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MallNinja4Hire
10-22-2008, 15:19
Building a new desktop system. I've got a few ideas on what I'm putting in it but I'm stuck thinking about the mobo & processor.

The case
Thermaltake Armor VA8000
http://www.b-com.ca/images/T/THERMALTAKE-VA8000BWS-ARMORBLK-01.jpg

The hard drives x3
Western Digital Caviar 1TB internal
http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=336

The graphics card x2 via SLI
The NViDia GeForce 8800 Ultra
http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_8800.html

The sound card
Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro

http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=208&product=17791

All I need now is suggestions for a processor and Mobo. Intel or AMD? Who's got the sickest processor on the market for gaming right now?

I'm open to suggestions and criticism :rofl:

lee2
10-22-2008, 18:00
i've always like asus motherboards. dont skimp on the power supply. get at least and intel q6600 or better and as much memory as you can .:cool:

IndyGunFreak
10-22-2008, 18:09
i've always like asus motherboards. dont skimp on the power supply. get at least and intel q6600 or better and as much memory as you can .:cool:

Good advice... My builds almost always consist of either an MSI or Asus board. I've been very happy w/ both, and have no issue w/ using either. I used to really like Abit, but its been a long time since I've used one of their boards, so I'm not sure of their quality nowdays.. I've always preferred AMD processors over Intel, but In my opinion, its kind of a "Ford vs. Chevy argument"... Also as I've said in the other threads on this matter, when I do get AMD processors, I always get the Retail version... Little more expensive than the OEMs, but they come w/ a warranty, and what I've found to be a very good, quiet Heatsink/Fan.

Power supplies -- 1. Antec 2. Antec 3. Antec.. I'm guessing you get the idea.

Allt he parts you mentioned look great, so I don't think you'll have any issues.

IGF

najaboy
10-22-2008, 18:09
I'd only opt for the Creative soundcard if EAX 3.0 and above is important to you and you don't mind crappy, bloated drivers.

A great mobo that I used in my current build is the Gigabyte GAX48-DQ6. The BIOS is extremely customizable and can be intimidating if you're not used to have so much control.

As for processors, if money's no object, you can go for Intel's QX9770.

Likewise, the 8800 is a fantastic GPU in it's own right, but I'd personally opt for a GTX 280 for a new gaming build.

Big Al 24
10-22-2008, 22:02
That's an iffy question without a budget. You could get 2 QX9775's and an Intel Skulltrail Board and 16 gigs of ram (oh joy!!!).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121330&Tpk=Skulltrail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115044

And a couple of these badboys...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130368 (lifetime warranty)

Then of course you'll need this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703012

What's your budget?

Here is a resource devoted to the subject...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185136&page=4

betyourlife
10-22-2008, 22:48
AMD seems to be pretty popular with gamers. That's what I put into my system.

RaiderRodney
10-23-2008, 07:31
Good advice... My builds almost always consist of either an MSI or Asus board. I've been very happy w/ both, and have no issue w/ using either. I used to really like Abit, but its been a long time since I've used one of their boards, so I'm not sure of their quality nowdays.. I've always preferred AMD processors over Intel, but In my opinion, its kind of a "Ford vs. Chevy argument"... Also as I've said in the other threads on this matter, when I do get AMD processors, I always get the Retail version... Little more expensive than the OEMs, but they come w/ a warranty, and what I've found to be a very good, quiet Heatsink/Fan.

Power supplies -- 1. Antec 2. Antec 3. Antec.. I'm guessing you get the idea.

Allt he parts you mentioned look great, so I don't think you'll have any issues.

IGF

Excellent advice!!! I also use ASUS or MSI mb's. I love Antec but also would recommend the OCZ Power Supplies.

I also prefer Seagate HDs over WD....5 year warranty ftw ;)

Intel vs AMD = win win situation. Both are damn good and you will be happy either way. Go to Tom's Hardware and study the CPU charts and see which model you can compare and get a better deal on.

Oh...and have fun!!!

Razrbk444
10-23-2008, 14:59
I'm a die hard AMD fanboy. Having said that, I believe Intel has the edge now for both desktop applications and gaming. MSI, Antec, Kingston, and Seagate or W.D. are usually the brands I stick with. If loading up on memory, you'll need a 64bit OS to take advantage of more than about 3.25gb of ram.

Big Al 24
10-24-2008, 00:42
Don't be afraid of other mobo manufacturers. Biostar, Foxconn, DFI, ASrock and others have been good performers even with hardcore users. I got an EVGA mobo (made by Foxconn) and vid card the last time I upgraded because of the lifetime warranty. After 2 years I still haven't had to use it. ASUS needs to improve their customer service a little or make an AMAZING board for a reasonable price before I make them my first choice again. That being said, the last 5 computers I built for people were on ASUS mobos. But like I said, don't be afraid, look at some of the reviews by people who beat the snot out of their hardware and you'll see that there's a lot out there now for good prices. And I was a dedicated AMD fan until the C2D came out, then I had to jump ship. When they release the most powerful chip I'll buy back in. Don't get fan-boyish with hardware companies, it's a competitive market and you have a lot of good stuff to choose from.

IndyGunFreak
10-24-2008, 03:14
Not disputing you, but I've had ASrock and DFI boards fail within 6mo of being setup. I didn't buy them, and in fact recommended against them, but someone else did so I used them. Neither of them I bought the components, and was really just teaching the people to build... The DFI was about 2yrs ago, and the ASRock was probably a little over 3yrs ago...

There's always lemons I guess..

IGF

MallNinja4Hire
10-27-2008, 09:49
I want a mobo that can handle 4GB ram min... not sure if there are any within the general gaming platform that will hold more, A dual core processor minimum would prefer a quad.

I want a gaming beast. My budget is at $5k I want this thing to make 3dMark cry like a little ***** when it tests my machine.

I'm not gonna scimp on graphics cards this time. That's why i was wanting to o with the 8800 w/768mb via sli x2 . If 1.5Gb of video ram can't run the damn thing like a hellish beast i have no desire for it.

I need a mobo with the most PCI/PCIE slots my case can handle.


I want to build the ultimate PC and I am open to any suggestions.

Big Al 24
10-27-2008, 17:42
Not disputing you, but I've had ASrock and DFI boards fail within 6mo of being setup. I didn't buy them, and in fact recommended against them, but someone else did so I used them. Neither of them I bought the components, and was really just teaching the people to build... The DFI was about 2yrs ago, and the ASRock was probably a little over 3yrs ago...

There's always lemons I guess..

IGF

Yeah, but that's true of all brands. When you finally do get an ASUS board that is problematic, you'll find that their customer service is lacking and hard to understand. And on the same topic, I've had an MSI board catch fire right by the cmos reset switch and the replacement they sent was DOA. You never know where that mobo was before you got it- some kid could've been playing with it under the Christmas tree on the carpet, using it as a tv tray etc... My basic point was that brand loyalty won't always get you the best product.

Big Al 24
10-27-2008, 17:53
I want a mobo that can handle 4GB ram min... not sure if there are any within the general gaming platform that will hold more, A dual core processor minimum would prefer a quad.

I want a gaming beast. My budget is at $5k I want this thing to make 3dMark cry like a little ***** when it tests my machine.

I'm not gonna scimp on graphics cards this time. That's why i was wanting to o with the 8800 w/768mb via sli x2 . If 1.5Gb of video ram can't run the damn thing like a hellish beast i have no desire for it.

I need a mobo with the most PCI/PCIE slots my case can handle.


I want to build the ultimate PC and I am open to any suggestions.

Is the monitor in that budget? If it is, then I would get something with a huge resolution 2560x1600 to make SLI or Crossfire worth it. If you're going to go that route, I'd buy a high quality 1KW+ PSU for sure.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139007

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703012

For a mobo, are you willing to wait? I know the x58 boards will be out soon enough.
ASUS

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3428&p=3

EVGA
http://www.dailytech.com/EVGA+Offers+Preview+of+X58+Mainboard/article13274.htm

If you don't want to wait, there are the 790i, p35, p45... What's your flavor? You said you're going to do some benchmarking, are you going to overclock, watercool, phase change, etc?