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ghostrider_23
09-27-2008, 14:50
I am thinking of getting either a G22 or a G37. I am not crazy about the 40 caliber due to it's muzzle flip. :crying:

Of those of you that have a 45Gap, how is the muzzle and recoil??????

I would get a 21 SF and that would be the end of my search, but even with the reduced grip it's still too big for my hands.

Please tell me as much as you can about the GAP.

I would like to own one, but will say the lack of stores that carry the Gap ammo is making me rethink things.

Quiet
09-27-2008, 17:08
I carry and shoot the .45GAP.

I happend upon it, when trying to determine which Glock subcompact to get.
I handled & shot the Glock 26 (9x19mm), 27 (.40S&W), 33 (.357SIG) & 39 (.45GAP).

For me, felt recoil is less with a .45GAP than with the .40S&W & .357SIG.
Recoil is more of a push, less snap with the .45GAP when compared to the .40S&W.
I'm also more accurate shooting the .45GAP than with the .40S&W, .357SIG & 9x19mm.

As much as the naysayers want to say the .45GAP is dead, four state law enforcement agencies have adopted the .45GAP.
As long as law enforcement supports a particular round, that round will not die out.
So, the .45GAP will be around of quite some time.

Purchase ammo online.
It's cheaper and the prices bring it within that of .45ACP ammo.

After shooting .45GAP for about 1-2 years and .40S&W for about 6 years, I'm sold on the .45GAP and perfer it over .40S&W.

david3000
09-27-2008, 17:15
I sold my Glock 23 to buy the Glock 38 .45 GAP. I couldn't be happier! The recoil is milder and the .45 offers superier stopping power.

mrnuke7571
09-27-2008, 18:19
Damn man. How many sections of this forum did you post the same question?:supergrin:

I gave my 2cents on one of them, too lazy to type it all up again.

Glock38 all the way by the way.

engineer151515
09-27-2008, 18:22
Damn man. How many sections of this forum did you post the same question?:supergrin:......

Playing it super conservative... :rofl:

packinaglock
09-29-2008, 10:34
Damn man. How many sections of this forum did you post the same question?:supergrin:

I gave my 2cents on one of them, too lazy to type it all up again.

Glock38 all the way by the way.
I also gave my 2 cents earlier, but .45GAP for sure :supergrin:

MSgt Dotson
10-12-2008, 11:18
The .40 really has no real muzzle flip with normal 180 grainers at 975 fps....

Can't tell it apart from my Glock 21's recoil...

mrnuke7571
10-13-2008, 09:20
The .40 really has no real muzzle flip with normal 180 grainers at 975 fps....

Can't tell it apart from my Glock 21's recoil...

You REALLY need to shoot them more then.:supergrin:

I used to have a 21sf and when comparing it to a 23 it had 1/2 the recoil. WAY less. 21's are the softest recoiling glocks around, the 40sw glcoks are the harshest.

gary newport
10-13-2008, 17:04
The .40 really has no real muzzle flip with normal 180 grainers at 975 fps....

Can't tell it apart from my Glock 21's recoil...

I could. That is why I no longer own a G22 and G23! :cool:

Dean
10-13-2008, 17:49
Partner, you have to TRAIN WITH THE WEAPON.
You must master it including it's recoil.
The same is true of the 9mm Glock and the J-frame .38 caliber revolver.
The round ignites and explodes inside the gun, driving the bullet out the barrel.
You must train so that you can take this for granted as you concentrate on tactics and survival. The gun won't help you. It is a tool you may use to help yourself, if you are well trained and experienced in it's use. :drillsgt:

MSgt Dotson
10-13-2008, 18:42
Both feel like light recoilers to me! (I handload for my GLock 35, currently a 155 gr Flatpoint at 1140 fps, and it also feels gentle...)

(Shoot a few targets DA with 5" Smith 29 with 200 gr flatpoints at 1300 fps, or 4" K frame with 125 gr at 1400 fps, and most autos feel gentle afterwards!)

gary newport
10-14-2008, 15:18
Both feel like light recoilers to me! (I handload for my GLock 35, currently a 155 gr Flatpoint at 1140 fps, and it also feels gentle...)

(Shoot a few targets DA with 5" Smith 29 with 200 gr flatpoints at 1300 fps, or 4" K frame with 125 gr at 1400 fps, and most autos feel gentle afterwards!)

...or touch off a round in a S&W .460! :wow: Thunder and lightning -- the rangemaster ran out of his office demanding to know "What the hell was that?" before banning the hand-cannon from the range! (No, it wasn't my revolver and I wouldn't want to shoot one again.)

Still, I'd rather not have to shoot a full-house magnum revolver in order to 'appreciate" my semi-autos! :cool:

mesteve2
10-14-2008, 16:26
.45 GAP.

Get it and you will not need another calilber

The . 40 is the worst recoil of all the Glocks.

So get a .45 GAP.

Join the rest of the Glock people and be a GAPer.

JETHRO38
08-05-2009, 12:17
I am thinking of getting either a G22 or a G37. I am not crazy about the 40 caliber due to it's muzzle flip. :crying:

Of those of you that have a 45Gap, how is the muzzle and recoil??????

I would get a 21 SF and that would be the end of my search, but even with the reduced grip it's still too big for my hands.

Please tell me as much as you can about the GAP.

I would like to own one, but will say the lack of stores that carry the Gap ammo is making me rethink things.


I love my 38! I carry every day!

chad745
08-05-2009, 13:14
I carry the G39. It's a handfull with full-house loads, but with my realoads, I can shoot it all day. SD loads are still less recoil than thier 40SW counterparts though. But either way, I want my weapon to be conforting, I don't care about confortable so much.

Cappi
08-05-2009, 14:18
Gap all the way over 40

but I'm not a fan of 40 cal in general.
The three pistols I owned in 40 cal are long gone as well as the loading dies

So I'm going by memory when comparing their felt recoil and control compared to my G38.

230gr and 185gr GAP seem less of a recoil impulse compared to any 40cal rnd.
200gr SD loads seem to be the hottest (from the few I've shot so far) and would be comparable to 40's BANG.

40 is still a different recoil impulse compared to 200gr GAP.
It's a faster "bang/whack" compared to GAP

But to "my" shooting skills, GAP is much more manageable round to put on target in a hurry


..L.T.A.

sberrysc
08-05-2009, 14:26
I have a 39 subcompact .45 GAP that is the same size as the G26. It holds 6+1 and it is the easiest to shoot compared to the .357 sig or the .40 it pushes and does not jar. It is a fine gun. The ammo is not hard to find and the subcompact is very concealable.

legacy38
08-05-2009, 17:36
My issued pistols are a Kimber TLE/RLII, a Glock 23 (standard issue), and a Glock 18 (yes, I'm issued one). Even with the above selection of pistols at my disposal most days you will find me carrying a Glock 38 that I self purchased. I think that is a pretty good endorsement.

VOLGRAD
08-05-2009, 18:47
My issued pistols are a Kimber TLE/RLII, a Glock 23 (standard issue), and a Glock 18 (yes, I'm issued one). Even with the above selection of pistols at my disposal most days you will find me carrying a Glock 38 that I self purchased. I think that is a pretty good endorsement.

I can confirm all that he just said. His Sheriff also carries a personally owned G38.

rns-glock37
08-09-2009, 12:49
i too was looking at the sf line of glocks when i was trying to decide between the gap, acp, and the 40. i just didn't like the 40 and the feel and everything i've read about the sf line is that glock had to reduce the backstrap in order to make the grip more slim. as i understand it, the reduction in the backstrap has resulted in a increase in recoil compared to the standard 45 gun. my follow up shots from the gap has been much more accurate than any other gun i've used. gap all the way!!!!

jeremy1
08-13-2009, 00:24
My first Glock was a G22. Afte learning the trigger and getting used to the recoil I shot it well. Not great, but I thought that it was acceptable. Some of my other pistols shot better but I just accepted that I wouldn't shoot a Glock better than a 1911 or beretta 92.
When I bought my G37 it shot significantly more accurate than my G22. Recoil doesn't bother me and I didn't notice a big difference between the two. The G37 is by far my favourite pistol, and I wouldn't sell it or trade it EVER. The G22 is long gone and I probally won't buy another one. GAP ammo is plentiful in my area. Price is a buck a box more than .40, and cheaper than ACP, which keeps me happy.

cowboy1964
02-17-2010, 17:42
GAP ammo is plentiful in my area. Price is a buck a box more than .40, and cheaper than ACP, which keeps me happy.

I know this message is 6 months old but is GAP still cheaper than ACP in your area? What area is that?

Cappi
02-18-2010, 21:22
I know this message is 6 months old but is GAP still cheaper than ACP in your area? What area is that?

'bought the same unless wal-mart has the WWB valpacs in stock
other wise, all the gun shops and sports stores in my area are about the same
50 to 60 cents pr round ($25 to $29 pr 50rnd box)
Wal-mart's acp WWB 100 rnd val pac goes for 30 to 36 cents pr round depending on the store.
Ren UMC 250 rnd bulk packs ring up to about 35 cents pr round

..L.T.A.

G8Kpr
02-18-2010, 22:30
Just get a 38 and move on with life. Shoot it enough to call it your own and you'll forget you ever thought about the 40. Trust us, when you have what you're looking for, you quit wondering about what else is out there.

After dozens of buy/swap/sell/trades over the last 2 decades (you name it, I've had it for the most part), and over 16 years of CCW, my 'carry battery' consists of a G32 (great deal w/ Glock 9mm conv barrel for range and practice), an alloy Para LTC 45 (just got a 1911 carry fetish I can't shake), an Airweight J-Frame S&W (everybody's gotta have one), and the G38 (90% of my EDC with the rest making up the other 10%). Day in and day out, after years of trying what's out there, when I strap up in the morning the G38 is the hardest to leave behind. If I carry anything else, it's either special purpose/intent, or just in the mood for something different - otherwise it's business as usual with the G38.

BTW, not to trash it, but my first ever auto was a 2nd Gen G23 - just HAD to have it back in '91. I hated it! It was supposed to be it for me, and it never was. I never shot well with it regardless of loading, and always had to talk myself into being comfortable carrying it. Finally traded it on a Ruger Speed-Six back in '97 and swore off Glocks FOREVER - until I got a great deal on a 3rd Gen G19 a few years back from an IDPA buddy of mine. Then I found the G38. Now I'm a certified Glockophile as bad as any of the rest of those sickos out there. :supergrin: What can I say? A man is only so strong... :upeyes:

srd
02-19-2010, 05:54
As far a pricing on ammo ? Just introduce yourself to a new hobby... reloading for the GAP and the problem is solved. You will be able to shoot more for less and become proficient with your new GAP.

jeremy1
02-20-2010, 14:54
Prices have gone up but are still the same as ACP. 40 has gone up considerably to the point where I wouldn't buy that calibre strictly due to ammo cost. Im in Canada so prices are much different thatn in the US. If you are only planning on owning 1 pistol but want to shoot, do your self a favour and get the AA 22 conversion kit. Have one and use it a enough to be worth it.