op- maybe the black dude thought you were talking to the white guy?
I got a few black guys that I work with on the shift I'm on. We only see each other in the morning for an hour or so. There's 4 black guys and 3 white guys. The victim attitude is not allowed around us. They pop off jokes about themselves all the time. They talk crap about me being a redneck whitetrash cracker all the time. Its all in fun and I've worked with or known these guys for 10-15 years.
Every morning we joke, talk crap to each other, make fun of each others ancestory. But also we hug, kick in some $$ to help out if needed, and sometimes lend an ear when needed. I feel bad for the rest of the guys at my work cause everywhere else up there its all PC all the time. If someone feels insulted the cops get called. friggin ridiculous!
this is the world i want to one day live in
....
That was another clue along the way that helped convince me we've lost it.
We lost it a long time ago!
When one race can use a word but another race can't.
When people still bicker over an event that ended over 150 years ago.
When Equal Opportunity/Civil Rights only applies to one race.
When a person of one race can't be a racist because of his race.
When a one race does something, it must be good. (music, art, movies)
We are far beyond losing it!:rofl:
PeterJasonMN
09-27-2008, 11:34
I'd go to the first Wal-Mart/Lane Bryant/wherever that sold fat girl underwear, buy a pair, then throw them at him and tell him to put on his big girl panties.
We are far beyond losing it!:rofl:
Well, I was already convinced but when I heard objections about IDE Slave drives I was like, "You've got to be effing kidding me". Sadly I found out it was true.
jdavionic
09-27-2008, 11:47
I guess it depends on what you meant. From the description you provided in your OP, I'd just chalk it being a comment that was not not well thought out. Personally I don't care for walking on eggshells in trying to figure out what will or will not be deemed offensive. I just try to use common sense. Making slave jokes around a black person, to me, lacks commons sense. If you were friends with him, I'd have have a different opinion since he'd know whether you were truly a racist or smart ass. But a casual acquaintance, I just think it was a mistake.
On the flip side, he should also give you the benefit of the doubt and not get his panties in a wad. Rather than acting like a high school brat, he should have simply been a man and told you to your face 'hey, I don't care for that kind of talk.' It would have prompted a discussion in which you both would have walked away with a better understanding of each other.
centurion
09-27-2008, 11:51
Never much followed nascar
I worked with a Jamiaican once who was the most worthless POS I've ever met. He would talk on his cell all day avoiding work and when a manager would question him he would say "man, I'm not your slave!!" Seriously. Ironically, he had worked there before and why they hired him back I'll never know. Wait a minute, I do remember: AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. :whistling:
You would have been reprimanded at my place of employment. This is 2008 and the next POTUS will be black
agentl074
09-27-2008, 13:32
Socialism knows no bounds.
i dont think it was racist,,
Clyde in CO
09-27-2008, 14:29
you didn't make a racist comment, he's being a whiny *****.
however, if this is someone that you see frequently at work you should talk to him, tell him that it was an offhanded remark that was taken the wrong way, and apologize and ask if you can both just forget it ever happened and go back to the way things were.
Hopefully that will fix the situation.
If he still gives you crap or starts placing terms on your apology just say
"Oh well, I tried. I guess there's no sense in talking with uppity ******s when they have a chip on their shoulder. "
"Oh well, I tried. I guess there's no sense in talking with uppity ******s when they have a chip on their shoulder. "
Then he can go clean out his desk/locker becuz dat's fo shure gonna git him fired.
OrangeJoe
09-27-2008, 14:56
We lost it a long time ago!
When one race can use a word but another race can't.
When people still bicker over an event that ended over 150 years ago.
When Equal Opportunity/Civil Rights only applies to one race.
When a person of one race can't be a racist because of his race.
When a one race does something, it must be good. (music, art, movies)
We are far beyond losing it!:rofl:
These threads always go well, until... and the above is that moment. I am pretty sure SOME, let's call them 'pigment-heavy' people in the states had their father/little brother/uncle/neighbor hung from a tree and set on fire by the local sheriff and fellow upstanding citizens. This did not happen 150 years ago, but in their lifetime, they saw it.
'Those people' are still alive, some are your co-workers, some are your co-worker's parents.
Don't equate affirmative action programs that discriminate based on race with what 'those people' went through a few decades ago.
psytechguy
09-27-2008, 14:59
Sometimes you just say the wrong thing. These days it's getting easier and easier to do. Folks seem to be a lot more sensitive than they used to be and then a lot of people are just looking for an excuse to go off. I find myself just zipping my lip more and more and being the straight man.
I once asked a black guy working the parts counter at a dealership if the part I needed was gonna cost me an arm and a leg. He turned around and gave me a dirty look, and then.....
I noticed he only had one arm. :wow:
Seriously. True story.
Foot in Mouth Disease, definitely. Not rascism, but since I was a white dude saying it to a black guy, some would paint it as rascism.
When he saw the look on my face when I saw he only had one arm, he chilled out, but the girl working the counter with him was having such a hard time keeping from busting out laughing she had to go out into the warehouse to stifle herself.
Clyde in CO
09-27-2008, 15:17
These threads always go well, until... and the above is that moment. I am pretty sure SOME, let's call them 'pigment-heavy' people in the states had their father/little brother/uncle/neighbor hung from a tree and set on fire by the local sheriff and fellow upstanding citizens. This did not happen 150 years ago, but in their lifetime, they saw it.
'Those people' are still alive, some are your co-workers, some are your co-worker's parents.
Don't equate affirmative action programs that discriminate based on race with what 'those people' went through a few decades ago.
True, but not me or anybody in either side of my family did it.
To treat a white person like member of the KKK youth auxiliary just because they're white is just as racist as treating a black person like a carjacker just because they're black.
If a black person is to bigoted to realize this, then they can...... you get the idea.
Plus, I went to a predominantly black school when I was a kid. The treatment I received at the hands of the children of these poor downtrodden souls killed any and all sympathy I might have had for the plight of the african american.
This is also why I'm so free with the N word. I love to push their buttons.
sigpro-fessor
09-27-2008, 15:24
As a Black person myself, I wouldn't have been offended at all. Dude needs to lighten up.
It would have however, IMHO been different if the races were reversed. In other words, if a White guy normally did the delivery, and this time he had a Black trainee pushing the cart, then you made the remark..that on the other hand may be a little awkward.
sigpro-fessor
09-27-2008, 15:29
Plus, I went to a predominantly black school when I was a kid. The treatment I received at the hands of the children of these poor downtrodden souls killed any and all sympathy I might have had for the plight of the african american.
This is also why I'm so free with the N word. I love to push their buttons.
Im sure just the reverse scenario has happened with a black kid in an all white school. SO basically your bitter based in your child hood experience and you carry that burden with you to that day.
As far as being free with the N word, that will only get your ass kicked in the right company. "Pushing peoples buttons" is a sign of immaturity. You've got some growing to do.
Im sorry for whatever child hood experiences you may have had that have left you bitter. I don't hate all white people because I have been called the N word before. Get back to us when you grow up.
In this particular situation, I think you were a dumb arse.
That's all needs to be said.
sigpro-fessor
09-27-2008, 15:37
you didn't make a racist comment, he's being a whiny *****.
"Oh well, I tried. I guess there's no sense in talking with uppity ******s when they have a chip on their shoulder. "
Heh, I wish the filter wouldn't flag that word. Id love to see you use it "freely" in any East Cleveland neighborhood. lol. :rofl:
sigpro-fessor
09-27-2008, 15:37
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Is there an "A" Pat? :wavey:
Clyde in CO
09-27-2008, 15:40
I'm not bitter at all. I don't go out of my way to look for racial confrontations, and I treat everyone I meet decently no matter who they are.
I don't carry a burden. If someone acts like a racist SOB to me, that's what they get back.
As far as the N word, when black people start treating it like a rude word that shouldn't be uttered, then so will I.
Get back to us when you grow up.
yes massa~
longgonedays
09-27-2008, 15:43
Every morning at work a guy delivers some stuff to us. He is a black Jamaican guy. He is an extremely nice guy and usually likes to joke around with us.
Last week he came in and I guess he was training someone. The Jamaican guy was carrying his clipboard but there was a white guy pushing his giant cart full of crap. (The Jamaican is usually alone.)
Without even thinking about any sort of racism at all I said something along the lines of "Hey I see they gave ya a slave."
He laughed but I could immediately tell something was wrong. Ever since this happened he has barely spoken to me. Apparently he told every single person I work with that I am a racist bigot. All sorts of rumors going on now about how I am a racist. He even complained to my boss. My boss said it was no big deal and the guy had no reason to get mad as I am obviously not a racist. I would have said the same thing had it been 2 white guys. The freaking race of these two had nothing to do with my joke.
So, do you think I'm a dumb arse or is this guy just being ridiculous?
To hell with him. He thinks black people were the only ones enslaved in the history of the world?
He's not even African FFS, so he has no right to be offended.
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sigpro-fessor
09-27-2008, 15:49
I'm not bitter at all. I don't go out of my way to look for racial confrontations, and I treat everyone I meet decently no matter who they are.
I don't carry a burden. If someone acts like a racist SOB to me, that's what they get back.
As far as the N word, when black people start treating it like a rude word that shouldn't be uttered, then so will I.
yes massa~
Your so contradicting its sickening, the funny part is you cant even detect it. And to think you actually own firearms...scary.
You mention your ill treatment by blacks as a child as a reason why you use the N word, and have no sympathy for the plite of blacks, but go on to then say you aren't bitter?
You say you avoid racial confrontations but admit to freely using the N word.
You mention that when blacks stop using the N word, you will also. Thats like saying when pedophiles stop molesting children you'll ditch your child porn collection. Do you see how idiotic and terribly flawed your logic is?
longgonedays
09-27-2008, 15:51
As a Black person myself, I wouldn't have been offended at all. Dude needs to lighten up.
It would have however, IMHO been different if the races were reversed. In other words, if a White guy normally did the delivery, and this time he had a Black trainee pushing the cart, then you made the remark..that on the other hand may be a little awkward.
Exactly.
badge315
09-27-2008, 16:04
Perhaps the OP should have said "beaner" instead of "slave"...since there were no Hispanics present during this exchange, no one would have been offended. :rofl:
blueiron
09-27-2008, 16:05
This is 2008 and the next POTUS will be black
He is half black and half white. Some people on either side are none too comfortable with him.
sigpro-fessor
09-27-2008, 16:12
Yes, this IS 2008. And sadly racism is still alive and kickin' baby.
As far as the pres being black. There a people voting for him because of this, as well as people voting against him because of this. Like I said, its still alive and kicking and it works both ways. Blacks are just as racist as Whites. I don't care if the pres is Green, he wants to take my guns so he's no friend of mine.
In fact, if he knew his history, as a Black American he should be all for legal gun ownership. After all, the roots of gun control stemmed from racism after all.
DoubleDog
09-27-2008, 16:26
Is this racist?
Nope...Thin skin...
DD~
DoubleDog
09-27-2008, 16:30
I am so sick of the racism tag...
Get over it!
Everyone else has...
DD~
Glockphobia
09-27-2008, 16:34
make him a jerk chicken cassarole, and everything will be good.
Apparently he told every single person I work with that I am a racist bigot.I have not read all the replies . . . that said . . . I would contact his company and complain. If he was offended by your comment he should have either said something to you directly or to your supervisor. Going to your co-workers was uncalled for, especially if your comment was a one-time/first-time incident. Him telling your co-workers that you are a racist bigot was an effort to harm you and damage your reputation.
Dirty Dealer
09-27-2008, 16:57
Don't sweat it, you don't need friends like that.
I would complain to your boss that he's calling you a racist bigot, it's not right that he can call you names and get away with it.
And to think you actually own firearms...scary.Its sad when folks who are making very rational arguments have to resort to insults . . .:sigh:
Clyde in CO
09-27-2008, 17:01
Yes, this IS 2008. And sadly racism is still alive and kickin' baby.
As far as the pres being black. There a people voting for him because of this, as well as people voting against him because of this. Like I said, its still alive and kicking and it works both ways. Blacks are just as racist as Whites. I don't care if the pres is Green, he wants to take my guns so he's no friend of mine.
In fact, if he knew his history, as a Black American he should be all for legal gun ownership. After all, the roots of gun control stemmed from racism after all.
I agree with you there, on all points.
Dirty Dealer
09-27-2008, 17:03
Racism is alive and well in all corners of the world.
Sometimes you just say the wrong thing. These days it's getting easier and easier to do. Folks seem to be a lot more sensitive than they used to be and then a lot of people are just looking for an excuse to go off. I find myself just zipping my lip more and more and being the straight man.
I once asked a black guy working the parts counter at a dealership if the part I needed was gonna cost me an arm and a leg. He turned around and gave me a dirty look, and then.....
I noticed he only had one arm. :wow:
Seriously. True story.
Foot in Mouth Disease, definitely. Not rascism, but since I was a white dude saying it to a black guy, some would paint it as rascism.
When he saw the look on my face when I saw he only had one arm, he chilled out, but the girl working the counter with him was having such a hard time keeping from busting out laughing she had to go out into the warehouse to stifle herself.
I see we both suffer from the same “foot in mouth syndrome”. Nice to meet you, :wavey:I hear they are working on a vaccine for us.
Ol Timer
09-27-2008, 17:05
Perhaps he feels that you view his position of "pushing a giant cartful of crap" as slave work, something beneath what you would allow yourself to do.
Just don't have your fragile ebay purchases sent to your work address. He may decide to practice for the Jamaican futbol team before they reach your desk.
I don't believe you are racist. You just didn't choose your words well.
I can see both sides to this so I'm not going to judge you.
A person has to choose thier words more carefully sometimes though because I know a lot of people who use the phrases like.... .. Man, that is so gay....or...That's so retarded. Some people don't like it and I respect that.
I grew up not using these phrases and after a while , it becomes second nature not to say them because you don't think of them in the first place. I especially don't ever use the "N" word because I think it lacks respect. Just like I don't like the " White trash" words. ALL people should respect each other. Doesn't matter what color they are.
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