View Full Version : GOT PICKED UP FOR ACTIVE DUTY!!!!!!!!!! Hoooah!
This past Wednesday, I got great news from Cadet Command. LTC Jeffress, my battalion commander called me and all the other MS 4 cadets in with important news.
The OML (order of merit list) had come in.... This list determines how many cadets nationwide will be picked up for ACTIVE DUTY service. Essentially, if you dont place high enough on the OML, you get placed in the Reserves or National Guard. This is not to say that the Reserves and National Guard are bad, its just where they put those that dont get active duty. That being said.... The LTC called me into his office and gave me some of the best news of my life...
He was at his desk when I walked in and I reported as ordered, shot him a salute, and then took my seat. He looked at me and smiled and said, "Cadet Tucker, you are going to be a 2nd Lieutenant in the ACTIVE US Army." I was very happy to hear this news and was pumped! Needless to say, nothing could have made my day or week less than great after hearing this news!!!
On 28OCT2008, the branching results come in. I am going into my counseling regarding my branches here on Monday at 1230. I will arrange my branches to the best of my ability to see to it that I get what I want. And to be honest, I dont really care what I get branched. This year's OML was VERY competitive and I am just glad that I was selected to serve our country as a 2LT on ACTIVE duty. Whatever branch I get, I am going to have a good attitude and go to my unit, with the mindset to learn from my PSG and my Squad Leaders and be the best 2LT I can be. I had to share this great news with all my boys on board! HOOOAH!!!!
Cavalry Doc
09-27-2008, 17:18
:patriot:
congrats sir. Thank you for your service.
THanks guys. I am ready to be done with grad school and get to my unit and do the Army thing full-time.
intheburbs
09-27-2008, 17:28
Megacongrats to you, sir. That's fantastic. Thank you for your service.
Enjoy every minute of it.
It will pass so fast.
And thank you for your service.
Do you think they'd take a 55 year old male, retired USAF?
I'd give anything, do anything, be anywhere at any time, just to
get back in the game.
I'll cook, empty toilets, you name it.
I should have stayed in the USAF until they threw me out.
I should not have gotten out at 21 years.
Guns & Cockpits
09-27-2008, 17:41
Congratulations man! It's great to hear the excitement and enthusiasm that you have!
I too, retired from the USAF after 21 years. A few years later, I tried to go back to active duty when the Guard unit for my town needed medics bad, but because you VOLUNTARILY retired from active duty, they put a big V on you DD-214 and you can no longer go back to active duty in ANY capacity.....It really stinks, I would love to go back to the sandbox for a 3rd tour.
Trademark
09-27-2008, 17:42
Congradulations; SIR!
FLRon777
09-27-2008, 17:43
Congratulations! I wish you all the best and thank you for your service!
Congrats! And good luck in getting somewhere you will be happy.
Do you have any desire to go combat infantry route? Airborne, Rangers, SF?
For the record, I havent SERVED anything or anyone yet, I am a lowly cadet. In 7-8 months, I will be serving. Thank you for the kind words but some of the praise, I do not deserve at this point. You guys are very kind to wish me the luck you are. I am very honored to have the chance to be an active duty officer in the mighty Army of the United States. I dont think I would be content working for any other agency in the nation. I am so honored words befall me.
If I get branched Infantry, I will have no choice in going to Ranger school.
If you need someone to shine your shoes, clean your weapon, keep
me in mind.
21 years retired USAF MSgt. At the ready, Sir!
mwheeler
09-27-2008, 18:18
meshmdz- My Army service was many years ago, but I find your enthusiasm refreshing. It has blown away the clouds and doubt I sometimes feel about this Great Nation. It would be a privilege to render a salute to a new 2nd LT in person, so accept this posting in that spirit. When you raise your right hand to take the oath in my signature, remember that if you ever leave the U.S. Army, they will not ask you to renounce the oath. Take that oath seriously for the rest of your life! God bless the United States of America!
meshmdz- my army service was many years ago, but i find your enthusiasm refreshing. It has blown away the clouds and doubt i sometimes feel about this great nation. It would be a privilege to render a salute to a new 2nd lt in person, so accept this posting in that spirit. When you raise your right hand to take the oath in my signature, remember that if you ever leave the u.s. Army, they will not ask you to renounce the oath. Take that oath seriously for the rest of your life! God bless the united states of america!
Amen!!! Well said!!!
I feel so undeserving of the kind words here gentlemen. I am very thankful for the service of many members of this establishment. Every male member of my family has served as an enlisted soldier in this nation's Army since the Continental Army was founded by the 1st Continental Congress over 200+ years ago. With a record this deep in my family, I feel it as my most solemn duty to follow my father's steps and his father's. I feel that everyone should serve this nation that has existed in freedom for so long and served us so preciously.
I will definitely keep you all posted as to what I get branched and no matter if it is Quartermaster or INFANTRY I will take it as a great thing and do the very best I can. Hooah!
And to that MSG up there - any pointers on how to be a good cherry in the Army?
sigpro357
09-27-2008, 18:30
Let me tell you something young man. You do deserve praise, and respect. You are willing to sign on the dotted line, and put your best foot forward for your nation. No one can ever take that from you, and at the same time you have done more than the probably 90 percent of the other young people your age. Be proud. You will do well. Best regards. :wavey:
Clyde in CO
09-27-2008, 18:32
Congratulations and good luck in all you do Lieutenant.
For the record, I havent SERVED anything or anyone yet, I am a lowly cadet. In 7-8 months, I will be serving. Thank you for the kind words but some of the praise, I do not deserve at this point. You guys are very kind to wish me the luck you are. I am very honored to have the chance to be an active duty officer in the mighty Army of the United States. I dont think I would be content working for any other agency in the nation. I am so honored words befall me.
If I get branched Infantry, I will have no choice in going to Ranger school.
Congratulations! Benning School for Boys is a great way to start out in the military. Don't sweat Ranger school. When your in IOBC you will get the training you need. Listen to the OCS guys but don't take all their combat stories seriously (I would imagine that IOBC is full of them by now).
Good Luck! :wavey:
I like the fact that you want to earn for your NCO's. I remember far too many butter bars that thought they were the **** and nothing to learn from the lowly enlisted.
Remember a good NCO will make your career as well as a good Officer will make his. It's like a marriage, you have to know where the sweet spot is, the rest is smooth sailing.
Thank you very much gentlemen.
Sam Spade
09-27-2008, 18:41
Congratulations, Shavetail. Hold on, it's going to be a helluva ride. Let me give you the same advice that I got upon commissioning: Strive to be worthy of your men.
And send mwheeler $1 GT Casino Cash for your first salute. (Cavdoc's doesn't count--he outranks you.) :cool:
GET SOME!!
That's awesome man. This sounds like something that you've worked hard to get.
I like the fact that you want to earn for your NCO's. I remember far too many butter bars that thought they were the **** and nothing to learn from the lowly enlisted.
Remember a good NCO will make your career as well as a good Officer will make his. It's like a marriage, you have to know where the sweet spot is, the rest is smooth sailing.
I never spent anytime enlisted but I do know one thing. Without "the boys," no battle is ever fought or won. I am a huge Civil War buff and my heroes, GEN Lee, LTG NB Forrest, LTG Longstreet, and BG Armistead always, when praised, gave it back to those who deserved it; their "boys."
I in no way could ever match those great Americans' stature but I can sure as hell follow their lead. And THAT is exactly what I intend to do.
HerrGlock
09-27-2008, 18:47
Oh hell, another butterbar :supergrin:
Congrats! Let us know how it's going and where you're going, if you would.
Congrats soldier, and thank you for your service:patriot:
I will DEFINITELY keep all my boys on GT posted when I find out what branch I get. I will know 28OCT2008. Pray for me!
okie, do you REALLY have 78,000+ posts!!!!! WOW! thats awesome man!
Congratulations soldier! Make us all proud.
the very best,
Jefs
Jwhargrove
09-27-2008, 18:58
Thank you very much for your service and dedication. :patriot:
I'm actually an MSIV this year as well and was tickled about the OML too. out of the 4417 people who were on it, which percentile did you fall into. If you know it will help you know which branch you're going to get...
Were you by chance in 7th reg at camp this year? Did you go to AAS before camp.... we might know each other if so:wavey:
Congratulations Sir
I hope that positive attitude and motivation stays with you throughout your career.
10-32
SPC USA
Congratulations on all of your hard work paying off as you wanted it to.
And thank you for taking the reigns on leading those who will hopefully continue to make us proud. It's in the hands of people just like you, Sir. Go above and beyond.
Annoyedgrunt
09-27-2008, 19:54
Congratulations! I served active duty in the USMC for 5 years, and am starting to think more and more that I should have stayed in. In fact, this coming Monday will be the 10-year anniversary of getting on the bus to Parris Island. Would I do it all again? Effin-A right I would. Enjoy every minute of it, and DO NOT take it for granted. Some of the best friends you'll ever make, and some of the best times you will ever have will be in the service. And like has been said, you will be putting yourself on the line for your country, and there is no greater honor.
:patriot::patriot:
JasonC8301
09-27-2008, 20:00
I recommend the SF branch and best of luck to you.
hey man, no I was 15th Regiment. How did you fall on the OML?
Thanks again to all the guys who are wishing us all support!!!!
I'm actually an MSIV this year as well and was tickled about the OML too. out of the 4417 people who were on it, which percentile did you fall into. If you know it will help you know which branch you're going to get...
Were you by chance in 7th reg at camp this year? Did you go to AAS before camp.... we might know each other if so:wavey:
SFLglock
09-27-2008, 20:28
Congrats & thank you :patriot:
nursetim
09-27-2008, 20:32
Congratulations Lieutenant, Thank you for your intrest in national service.
Congratulations! Thank you for dedication and enthusiasm in defending all this country stands for.
Thanks to all you guys for lavishing me in undeserved praise. I wish I could shake all your hands personally as a token of thanks.
Well to be perfectly honest I think i've had senioritis for a couple years now so my GPA wasnt the best (3.20) however, I got an easy E at camp and ended up assessing just under 1600 out of 4416.36th percentile if my math is right. Not great, not bad... I've been an acting PL w/ my guard unit for a while now so I opted to stay w/ them and pursue a career in law enforcement. Its practically all the same considering all the guard units get deployed now a days too :cool:. Best of luck not getting chemical :tongueout:
Well to be perfectly honest I think i've had senioritis for a couple years now so my GPA wasnt the best (3.20) however, I got an easy E at camp and ended up assessing just under 1600 out of 4416.36th percentile if my math is right. Not great, not bad... I've been an acting PL w/ my guard unit for a while now so I opted to stay w/ them and pursue a career in law enforcement. Its practically all the same considering all the guard units get deployed now a days too :cool:. Best of luck not getting chemical :tongueout:
HAHAHAHA! Chemical! :rofl::wavey: Man, I just want to be an Army Officer. I dont really care what I get branched. I think I will get a good branch. Good luck with police work. I am going to go back to it after I get out of the Army, after 20 years. Then draw another retirement. LDAC was a joke. I did well and am glad to be back home.
Congrats and I hope you lucked out and it didn't rain on you in Ft. Lewis. Back in the day when I went it, rained every day I was in the field. To add insult to injury, the WF course is divided into two parts and we were in the swamp half. :faint:
MI is the best branch! :tongueout:
"Always out front!"
ETA: Found an old pic of me at Ft. Lewis.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9002/ldacjk7.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ldacjk7.jpg)http://img521.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
We got luck y in 15th regiment. It didnt rain on us one day! MI is the hardest branch to get and I doubt i can get it unless I AD-SO for it.
And stay out of the way of those grumpy CWO's
....such as Doc.
:rofl: :rofl: :wavey:
I would do anything to get into MI... think of the government agency possibilities after your time in the Army. Or even during.
A 2LT should NEVER tell a Chief WO to do ANYTHING!
agentl074
09-27-2008, 22:25
This past Wednesday, I got great news from Cadet Command. LTC Jeffress, my battalion commander called me and all the other MS 4 cadets in with important news.
The OML (order of merit list) had come in.... This list determines how many cadets nationwide will be picked up for ACTIVE DUTY service. Essentially, if you dont place high enough on the OML, you get placed in the Reserves or National Guard. This is not to say that the Reserves and National Guard are bad, its just where they put those that dont get active duty. That being said.... The LTC called me into his office and gave me some of the best news of my life...
He was at his desk when I walked in and I reported as ordered, shot him a salute, and then took my seat. He looked at me and smiled and said, "Cadet Tucker, you are going to be a 2nd Lieutenant in the ACTIVE US Army." I was very happy to hear this news and was pumped! Needless to say, nothing could have made my day or week less than great after hearing this news!!!
On 28OCT2008, the branching results come in. I am going into my counseling regarding my branches here on Monday at 1230. I will arrange my branches to the best of my ability to see to it that I get what I want. And to be honest, I dont really care what I get branched. This year's OML was VERY competitive and I am just glad that I was selected to serve our country as a 2LT on ACTIVE duty. Whatever branch I get, I am going to have a good attitude and go to my unit, with the mindset to learn from my PSG and my Squad Leaders and be the best 2LT I can be. I had to share this great news with all my boys on board! HOOOAH!!!!
Congratulations 2nd Lieutenant:wavey:
Congratulations. Keep the sun at your back!:cool:
Congratulations! Thank you for your service!
Congrats LT, we need more good men like you in our commissioned ranks. BTW... I'd rather be a "Lowly Cadet" over an E anything, so take pride in that.
RMTactical
09-28-2008, 00:48
God bless LT!
J.M.Towers
09-28-2008, 01:47
Great job man!
Infantry is what you want, even if you aren't branched, you'll likely get branch detailed.
Do the time, get that CIB and carry on with your career.
:cool:
Let me warn you to not get discouraged, when you realize many/most of your peers will likely lack the motivation and commitment you have.
Brush your shoulders off..
USMCSergeant
09-28-2008, 02:37
Ooorah Sir!
Dont be like most 2nd Lt's, take advice from your combat experienced enlisted, we are a great resource of information. Good luck to you sir!
HerrGlock
09-28-2008, 05:35
And stay out of the way of those grumpy CWO's
:eyebrow:
:animlol: http://www.ankylosaur.com/images/newsmilies/pilot.gif
Congratulations. Thank you for your service. Best of luck to you.
Congratulations! And Welcome!
(Let me just state that, no matter where you went, even Reserve or NG, you'd end up on active duty; just not regular Army.)
Let me just add...
If you must go combat arms. But, be advised, I would look a lot closer at some of the other options if you're going to make a career out of it. I would suggest Logistics, Civil Affairs, or Aviation. Those are going to be growing fields with more promotion opportunities than Combat Arms. Those are also slots that have been (in the past) relegated to Reserve and NG personnel, but with the new Brigade re-org they are looking for qualified officers to fill those slots. Lots more billets in the tail than in the tooth, and better career opportunities when you get out.
So far I have watched 4 of my officers make BG, 2 make MG, have a COL on the promotable list, and 2 more who will make it in the next 2-3 years. None are Combat Arms branch, and all have mid -six figure incomes waiting for them after they leave.
Just my $0.02.
geminicricket
09-28-2008, 09:46
OP, good for you and us all.
Fill my lacking of info, since I know nothing: Are you in graduate school? Are you in ROTC?
When you leave grad school to serve in the Army, will you intend to resume and complete your studies? What are your studies?
OP, good for you and us all.
Fill my lacking of info, since I know nothing: Are you in graduate school? Are you in ROTC?
When you leave grad school to serve in the Army, will you intend to resume and complete your studies? What are your studies?
I got my bachelors on a track scholarship back in 2005. I then worked as a jailer here locally at the sheriffs office for a short time, then I received an Army ROTC scholarship to pay for my Masters. I am in my very last semester and will commission in May 2009. I will have a bachelors and a masters when I commission. I am a little older than some of the other cadets, most of them are about 21 or 22, Im 24, but at least I already have my bachelors and almost my Masters. I have kept my nose in the books because I have always wanted to get as much education as I can. Perhaps I am a nerd when it comes to wanting to be educated. I enjoy graduate school and the scholarly circle that it places you at the table of.
THank you again to all the guys who have commented. I welcome any advice anyone may have! :cool:
HerrGlock
09-28-2008, 12:14
If you must go combat arms. But, be advised, I would look a lot closer at some of the other options if you're going to make a career out of it. I would suggest Logistics, Civil Affairs, or Aviation. Those are going to be growing fields with more promotion opportunities than Combat Arms.
Aviation is a combat arms branch.
You're off to a fantastic start. Don't risk anything that could ruin it. Stay the hell away from idiots.
Aviation is a combat arms branch
Prehaps I should have specified. Go UAV. A growth field.
I have a meeting with the LTC tomorrow at 1230 and I will be talking with him about what all I should place high on my list as the accessions board convenes here within the next month.
I got my bachelors on a track scholarship back in 2005. I then worked as a jailer here locally at the sheriffs office for a short time, then I received an Army ROTC scholarship to pay for my Masters. I am in my very last semester and will commission in May 2009. I will have a bachelors and a masters when I commission. I am a little older than some of the other cadets, most of them are about 21 or 22, Im 24, but at least I already have my bachelors and almost my Masters. I have kept my nose in the books because I have always wanted to get as much education as I can. Perhaps I am a nerd when it comes to wanting to be educated. I enjoy graduate school and the scholarly circle that it places you at the table of.
THank you again to all the guys who have commented. I welcome any advice anyone may have! :cool:
Brains and brawn is a combo that will serve you nicely in life. Congrats to you. I really enjoy reading your posts - you're the type of man I wish we had more of. My hat's off to you, friend - you've already made us proud.
Thanks you Jefs. Im just a normal 24 year old guy from Tennessee, who is excited about his career that will be an exciting one. :)
If by pure % I believe that Armor has more Generals than any other branch. Infantry is a second.... which made no sense to me but I guess King of Battle gets their day too I guess.
Good luck!
If by pure % I believe that Armor has more Generals than any other branch. Infantry is a second.... which made no sense to me but I guess King of Battle gets their day too I guess.
Good luck!
King of Battle = Field Artillery
Queen of Battle = Infantry
kapthook
09-28-2008, 16:30
Just went thru the process this past year. I hope your PMS is well knowledged in the game and can give the lowdown on what you want and what it means for you in your OML ranking.
If your not top 10% then it really is a big game. The top 10-30% should get one of their top 3 choices but then the 30-70% are pretty much branched needs of the Army since they cannot put all the top leaders in Combat Arms and none in Support.
If you have your brain set on something and you think the Army life is for you then sign up for the extra 3 years to get a guaranteed branch. Do not sign up for the guaranteed assignment as most of the time you will be in theatre or in the field. The guaranteed masters doesnt apply to you and your set with education all the way to LTC. After that you'll need Command and Staff. You can play with assignments after your first PCS. Good luck soon to be LT.
Just went thru the process this past year. I hope your PMS is well knowledged in the game and can give the lowdown on what you want and what it means for you in your OML ranking.
If your not top 10% then it really is a big game. The top 10-30% should get one of their top 3 choices but then the 30-70% are pretty much branched needs of the Army since they cannot put all the top leaders in Combat Arms and none in Support.
If you have your brain set on something and you think the Army life is for you then sign up for the extra 3 years to get a guaranteed branch. Do not sign up for the guaranteed assignment as most of the time you will be in theatre or in the field. The guaranteed masters doesnt apply to you and your set with education all the way to LTC. After that you'll need Command and Staff. You can play with assignments after your first PCS. Good luck soon to be LT.
Hey sir, thanks for your response. All what you said has been said to me pretty much by others in my cadre. I am not sure if I should AD-SO or not. I go to my meeting with the LTC tomorrow at 1230 so I will keep everyone posted as to the results of that meeting. Hoooah.
geminicricket
09-28-2008, 20:55
I got my bachelors on a track scholarship back in 2005. I then worked as a jailer here locally at the sheriffs office for a short time, then I received an Army ROTC scholarship to pay for my Masters. I am in my very last semester and will commission in May 2009. I will have a bachelors and a masters when I commission. I am a little older than some of the other cadets, most of them are about 21 or 22, Im 24,
My daughter is a nurse, is 22, and is studying for a BSN, and considering joining the Army. I want to match-make you two.
blackjack
09-28-2008, 21:18
Congratulations and welcome to the Big Green Machine!! Your news draws me back to my own commissioning 30 years ago this December as a 2LT of Field Artillery -- came across the picture of it when going thru my mom's stuff when she passed away last year -- gosh, I even had hair!!
Much good advice here on listening to seasoned NCOs and CWOs -- heed it, follow the old saw about being given two ears and one mouth for a reason. Every lesson I learned while on active duty has had a civilian application, you can go far with your education no matter if you remain in the Army or choose to return to civilian life.
Teufelhunde
09-28-2008, 22:13
Congrats, Lieutenant, and if an old Marine may be allowed to offer a short word of advice, listen to your NCO's. Whatever MOS (is that what the army calls it?) you are assigned, your NCO's will listen to you and respect you, but you must also listen to them and respect their years of experience. Do that and you will go far.
Lon
My daughter is a nurse, is 22, and is studying for a BSN, and considering joining the Army. I want to match-make you two.
Sounds like she is headed for success! Tell her to research Army ROTC at her college. They will give her a full ride and pay for everything. For example, last week, my school contracted 3 new freshman cadets for a grand total of scholarships worth $219,000.000. Thats alot of $ considering the House just shot down Bush's plan, sadly.
agentl074
09-29-2008, 15:17
My school had ROTC but not anymore - great way to get commissioned.
When will you know for sure what branch you were selected for?
When will you know for sure what branch you were selected for?
Here within the next few weeks. I will let everyone know. Here is my branch listing that I turned into the LTC today in my counseling meeting.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/blog.php?b=93
Sam White
09-29-2008, 15:47
From what I've heard, if you list Quartermaster as one of your choices, you'll probably get it. Congratulations and good luck with your career.:cool:
What's in the AG Corps that makes it interesting for you? I don't know much about them.
Thanks.
First chance you get...go Aviation.
CPT_CRUNCH
11-17-2008, 12:32
You're off to a fantastic start. Don't risk anything that could ruin it. Stay the hell away from idiots.
stay away from idiots and enlisted chicks!!!
EagleOne716
11-17-2008, 20:30
Oh No....a butterbar. Hide the compasses and maps guys!!!! :rofl:
Just kidding LT. ....Congratulations on getting active duty.
Do us proud and, as the others have said...find yourself a good NCO and hang on his coattails. Learn from him. Give him your respect and he will make you a fine officer.
God bless and keep you son. The time will go all too fast and, next thing you know, it's over. And you will miss it, believe me, you WILL miss it.
From an 'old retired Senior NCO (US Army, MP Corps)
This past Wednesday, I got great news from Cadet Command. LTC Jeffress, my battalion commander called me and all the other MS 4 cadets in with important news.
The OML (order of merit list) had come in.... This list determines how many cadets nationwide will be picked up for ACTIVE DUTY service. Essentially, if you dont place high enough on the OML, you get placed in the Reserves or National Guard. This is not to say that the Reserves and National Guard are bad, its just where they put those that dont get active duty. That being said.... The LTC called me into his office and gave me some of the best news of my life...
He was at his desk when I walked in and I reported as ordered, shot him a salute, and then took my seat. He looked at me and smiled and said, "Cadet Tucker, you are going to be a 2nd Lieutenant in the ACTIVE US Army." I was very happy to hear this news and was pumped! Needless to say, nothing could have made my day or week less than great after hearing this news!!!
On 28OCT2008, the branching results come in. I am going into my counseling regarding my branches here on Monday at 1230. I will arrange my branches to the best of my ability to see to it that I get what I want. And to be honest, I dont really care what I get branched. This year's OML was VERY competitive and I am just glad that I was selected to serve our country as a 2LT on ACTIVE duty. Whatever branch I get, I am going to have a good attitude and go to my unit, with the mindset to learn from my PSG and my Squad Leaders and be the best 2LT I can be. I had to share this great news with all my boys on board! HOOOAH!!!!
Congratulations Lieutenant. I got picked up for active duty in 1987 and have enjoyed in immensely.
Live the Army Vales, learn from your mistakes and remember to duck when appropriate. I forgot that last piece of advice once and it hurts!
From what I've heard, if you list Quartermaster as one of your choices, you'll probably get it. Congratulations and good luck with your career.:cool:
Quartermaster is the largest branch in the Army. Then Ordinance, I think.
I would personally avoid any of those and go combat arms or combat support. Infantry, Armor, Field Artillery, Air Defense, Cavalry, Engineers, Military Police
shotgunred
11-18-2008, 01:35
I would like to congratulate on being the army's newest REMF.
Are you good in math? If so, then consider Engineers!
BTW, Sapper school is pretty high speed.
TheBelly
11-18-2008, 05:42
OK, I've stayed out of this for a while, but I just gotta put my 2 cents in:
Ordnance is a tough school. Many people recycle through that course, and it ends up taking them 9 months or so for the 6 month course.
Please PM me if you want to find out what it's like being the ONLY Logistics Officer in your Squadron/Battalion.
ETA: Ordnance is the 5th largest branch.
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