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tercel89
10-17-2008, 19:53
All day today I have been listening to 99.7Fm talk radio and the local news and there have been lots of reports of Illegal Aliens in Nashville area voting :upeyes: .
Reports of buses and vans of Illegals that have interpreters with them are leading them into the voting booths and "helping" them vote. Most are not being required to show proof of I.D. . This is really burning me up . Then a guy , of some type of authority was interviewed on the radio by Phil Valentine . Phil drilled this guy about how come people were being allowed to vote that had no proof of citizenship and not evven being able to speak English. The guy defended the illegals saying they had a right to have interpreters withthem . I believe that is wrong . I believe you must SPEAK and WRITE English before being a citizen and I really belive that is a requirement . Hardly any of these people could do that .
Have any of you guiys heard of these types of Illegal voting going on ?

17z
10-17-2008, 21:43
Let your election commish know about this asap. If not,we are going to have to have Nancy Pelosi and Harold Reid as pres and vice pres in January.17z

meshmdz
10-18-2008, 12:46
I am from Tennessee (johnson city) and have not heard this.. If this is true, it is truly a smack in the face of the voting process. This must not be happening!

BOGE
10-19-2008, 00:57
I believe you must SPEAK and WRITE English before being a citizen and I really belive{sic} that is a requirement .

I am for deporting ALL illegals, however it should not be a requirement to read & speak English as that would have eliminated millions of legal immigrants in the past. The last man George A. Custer spoke with (and lived) was an Italian immigrant who did not speak English. I am assuming that you believe that these illegals are all voting for Obama. How would you feel if they were voting for McCain? :whistling: Tens of thousands of European immigrants fought on both sides in the Civil War and most did not speak English. I DO feel however that they should show LEGAL proof that they are LEGALLY eligible to vote which is probably not the case here. The Left Wing loons have fought that tooth & nail as they know most fraudulent voting is done on the Dem. tickets. Speak English? No problem as long as you can show you are legally ELIGIBLE to vote.

meshmdz
10-19-2008, 10:23
it is physically impossible to round up and deport 12-18 million people.

BOGE
10-19-2008, 15:19
it is physically impossible to round up and deport 12-18 million people.

Who said WE were going to deport them? They will deport themselves if you make it a FELONY to employ one. :supergrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

Oldskoolfan
10-20-2008, 10:34
To the original poster, do you carry proof of citizenship with you at all times?

farnhamj
10-20-2008, 20:58
To the original poster, do you carry proof of citizenship with you at all times?

Why wouldn't you. In this day in age you should ALWAYS have proper ID with you. At least I do. Maybe it's because of my job. Does anyone not carry ID with them at all times?

meshmdz
10-20-2008, 23:59
Who said WE were going to deport them? They will deport themselves if you make it a FELONY to employ one. :supergrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

No they wont. Thats wishful thinking. Why wont they? Because corrupt Business owners that dont value American labor will always hire them because they will work for nothing. Those are the facts. Its sad but the owners of production in this nation dont give 2 ****s about AMERICAN labor. :steamed:

tercel89
10-21-2008, 18:31
To the original poster, do you carry proof of citizenship with you at all times?
Who's side are you on ? No I do not and If i was of abroad birth I would !
As far as I.D. I carry a U.S. Social security card , a drivers license , and a Tn Handgun carry permit . All above should be sufficent .

Bill Lumberg
10-21-2008, 19:43
State issued ID and/or Voter Registration card is required, which precludes illegals unless they've got a fake ID and somehow managed to get on the voter roll prior to arriving to vote. And they are requiring those ID's. I early voted. No signs of illegals voting (in real life) but I agree with you 100%- they should be able to read and speak remedial english in order to vote. So Phill combined a false allegation with an actual concern to make for interesting radio (for someone- not for me).

All day today I have been listening to 99.7Fm talk radio and the local news and there have been lots of reports of Illegal Aliens in Nashville area voting :upeyes: .
Reports of buses and vans of Illegals that have interpreters with them are leading them into the voting booths and "helping" them vote. Most are not being required to show proof of I.D. . This is really burning me up . Then a guy , of some type of authority was interviewed on the radio by Phil Valentine . Phil drilled this guy about how come people were being allowed to vote that had no proof of citizenship and not evven being able to speak English. The guy defended the illegals saying they had a right to have interpreters withthem . I believe that is wrong . I believe you must SPEAK and WRITE English before being a citizen and I really belive that is a requirement . Hardly any of these people could do that .
Have any of you guiys heard of these types of Illegal voting going on ?

HAIL CAESAR
10-22-2008, 15:29
One of these days gentlemen, one of these days real people are going to have enough.

MACHINEGUN
10-22-2008, 19:28
One of these days gentlemen, one of these days real people are going to have enough.

Amen. :supergrin:

user
10-22-2008, 19:34
Sounds like election fraud to me.

By the way, it's not going to be possible to deport any illegals - they're Catholic and have a tremendous support community - they were told to come here precisely so that their babies born in the U.S. would be voting Catholic citizens. So just give up on that idea, it ain't going to happen.

HAIL CAESAR
10-22-2008, 19:39
Sounds like election fraud to me.

Not if Democrats do it. Democrats call it voter turnout.

If REAL PEOPLE try to stop it it's called racism and voter suppression.

This could only happen in today's USA.

Ahmid
10-23-2008, 10:12
The Democrats are going to steal this election.
We can round up millions of illegals.
Stalin and Hitler rounded up millions.
We can do it and deport them without violence or hurting anyone.

Black .45
10-24-2008, 20:17
I heard Steve Gill talking about this on WLAC this A.M.

The point is, you have to be a citizen to vote. To become a naturalized citizen you have to pass a test in English. Thus, if you're a citizen you speak English and don't need an interpreter.

The other point is, these illegals are being led into the voting booth by Obama operatives and being told who to vote for, if they are even the ones pressing the buttons. They may be getting paid for their votes, just like in Chicago.

hikerpaddler
11-04-2008, 07:21
You posted in another thread you are law enforcement. What's up with the lack of a badge and creds but you carry a CHP?

Who's side are you on ? No I do not and If i was of abroad birth I would !
As far as I.D. I carry a U.S. Social security card , a drivers license , and a Tn Handgun carry permit . All above should be sufficent .

BobbyT
11-16-2008, 02:53
Here's my Crook County (20+ miles outside, but still firmly under the thumb of, Chitcago) voting experience. I work nights and left a little before 6am. Went home, put on my "Who is John Galt?" t-shirt, and headed to the church about half a mile away.

Gave them my name. They didn't ask for any ID, or even to confirm my address. Waited <2 min. for the person ahead of me to finish and voted.

By then it was a whopping 6:10am. So by lunchtime I probably could've voted a dozen times without even costing myself $4 in Chicago-priced gas.

This of course ignores the two full weeks before the election where you could vote early & often (why does early voting exist at all?) and the absentee voting which you can mail in with no one ever seeing you or how many fake names and addresses you do it under (why can anyone not stationed abroad vote absentee?)

BobbyT
11-16-2008, 02:55
Getting rid of early voting entirely, and having all elections on one day as listed in the Constitution, with ID shown and finger dipped in permanent ink like Iraq, is the only way we'll defeat the professional fraudsters at ACORN (who admitted themselves that only a third of their ~1.5 million registrations were legit...meaning it's probably 10%)

Colorado4Wheel
11-16-2008, 08:08
One of these days gentlemen, one of these days real people are going to have enough.

Enough of the radio jockeys lying to you?

http://www.dmv.org/tn-tennessee/voter-registration.php
http://www.state.tn.us/sos/election/


You can't vote if your not registered.
You have to vote in person the fist time if you do the process by mail.
They check I.D. when you vote.

You guys are so easy to get worked up with lies to make you upset.

farnhamj
11-16-2008, 15:03
Enough of the radio jockeys lying to you?

http://www.dmv.org/tn-tennessee/voter-registration.php
http://www.state.tn.us/sos/election/


You can't vote if your not registered.
You have to vote in person the fist time if you do the process by mail.
They check I.D. when you vote.

You guys are so easy to get worked up with lies to make you upset.

all I was asked was my name, signed next to my other signature in a book and voted. Any my other sig was 8 years old so it didn't even look the same.

AZson
01-01-2009, 17:38
it is physically impossible to round up and deport 12-18 million people.

But it is possable to go after the people hiring them, that includes mom and pop who pay them under the table. No job no reason to be here. They will self deport, wont cost us a dime.

AZson
01-01-2009, 17:41
Here's my Crook County (20+ miles outside, but still firmly under the thumb of, Chitcago) voting experience. I work nights and left a little before 6am. Went home, put on my "Who is John Galt?" t-shirt, and headed to the church about half a mile away.

Gave them my name. They didn't ask for any ID, or even to confirm my address. Waited <2 min. for the person ahead of me to finish and voted.

By then it was a whopping 6:10am. So by lunchtime I probably could've voted a dozen times without even costing myself $4 in Chicago-priced gas.

This of course ignores the two full weeks before the election where you could vote early & often (why does early voting exist at all?) and the absentee voting which you can mail in with no one ever seeing you or how many fake names and addresses you do it under (why can anyone not stationed abroad vote absentee?)

This is why AZ passed the law requiring ID.

AZson
01-01-2009, 17:44
I also think they need to just go ahead and put a picture and a thumb print on your SSC just to stop all this identy theft going on not just by illegals but by every one else.
I also think you should have the right to freeze your credit that way your identy cann't be stolen.

Ryobi
01-02-2009, 06:03
Okey-dokey. That was illegal. What precinct and and on what day did you vote? Since evidently you weren't held to the same standard other voters are, the poll worker who allowed you to vote with zero identification needs to be punished or removed.

all I was asked was my name, signed next to my other signature in a book and voted. Any my other sig was 8 years old so it didn't even look the same.

martyj
05-08-2009, 08:45
They have companies here that hire them and the law states 3 type of id. What the law doesnt state is that they all have to be the same person. So they hire them.
I found a wallet at work with 3 ids in it from a mexican and had all the same name on them but not the same picture.
The goverment just inst doing its job!! They fine them enough often enough the companies will pick up on it. Get caught 3 times shut the place down and send the CEO to federal pen for harboring illegals.

ReyFufuRulesAll
05-08-2009, 11:12
I am for deporting ALL illegals, however it should not be a requirement to read & speak English as that would have eliminated millions of legal immigrants in the past. The last man George A. Custer spoke with (and lived) was an Italian immigrant who did not speak English. I am assuming that you believe that these illegals are all voting for Obama. How would you feel if they were voting for McCain? :whistling: Tens of thousands of European immigrants fought on both sides in the Civil War and most did not speak English. I DO feel however that they should show LEGAL proof that they are LEGALLY eligible to vote which is probably not the case here. The Left Wing loons have fought that tooth & nail as they know most fraudulent voting is done on the Dem. tickets. Speak English? No problem as long as you can show you are legally ELIGIBLE to vote.
I couildn't have said it better.

G23c
05-09-2009, 12:19
Why wouldn't you. In this day in age you should ALWAYS have proper ID with you. At least I do. Maybe it's because of my job. Does anyone not carry ID with them at all times?

evidence of citizenship is your birth certificate or naturaliation certificate. passport is not acceptable by many government agencies as proof of US citizenship (TX DPS).

AZson
05-10-2009, 07:16
Unfortunately here in Tucson, they allow you to use a bill or a bank statement to prove your a resident, I'm sure that's no problems for illegals here.

ICARRY2
05-11-2009, 22:01
Personally, the law at the federal level should be anyone who is not a U.S. citizen and registers to vote should be deported and denied entry into the U.S. permanently. No citizenship, no green card, no work visa, no tourist visa, no political asylum, no nothing never!

If a non-citizen actually votes, mandatory minimum 10 years in prison helping build a really big wall along the border.

ICARRY2
05-11-2009, 22:08
it is physically impossible to round up and deport 12-18 million people.

We don't have to deport anyone. Cut off their ability to get a job. AZ voters passed a very strict law last year that inflicts hard core consequences for anyone, businesses or individuals to hire illegal aliens. It has had an impact. Some of the school districts in the largely hispanic areas have seen a sharp decline in enrollment. One district alone saw a decline of 1500 students in a single school year as soon as the law was passed.

AZson
05-12-2009, 08:42
Personally, the law at the federal level should be anyone who is not a U.S. citizen and registers to vote should be deported and denied entry into the U.S. permanently. No citizenship, no green card, no work visa, no tourist visa, no political asylum, no nothing never!

If a non-citizen actually votes, mandatory minimum 10 years in prison helping build a really big wall along the border.

I agree we need a 40 foot wall between us and Mexico with a 20ft electrified fence in 100' front of it.
Not to mention requiring a $5000 deposit before they are allowed to come to the US for shopping, just to make sure they go home.

bigj480
05-13-2009, 11:06
Anything short of punishing employers and getting rid of entitlements will not solve the immigration problem. This will never happen because Americans have become complacent. This will also never happen because it's too politically incorrect.

AZson
05-14-2009, 10:31
Anything short of punishing employers and getting rid of entitlements will not solve the immigration problem. This will never happen because Americans have become complacent. This will also never happen because it's too politically incorrect.

I agree 110%. We are trying to make it politically correct here in Tucson.
All Arizona for all that matters, unlike California.

Carolina Drifter
06-21-2009, 20:20
Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal
Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically
productive for the State of California...
You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California.

"Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted....
"Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year.
Now take 30% away for state and federal tax
Joe Legal now has $31,231.00

Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year.
Jose Illegal pays no taxes...
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month, or $12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $19,231.00

Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

Joe Legal makes too much money so he is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare,
Joe Legal pays for food, $1,000.00 per month or $12,000.00 per year.
Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month, 12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal is now in the hole, minus (-) $4,769.00

Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy
Jose Illegal pays rent $500.00 per month, $6,000.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.
Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.

Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
Joe Legal's children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

3 weelin geezer
07-08-2009, 16:28
it is physically impossible to round up and deport 12-18 million people.


Hmmm...I don't think so. I think that as bad as the panhandling off the median problem is here, there would be an even greater one as they would go hang out near the bank and panhandle there. You gotta have money if you left the bank...or so it should be anyways.:crying:

Paul7
07-17-2009, 11:03
We don't have to deport anyone. Cut off their ability to get a job. AZ voters passed a very strict law last year that inflicts hard core consequences for anyone, businesses or individuals to hire illegal aliens. It has had an impact. Some of the school districts in the largely hispanic areas have seen a sharp decline in enrollment. One district alone saw a decline of 1500 students in a single school year as soon as the law was passed.

Amazing. 1500 illegals X $5Kper year per student = $7,500,000 for just one district. Is is any wonder CA is BK?

AZson
07-18-2009, 08:36
Our schools are starting to ask if the kids are here legally or not, but unfortunately our federal law requires us to educate all the kids but it does not say we can not charge them a tuition fee or don't give them a diploma unless they pay a large fee, take away the diploma, take away their reason for being here. You know the sad part is our K-12 schools do take mexico birth certificates for admission. My wife works for one so I know that is a fact.
:rant:

NEOH212
08-21-2009, 14:03
Who said WE were going to deport them? They will deport themselves if you make it a FELONY to employ one. :supergrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

+1 Amen!:drink:

RifleStock.com
08-21-2009, 14:09
To the original poster, do you carry proof of citizenship with you at all times?

Why, yes, I do. But also as a CITIZEN, I know enough to take my VOTER REGISTRATION CARD and my ID/DL to the polls to vote!!!!

stengun
11-18-2009, 19:51
Howdy tercel89

,All day today I have been listening to 99.7Fm talk radio and the local news and there have been lots of reports of Illegal Aliens in Nashville area voting :upeyes: .
Reports of buses and vans of Illegals that have interpreters with them are leading them into the voting booths and "helping" them vote. Most are not being required to show proof of I.D. . This is really burning me up . Then a guy , of some type of authority was interviewed on the radio by Phil Valentine . Phil drilled this guy about how come people were being allowed to vote that had no proof of citizenship and not evven being able to speak English. The guy defended the illegals saying they had a right to have interpreters withthem . I believe that is wrong . I believe you must SPEAK and WRITE English before being a citizen and I really belive that is a requirement . Hardly any of these people could do that .
Have any of you guiys heard of these types of Illegal voting going on ?

Gee, unless TN's voting laws are alot different than here in AR I would say someone is pulling a sad joke on you.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Paul

tnhawk
01-02-2010, 17:16
If you don't need to prove citizenship to be president, why should you need it to vote?

ptwheat
07-06-2010, 15:04
No they wont. Thats wishful thinking. Why wont they? Because corrupt Business owners that dont value American labor will always hire them because they will work for nothing. Those are the facts. Its sad but the owners of production in this nation dont give 2 ****s about AMERICAN labor. :steamed:
Totally agree.. Its only about the almighty dollar!!at least it is until the dollar isnt worth anything anymore..

Mabo
07-06-2010, 15:19
Holy thread resurrection batman! :dunno:

Delta-x
07-06-2010, 15:38
it is physically impossible to round up and deport 12-18 million people.

True. But if the current immigration laws were some how allowed to be enforced, and the freebies dried up, illegals would return to home base in
Mehico........Adios amigos!

3 weelin geezer
07-07-2010, 12:01
So why do you think 'they' are all from mexico? Just because they cross from Mexico makes them as Mexican as they are Texan if they cross through El paso onto Denver. An Lt. with the border patrol claims he has seen illegals there from 193 OTHER countries. While some argue that the greedy business men will hire them over Americans to save a buck, isn't that the American way...To make money? Besides, you don't see any of these Americans fighting tooth and nail for those hard, back breaking, outdoor in the hot ass sun that pay peanuts jobs any ways. Who here will leave their nice comfy desk job that pays 60k/yr for working in the fields 10-14 hours a day stooping over to pick things for minimum wage plus all the fries they can eat? I sure as hell won't. Make them documented somehow and make them pay taxes just the same! Make the EMPLOYERS have to pay those taxes too. I don't care if they are legal or not.

mrsurfboard
07-09-2010, 12:50
Don't expect the Obama Justice Dept to give a crap about this. They know that illegals are voting Democrat and that just fine with them.

3 weelin geezer
07-09-2010, 23:59
If you don't need to prove citizenship to be president, why should you need it to vote?

Who makes up this crap?

•Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States.
The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.

I know Obama has gray hair but I don't think he is over 221 yrs old.

unit1069
07-10-2010, 08:32
Democrats have been stealing elections for years by bussing illegal aliens to the polls.

Loretta Sanchez and Democrats used illegal alien voters to steal Bob Dornan's seat back in the 1990s. Why wouldn't the same criminals --- who are protected by the mainstream media --- run the same operation every chance they get?

A6Gator
07-10-2010, 17:00
But it is possable to go after the people hiring them, that includes mom and pop who pay them under the table. No job no reason to be here. They will self deport, wont cost us a dime.

You're right. They got up here on their own, they can get back on their own...

As for voter fraud and illegals voting in elections, why do you think Barry is suing AZ? If it starts there, they can check in CA, NM, TX and everywhere else.

Bill Lumberg
09-06-2010, 05:54
It was fabricated from the start. Illegals can do some things they shouldn't be able to in TN, but voting isn't one of them. Never was.

Howdy tercel89

,

Gee, unless TN's voting laws are alot different than here in AR I would say someone is pulling a sad joke on you.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Paul

LASTRESORT20
09-14-2010, 20:09
Who said WE were going to deport them? They will deport themselves if you make it a FELONY to employ one. :supergrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

Yes exactly...

glockster72
10-24-2010, 01:26
Who's side are you on ? No I do not and If i was of abroad birth I would !
As far as I.D. I carry a U.S. Social security card , a drivers license , and a Tn Handgun carry permit . All above should be sufficent .

We may not have permits for long

the Next Gov. wants them Repealed :steamed:


http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=13377248


Haslam has got the Governor spot bought and paid for and i heard that Directly from a State rep. last week

Murgatroy
10-24-2010, 14:59
We may not have permits for long

the Next Gov. wants them Repealed :steamed:


http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=13377248


Haslam has got the Governor spot bought and paid for and i heard that Directly from a State rep. last week

Get your facts straight.

He said he would sign a bill into law that removed the permits. Meaning Constitutional Carry, just like Alaska, Arizona and Vermont.

Not removing the right to carry. Removing the need to have a permit to carry.

AZson
10-25-2010, 13:01
Heck here in Arizona their already giving amnesty to illegals that stole identities.
Their saying it is part of the dream act that was not passed.

crsuribe
11-04-2010, 19:04
As a Lawful Permanent Resident who loves this Country more than a lot of 'born Citizens", I have to say I feel -DISGUSTED- with how much illegal immigrants get away with.

I'm not even gonna bother elaborating very much on this. It pisses me off so much. They just come here to take advantage of everything they can take advantage of, either for as long as they can or just until they feel they've gathered enough money to go back and spend it all in their original countries. At least that's what the vast majority of illegal Latin-American immigrants do.

Bill Lumberg
11-05-2010, 12:28
Correct. And he wasn't talking about carry without permits.

We may not have permits for long

the Next Gov. wants them Repealed :steamed:






Haslam has got the Governor spot bought and paid for and i heard that Directly from a State rep. last week

OldScribe2009
12-08-2010, 09:25
it is physically impossible to round up and deport 12-18 million people.

Read some history, and you'll change your mind about this.

m24swsbar
12-28-2010, 11:31
Get your facts straight.

He said he would sign a bill into law that removed the permits. Meaning Constitutional Carry, just like Alaska, Arizona and Vermont.

Not removing the right to carry. Removing the need to have a permit to carry.
I think Arizona still needs a permit to conceal. But needs nothing to open carry.

billybob44
12-28-2010, 17:01
To the original poster, do you carry proof of citizenship with you at all times?
I do-it's called my State Drivers License==and-YES-I had to show my birth certificate to get my first one.:tongueout:

AZson
12-29-2010, 15:17
Obamantion and home land security Nappy are giving identity stealing illegals here their own version of the dream act, even though it was voted down, they both should be tried for treason.