View Full Version : 5 minutes ago..........
NateHodge
09-27-2008, 18:47
I was reminded why I hate a ****ing cat.:steamed:
I was outside combing her shedding butt, trying to get some of the loose hair off of her, and letting her enjoy being outside since she never gets to go out. Well, a feral cat comes up, the same feral cat that has been coming around for a while that I feed. So I figure the best thing to do is to just wrap up the shedding and go inside.
Before I even get the door open, my OWN DAMN CAT turns and bites and claws ME. It catches me off guard so I accidentally drop her. Her and the feral cat hiss and take a couple of swings at each other. Instantly, I think, "Amanda would kill me if something happened to Sophie!" so I pick her up. WHat does she do?! You guessed it. Turns and bits me on the knuckle of my right index finger and claws my hand and wrist pretty good.
Now I remember why I like dogs. Loyalty. I have grabbed onto my dogs while they were fighting more times than I care to remember. Never once been bit, or even snarled at. The cat is gone. Rant off:steamed:
Your thoughts?
Get to the Dr. Very real potential for infection.
Which cat is gone? yours or the feral?
RenoF250
09-27-2008, 18:53
My cats have all learned it is a very bad idea to bit or scratch me.
bocephus549
09-27-2008, 18:53
Which cat is gone? yours or the feral?
Both I hope. Makes room for a dog.
My cats have all learned it is a very bad idea to bit or scratch me.
I like this guy :supergrin:
NateHodge
09-27-2008, 18:55
Which cat is gone? yours or the feral?
Both. The feral cat was plain starved when I started feeding her. She surely would have died had I not fed her. And she has had 3 litters of kittens since she has been here. Now I'm sure she is pregnant again. A tom cat that comes around when she is in heat has been around here for a few days, now is gone, so I'm sure he has done his work.
As for sophie, I refuse to feed and shelter something that will attack me.
My cats have all learned it is a very bad idea to bit or scratch me.
I gotta ask, how did you teach a cat not to bite or scratch you? I haven't cut this one any slack, if you catch my point. Not that it matters at this point.
I am not a cat lover so I can relate with you. No cats in my house, glad my lady does not like cats or we would have issues.
Cats do run away from home all the time don't they...:whistling:
Agonizer
09-27-2008, 19:38
It's not a good idea to pick up your cat when it is very upset by the presence of another cat.
Your cat was just being a cat. Probably scared s...less.
Give her a brake.
My cat follows me around the house like a puppy. But I know to leave her alone when she is upset.
It could have been worse....
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/Seepatay/catTimmy2.jpg
NateHodge
09-27-2008, 19:48
Give her a brake.
She's lucky she is still alive. As a matter of fact, she was headed toward the door with her head. She better be glad amanda opened it mid-swing.
Hummerbike
09-27-2008, 19:53
Definately get to a Doctor quickly.
A friend of mine was bitten by his daughters cat near the base of his thumb. It became infected and as a result he had to wear a back brace that screwed into the side of his head. He lost his job and ended up retiring early as a result of it.
The Doctor said cat bites are extremely serious.
filthy infidel
09-27-2008, 19:54
Did you find out how far she could FLY?
Did she land against a wall or the ground?
SergeantC
09-27-2008, 19:58
So: do cats land on their feet?
paynter2
09-27-2008, 19:58
There are no feral cats in my vicinity - that I'm aware of.
A friend's wife 'tamed' two cats in Arkansas last winter. She brought them north with her for the summer. She lets them out every day. I hate to think how many birds they killed.
Now that the leaves are turning - I'm going hunting. The white one should be easy to eliminate.
I have nothing against cats. But, the native fauna should not be expected to battle feral cats in order to survive.
NateHodge
09-27-2008, 19:58
Did you find out how far she could FLY?
Did she land against a wall or the ground?
Funny you should mention it. I have learned that with cats, if you throw them(don't ask me how I know) or jerk away, it makes the claw/bite worse. They will sink their claws or teeth in, but its when you pull away that they lacerate. This is why she was taking a trip toward a solid surface while still in my hand before amanda opened the door.
Porkchop
09-27-2008, 19:58
mine did the same thing to me when i was holding her and she saw another cat outside.i now know when there is another cat around not to pick her up.
SergeantC
09-27-2008, 20:01
One nice thing about Minnesota: hunting feral cats is legal here.
Annoyedgrunt
09-27-2008, 20:04
Get to the Dr. Very real potential for infection.
+1 on this. My mother was in the hospital for 6 days from a cat-bite. It wasn't even from a fight; our cat was sick and she had to shove pills down his throat, because there was no way he was eating them himself. (If we crushed the pills and sprinkled them on his food, he just wouldn't eat.) Anyway, he accidentally (?) bit her finger as he was being force-fed the pill, and it wound up being a bad infection. IIRC the doctor had to flay her finger open to clean it out.
mandiekrstyn07
09-27-2008, 21:18
okay....
longgonedays
09-27-2008, 21:24
Both I hope. Makes room for a dog.
Obligatory +1
mike1969
09-27-2008, 21:30
Cat scratch fever...Cat scratch fever... humming a nugent tune.
DJ Niner
09-27-2008, 22:02
Cat scratch fever...Cat scratch fever... humming a nugent tune.Thanks a bunch.
THAT one will be with me allllllllll night now... :steamed:
:supergrin:
Dennis in MA
09-28-2008, 00:38
Gee. There's a sure-fire solution to biting/clawing cat. In fact, you were closer to the solution than you realized. The solution is called Sideofthehouse.
Smack the cat up against Sideofthehouse and the crap stops. Repeat as necessary.
I don't take crap for anyone - certainly no cat. Never did. Me and the last cat had issues over that. None before that one. Now we have a dog. :)
theleafybug
09-28-2008, 01:16
we have two cats and i love them to death. my cat was rescued from a shelter and was nearly starved to death. he wouldn't eat on his own anymore when we got him. he was so sad/lonely/scared all the time still that we had to hold him and feed him by hand for a while. now, whenever i come home he runs to the front door and jumps up into my arms (when he was still a kitten, his favorite place to be in the entire world was on my shoulder... like a parrot). the only time he has ever bitten or clawed me is when i flip the string too fast and he misses and gets my hand by accident (even then he realizes its me and doesn't bite hard). never been clawed in anger or fear... our other cat is about as aggressive as a wet rag. she doesn't even meow when you hurt/scare her. she just lays down.
El Duderino
09-28-2008, 01:27
I refuse to feed and shelter something that will attack me.
.
Well that rules out kids and a wife.
One of our cats is almost human-like so I often use that as a test of how I should react. Sometimes it works, other times (since he's obviously not a human) it doesn't. In these cases I figured out he feels threatened and when he feels threatened he (like many humans) needs to feel in control of himself. If I take that control away he becomes scared and rebels against whatever is taking the control away. Sounds kinda silly to some people but it's worked for me. YMMV.
Well that rules out kids and a wife.
:rofl: Got that right Brother....
NateHodge
09-28-2008, 09:37
One of our cats is almost human-like so I often use that as a test of how I should react. Sometimes it works, other times (since he's obviously not a human) it doesn't. In these cases I figured out he feels threatened and when he feels threatened he (like many humans) needs to feel in control of himself. If I take that control away he becomes scared and rebels against whatever is taking the control away. Sounds kinda silly to some people but it's worked for me. YMMV.
I see your point. But as for the loyalty and trust that a good dog has, well, my dogs know that when I step in the mix, all fighting ceases end of story. They know that I will not hurt them, nor will I allow them to get hurt once I have complete control of them. They do exactly as I command because they are loyal and trust me completely. If that damn cat doesn't trust that she is safe in my arms and feels that she has to bite me, then she doesn't belong here. As master, I have control over any animal in this house. That's the way the chain of heiarchy falls.
I have made that clear to the cat. Since yesterday, she has avoided me like the plague. I told amanda she could stay since she somehow see's this as my fault and threw a fit about me "disposing" of her. But I will break her from sucking eggs. She will learn not to bite the hand that feeds her. (pun intended). My finger is a little sore and swollen, but I don't think it's quiet bad enough to get infected.
I gotta ask, how did you teach a cat not to bite or scratch you? I haven't cut this one any slack, if you catch my point. Not that it matters at this point.
22lr (unless its a big cat).
Tom Hanks has proven to us that we can talk to, name, befriend and morn the loss of a soccer ball. I suggest we all replace our cats with soccer balls:
1. It'll bounce right back when we kick it.
2. It will eat less (just a little air).
3. It will have a better personaility.
4. It will be more playfull (gravity, wind and accidents will occasionally make it roll).
5. The dog will be happy to play with it.
6. You can take it outside without worrying about lots of little soccer balls showing up.
7. Unless it gets punctured, no noise at night.
Minuteman
09-28-2008, 10:06
I see your point. But as for the loyalty and trust that a good dog has, well, my dogs know that when I step in the mix, all fighting ceases end of story. They know that I will not hurt them, nor will I allow them to get hurt once I have complete control of them. They do exactly as I command because they are loyal and trust me completely. If that damn cat doesn't trust that she is safe in my arms and feels that she has to bite me, then she doesn't belong here. As master, I have control over any animal in this house. That's the way the chain of heiarchy falls.
As far as cats are concerned; you are just the maid. Your job is to clean up after them and feed them. Dogs have masters, cats have staff.
TODDPT945
09-28-2008, 10:45
A dog can and will do the same thing.
NateHodge
09-28-2008, 11:17
A dog can and will do the same thing.
Can they? Absolutely. Will a good dog that has been taken care of and treated right? Absolutely not. For a cat, it doesn't matter how you treat them, as proven by my experience. This cat has been spoiled rotten and still turned on me.
As I said, I have broken up my two dogs more times than I can remember. Never once been bit, snapped at, or even growled at. A couple of times when they were younger, my hand had worked its way in their mouths and all they had to do is bite down. Did they? Absolutely not.
Normally, I leave their collars on for that exact reason. It gives me something to grab so I can break them up. One time after batheing them, they tied up and they didn't have their collars on. I couldn't grab their skin and pull hard enough, so I just grabbed one and wrestled him to the ground. As the other was coming toward us, I yelled the command to stay and he layed down right there. The one I tackled never even once thought of biting me. As a matter of fact, once he realized that his brother was obeying me, he immediately started licking me in the face.
Daryl in Az
09-28-2008, 11:38
Cats are allergic to me.
Daryl
23skidoo
09-28-2008, 11:57
It could have been worse....
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/Seepatay/catTimmy2.jpg
I just might have to change my avatar.:rofl::rofl::wavey:
As master, I have control over any animal in this house. That's the way the chain of heiarchy falls.
I'm the same way. We had a little dominance contest for a while, but that got resolved pretty quickly. However, although I could just bull through it like that, it helps me to think that way so I can anticipate what he's going to do.
ChuteTheMall
09-28-2008, 12:29
Swirley cat loves to clean herself.
:toilet:
Assuming your wife is not home, be sure to hold the toilet seat down while you flush the cat, then slam the bathroom door shut as you escape unscratched. The suddenly soaked swirley-cat will have no problem quickly escaping from the flushing toilet, but anyone trapped in the bathroom will have a problem.
When your wife comes home, you better have no idea how the cat fell into the toilet, while there was plenty of fresh drinking water available elsewhere.:whistling:
Or so I heard ....
That's what happens when you own a cat. Get rid of it and get a dog.
My gf was bitten by a stray cat she was trying to help and it got her thumb.
7,000 dollars, an infected tendon, and full rabies vaccines later, she is doing better.
My mistake?
Not shooting the cat the first time I saw it. Won't do that again.
Razoreye
09-28-2008, 22:57
Can they? Absolutely. Will a good dog that has been taken care of and treated right? Absolutely not. For a cat, it doesn't matter how you treat them, as proven by my experience. This cat has been spoiled rotten and still turned on me.
As I said, I have broken up my two dogs more times than I can remember. Never once been bit, snapped at, or even growled at. A couple of times when they were younger, my hand had worked its way in their mouths and all they had to do is bite down. Did they? Absolutely not.
Normally, I leave their collars on for that exact reason. It gives me something to grab so I can break them up. One time after batheing them, they tied up and they didn't have their collars on. I couldn't grab their skin and pull hard enough, so I just grabbed one and wrestled him to the ground. As the other was coming toward us, I yelled the command to stay and he layed down right there. The one I tackled never even once thought of biting me. As a matter of fact, once he realized that his brother was obeying me, he immediately started licking me in the face.
Of course! They don't mean to. My brothers and I have all been bitten on different occasions by our own dogs that were being held from going after another person/dog. We don't blame them at all. Same goes for cats, they're notoriously more jumpy.
My animals know who is boss and I don't feel the need to abuse or beat them due to my own insecurities. :upeyes:
To top it off, you fed the feral cat. Nice...
NateHodge
09-28-2008, 23:06
Of course! They don't mean to. My brothers and I have all been bitten on different occasions by our own dogs that were being held from going after another person/dog. We don't blame them at all. Same goes for cats, they're notoriously more jumpy.
My animals know who is boss and I don't feel the need to abuse or beat them due to my own insecurities. :upeyes:
To top it off, you fed the feral cat. Nice...
Not sure what you meant with the :upeyes:, but I have never abused or beat an animal, so I'm not really even sure what you meant by "insecurities". The feral cat isn't really a feral cat. More like abandoned by a previous tenant to fend for itself. She already wouldn't leave the apartment. It was basically starved and could hardly move she was so weak. If I hadn't fed her and she died, would you still be complaining?
Mushinto
09-28-2008, 23:46
Definately get to a Doctor quickly.
A friend of mine was bitten by his daughters cat near the base of his thumb. It became infected and as a result he had to wear a back brace that screwed into the side of his head. He lost his job and ended up retiring early as a result of it.
My cats have bitten me over a hundred times and I wash off the scratch and put Neosporin on it. I've never gotten an infection or screwed anything into my head.
What are these people doing after they're bitten? Playing in the sewer?
If I ran to the doc with a cat scratch or bite, what do you think he would say?
ML
Pepper45
09-29-2008, 05:59
Thirty cent solution. 230 grains of solution, right at the base of the skull. Fixes ALL cat problems, instantly.
I've never heard of someone being mauled to death by a house cat, only dogs.
p.s. I do not dislike dogs, dogs are cool, but it's likley a dog is more a danger than a house cat is.
Brown Hawk
09-29-2008, 07:26
...
the same feral cat that has been coming around for a while that I feed. . .
First mistake that led to the other problems.
Hawk
My cats have bitten me over a hundred times and I wash off the scratch and put Neosporin on it. I've never gotten an infection or screwed anything into my head.
What are these people doing after they're bitten? Playing in the sewer?
If I ran to the doc with a cat scratch or bite, what do you think he would say?
ML
It depends on how the cat bites you. I too have been bitten quite a bit with no problems. The cat that bit my gf, coincidentally, at the base of the the thumb, bit into her tendon, which is where the infection started. I would not say go to the doctor right away, but clean it and monitor for swelling and signs of infection. My gf's thumb swelled up to 3 times its size and her wrist and forearm started to swell as well.
TODDPT945
09-29-2008, 10:42
Of course! They don't mean to. My brothers and I have all been bitten on different occasions by our own dogs that were being held from going after another person/dog. We don't blame them at all. Same goes for cats, they're notoriously more jumpy.
My animals know who is boss and I don't feel the need to abuse or beat them due to my own insecurities. :upeyes:
To top it off, you fed the feral cat. Nice...
Sorry I just got back. I have been bitten by my own dog breaking up a fight before. I assure you the dog was treated very well. He didn't even know it was me he bit. It was obvious he felt bad afterward.
wolfman97
09-29-2008, 10:46
A dog can and will do the same thing.
If your dog does this I suggest some people training.
I have had many, many dogs around all my life. Fairly few cats, and most of those were owned by someone else so I didn't see them much. Even at that, cats draw blood far more often than dogs.
rhikdavis
09-29-2008, 10:56
The cat is gone. Rant off:steamed:
As for sophie, I refuse to feed and shelter something that will attack me.
As master, I have control over any animal in this house. That's the way the chain of heiarchy falls.
I told amanda she could stay since she somehow see's this as my fault and threw a fit about me "disposing" of her.
I see you found out that you weren't as far up the chain as you thought. :supergrin:
When your g/f told you how it was going to be, was the cat peering at you smugly from behind her?
mnglocker
09-29-2008, 11:07
Just get a large Boa Constrictor. That will take care of all your cat problems. :devilish:
Lewsid 13
09-29-2008, 11:24
I don't dislike cats, but I would never have one as a pet. I have found them to be self serving, as they do what they want, when they want, and because of their untrainability when compared to dogs, I can only assume them to be less intelligent in general.
IMO, a dog makes a for a great companion, where a cat just takes up space.
NateHodge
09-29-2008, 20:14
I see you found out that you weren't as far up the chain as you thought. :supergrin:
When your g/f told you how it was going to be, was the cat peering at you smugly from behind her?
Haha, no she is only around because I allow it. That is undisputed around here. But I am done with the cat. So long as she keeps avoiding me the way whe does now, we'll be fine. The cat isn't staying because amanda said she was staying, she is staying because amanda got upset when I said she was gone.
Take your hand, either one, hold it out in front of you. Now touch your index finger to your thumb making a circle, and align the rest of your fingers with your index finger.
There's no coincidence that this is approximately the same size as the cats neck.
:)
Minuteman
10-03-2008, 15:21
http://www.scalzi.com/cattapebacon2.jpg
http://www.scalzi.com/cattapebacon3.jpg
The cat isn't staying because amanda said she was staying, she is staying because amanda got upset when I said she was gone.
Sounds like someone is 'whipped!
Nate I think you are missing a lot of the point about the difference between cats and dogs. Cats recognize no 'master'. Dogs do. There is always an Alpha to a dog, and often their master becomes that master. That is why dogs rarely turn on their owners. They will turn on other humans they dont percieve as Alpha, though. That is what drives most dog attacks on children, they are attacking something the dog sees as inferior to them.
It has nothing to do with loyalty but rather instinct. Dogs are, in my opinion, stupid. Their instinct drives them to please the Alpha. Cats are smart enough to know they don't need to get the approval of, or attention of, humans.
I have rarely encountered a dog that I liked. Most are slobbering fools that make noise.
I'll take a cat over dog any day. Can't wait till I move into a place that I can get a cat.
I've never understood people who blame an animal for acting like an animal. To expect more is foolish.
Makes me wonder which one is really the dumb one.
Clyde in CO
10-03-2008, 17:36
Back in the day one of my roomates had a cat that was a pain in the butt. Noisy, spoiled, annoying.
He gave the cat to his girlfriend that lived several miles away. The cat freaked out and ran away from her place as soon as it could.
The cat showed back up at our place a couple of weeks later, very dirty and a lot thinner.
After that the cat had a great attitude, was quiet and very loving. I liked that cat a lot after that. Then a couple years later the roomate's girlfriend (different one)told us she gave the cat to a friend. Found out later she took it to the pound. *****.
CaptCave
10-03-2008, 18:00
had a gf a long time ago that had two cats.
The male was cool
but the female was a total......
The female flipped on me one day, when I had done nothing to her, and before I knew it, I had flung it across the room in a wall. It was just my reaction.
That cat never bothered me again, never even got close to me.
Get a Rottie. That will instantly solve the indoor and outdoor cat problem. Although you do have to be careful as sometimes the cats get stuck in the Rot's throat.:whistling:
Ih8Katz
vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.