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InTheCut
09-28-2008, 23:59
I just wanted to double check since I heard there is certain Gold dots that are not recommended for personal defense. And the deal on ammoman seems pretty good. Can anyone confirm that these are legit?

Thanks


http://ammoman.com/images3/SL-9MM-124-3.jpg

Rekced
09-29-2008, 19:22
If that is a pic of the ammo you bought, it is legit. The ones to avoid for self defense are the ones packed loose and labeled "NOT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT!!!!!" There's like a one in ten thousand chance the round won't go off when you need it to. You'll have to guess whether I'm exaggerating or not.

D-GLOCK17
09-29-2008, 19:59
I use to buy the loosely packaged Gold Dots in .40 cal. I could get 20 for $9.00. I never had any issues. They were 100% reliable in the Glock 23 I had at the time.

Rekced
09-29-2008, 20:00
I use to buy the loosely packaged Gold Dots in .40 cal. I could get 20 for $9.00. I never had any issues. They were 100% reliable in the Glock 23 I had at the time.

Sounds like the case for everyone really.

Javelin
09-29-2008, 20:02
I thought they recalled them due to some problem with not being waterproof primers or something? Those do not look like the recalled ammo btw... but who knows.

:)

D-GLOCK17
09-29-2008, 20:19
Sounds like the case for everyone really.

Yeah. I also forgot to mention that I used to buy mine at a local gun store. I have never purchased them from Ammoman.com. I guess the ammo was pretty much a very large amount of defective ammo that got sold as "practice ammo", possibly in part, to avoid liability issues that Speer could have incurred.

Cajun Man
09-29-2008, 21:29
That's some bad ammo bro, you shouldn't shoot it. I'll PM you an address you should ship it to for it to be disposed of. :supergrin:

InTheCut
09-29-2008, 22:33
I took the picture from the website. I havent bought them yet, kind of cautious from buying from a vendor that would sell defective ammo.

FatBoy
09-30-2008, 07:45
I took the picture from the website. I havent bought them yet, kind of cautious from buying from a vendor that would sell defective ammo.

1st of all, Ammoman is not selling "defective" ammo. Here is a pic of the so called ammo. http://www.ammoman.com/IMAGES/40-SGD-165-1.jpg


The failure rate was up in the 1 in 50,000 rounds.

Here is the skinny....

http://greent.com/40Page/general/speer-recall.htm

Speer Recalls Gold Dot Ammunition
Product Recall:
Speer Gold Dot Ammunition -380 Auto, 9mm, 9mm+P, and 40 S&W.

An intermittent, low frequency occurrence of primer misfires may occur under certain circumstances in several calibers of Gold Dot ammunition. This only applies to Gold Dot ammunition of the specified calibers produced between 09-25-01 and 03-31-02.

An unauthorized change in manufacturing process was made back in late September, This resulted in primers being used that did not meet specifications. Those primers are mostly used for ammo going to Government Contract shipments. However some of the ammo does go out through distributors to local and state contracts.

Speer Gold Dot 380 Auto, 9mm, 9mm+P, and 40 S&W ammunition produced between 09-25-01 and 03-31-02 should be returned to the factory for a no charge replacement. Replacement ammunition will incorporate an "A" mark on the primer cup for identification purposes.

You should discontinue use of the subject ammunition and follow the procedure below immediately.

To return ammunition subject to this notice, please provide the information requested below by email, toll free fax, or toll free hotline. A customer service person will then contact you to explain how to return and replace any ammunition affected by the recall.

Voice hotline Px 1-866-286-7436, Fax 1-866-665-2738, email ammo@seg-outdoor.com

Letters in lot code indicate month and year of production. Recall period is from Sept. 25th, 2001 to March 31st, 2002. Lot#'s with the sequence of letters shown below are part of the recall.

J26Gxx to J30Gxx (September 2001)
K01Gxx to K31Gxx (October 2001)
L01Gxx to L30Gxx (November 2001)
M01Gxx to M31Gxx (December 2001)

A01Hxx to A31Hxx (January 2002)
B01Hxx to B28Hxx (February 2002)
C01Hxx to C01Hxx (March 2002)

Also the labels will be a part number for specific breeds of ammo. The only Gold Dot parts numbers being recalled are:

53612 9mm 115 gr. +P+
53614 9mm 115 gr.
53617 9mm 124 gr. +P
53618 9mm 124 gr
53619 9mm 147 gr
53730 9mm 124 gr. (US Govt Spec and Sales)

53947 .40 165 gr. (Mostly sold to BATF)
53961 .40 155 gr.
53962 .40 180 gr.
53970 .40 165 gr. (US Govt Spec and Sales)

Also an extremely small quantity of .25, .32, and .380 ammo was manufactured with these primers. Presently one lot of .380 boxed in 50 round boxes is being recalled.

To qualify for recall, ammunition must (a) be from one of the recalled lot numbers and (b) have a part number listed above. Ammunition with the indicated lot numbers but a part number other than those listed is not being recalled.

Thanks to Glen L. and Mike Orick for providing this information from Speer.






I shot many a 250 rd box of the 9mm w/o any trouble @ all when it was less then $50 IIRC.

FB