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Natrate
12-04-2008, 13:05
Is there any way I can block a particular website from being viewed on my computer? I would like to block www.myspace.com (http://www.myspace.com) so my son can concentrate on doing his homework, instead of communicating with a couple whack-job girls from school. Also, he's getting to the age where pron viewing may be a possibility, so how do I block that too. Thanks.

andybtruckin
12-04-2008, 13:07
Put his computer in the living room.

NoSuchStudios
12-04-2008, 13:09
best way would probably be to block it on your router/ modem. I blocked myspace for the same reason at my house. The netgear routers i've used all have a parental control feature with key word or website blocking. You can also block in in Internet explorer but thats easily bypassed.

tarpleyg
12-04-2008, 13:09
There are programs that you can install but there are always ways around them. Best bet is to just do what andyb said...remove the computer from his room and put it in a central location.

Greg

SBD
12-04-2008, 13:09
If your home network is connected to any kind of router, you could go ahead and block sites one-by-one. An easier solution would be a straight-up software solution--a product you install on his machine that disallows access to certain sites based on your criteria. Those are the two options I can think of.

Goldendog Redux
12-04-2008, 13:13
Blocking My Space will not get the kid to do his homework. Sorry.

Put the computer in a place where people always are and password protect the whole thing for when you are not around. He will have friends without those restrictions on the computer and will look at stuff anyway.

MF

Natrate
12-04-2008, 13:15
Blocking My Space will not get the kid to do his homework. Sorry.
MF

He does his homework, but gets distracted by all the Myspace BS.

How do I block it through Internet Explorer?

elo
12-04-2008, 13:17
He does his homework, but gets distracted by all the Myspace BS.

How do I block it through Internet Explorer?
i don't know.... maybe we can wait for the nerds to help you.. :upeyes:

kc8ykd
12-04-2008, 13:18
If you are using windows xp or vista you can do this:

click on start and run
type 'notepad c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts'
hit ok
add this entry to the bottom of the file:
127.0.0.1 myspace.com
save and quit
reboot


this will redirect all requests for myspace.com back to your own computer.

jakemccoy
12-04-2008, 13:33
Zone Alarm has a Parental Control feature that allows the parent to block site categories. The newer version may allow you to block specific sites.

EDIT:

I see there are better options provided.

jakemccoy
12-04-2008, 13:37
He does his homework, but gets distracted by all the Myspace BS.

How do I block it through Internet Explorer?

So you know, you should probably block all MySpace-type sites. There are at least a dozen other sites where your kid can get similar enjoyment. Blocking MySpace is not even curing the symptom.

Goldendog Redux
12-04-2008, 13:57
Everyone gets distracted by stuff on the computer. Shoot, half the people surfing GT now are probably at work.

MF

void *
12-04-2008, 14:06
If you are using windows xp or vista you can do this:

click on start and run
type 'notepad c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts'
hit ok
add this entry to the bottom of the file:
127.0.0.1 myspace.com

Easy (and cheap) way to block the one site. Still keep an eye on the kid, though, it can be bypassed easily.

Another, possibly better way, if you have a software firewall installed, is to set the default firewall profile up so that only sites you want the kid to access for homework are allowed. (Say, set up one rule that allows wikipedia or whatever site, and another rule that blocks EVERYTHING). Set up a seperate profile that you can turn on when other people want to do normal surfing.

When my sister was living with me, I had actually set things up so that the one linux box she had an account on would kick her after a certain time (she used to sneak down and IM people at 2am-ish - but I was watching her login times) and a cron job that would add/remove firewall rules based on whether or not her account was logged in. Worked pretty well, but the main point is - no matter *what* you do, don't treat it as a silver bullet, still keep an eye on 'em.

eingeist
12-04-2008, 14:11
Everyone gets distracted by stuff on the computer. Shoot, half the people surfing GT now are probably at work.

MF

:rofl: :rofl:



Oh ****?! You can see me right now?!

srhoades
12-04-2008, 14:34
Sign up for Open DNS. You can block categories of sites and add specific sites to block. It's works great and it is FREE.

Goldendog Redux
12-04-2008, 14:38
:rofl: :rofl:



Oh ****?! You can see me right now?!

I can't but I bet the boss can.

podwich
12-04-2008, 15:02
Is there any way I can block a particular website from being viewed on my computer? I would like to block www.myspace.com (http://www.myspace.com) so my son can concentrate on doing his homework, instead of communicating with a couple whack-job girls from school. Also, he's getting to the age where pron viewing may be a possibility, so how do I block that too. Thanks.

He'll get around it.

Patrick Graham
12-04-2008, 16:33
In IE you can stick it in the restricted sites list, in the security tab in tools.

Big Al 24
12-04-2008, 18:59
Moving the computer is the best way to guarantee he'll behave. Most kids can get around things like this, and if they can't- one of their friends can.

grokdesigns
12-04-2008, 20:25
Sign up for Open DNS. You can block categories of sites and add specific sites to block. It's works great and it is FREE.
I second this suggestion. OpenDNS (http://www.opendns.com/) has pre-defined filtering levels, some of which include social networking sites. You can also add custom filters. Like srhoades said, it's entirely free! Set it up at the router level and protect the router with a strong password.

podwich
12-04-2008, 20:34
I second this suggestion. OpenDNS (http://www.opendns.com/) has pre-defined filtering levels, some of which include social networking sites. You can also add custom filters. Like srhoades said, it's entirely free! Set it up at the router level and protect the router with a strong password.

Which he can defeat simply by hitting the reset button on the router or by plugging the computer directly into the modem.

You're going to have a very difficult time doing what you wish to restrict access.

srhoades
12-04-2008, 20:36
Which he can defeat simply by hitting the reset button on the router or by plugging the computer directly into the modem.

You're going to have a very difficult time doing what you wish to restrict access.

So your premise is that since a level of security can be defeated, there is no point in implementing any. That is just silly. If you enact a reasonable level of security and someone goes to that extent of circumventing it, then the level of the security is not the problem.

Kevin108
12-04-2008, 20:51
Just for fun, I Googled unblock myspace.

Your kid is going to get to MySpace one way or another. Taking it away will only make him want it more. You need to step up the plate and be a mean ol' grownup and have a serious discussion about homework and other responsibilities or move the computer to somewhere you can watch him.

kc8ykd
12-04-2008, 22:06
A pretty solid way to block all myspace access (including the old dns redirect tricks) would be to simply block their ip space. This would be defeated by the use of a proxy, but between the hosts file and ip blocking it would be a pain in the butt to circumvent.

I've got a buddy who works there who might be able to help figure out what ip space they have, I'll see if I can get a hold of him tomorrow.

IndyGunFreak
12-05-2008, 02:52
Which he can defeat simply by hitting the reset button on the router or by plugging the computer directly into the modem.

You're going to have a very difficult time doing what you wish to restrict access.

So make sure the child has no access to the router/modem. At my parents house, I've blocked numerous sites at the router level for my youngest sister's computer.. Never a problem. My sister is not very savvy though, although I know just from looking at logs on the router, she's attempted to log on to it before, probably at the direction of a friend of hers. The modem/router is in my parents room, and I'm guessing she's not bold enough to try and reset it.

Personally, if a kid is this dishonest, etc, trying to get around authority, I'd unplug their computer and hide the cord, when I decided they could be on it, I'd let them plug it in.

IGF

podwich
12-05-2008, 16:35
So your premise is that since a level of security can be defeated, there is no point in implementing any. That is just silly. If you enact a reasonable level of security and someone goes to that extent of circumventing it, then the level of the security is not the problem.

I'm just trying to be realistic. I think the best option is to 1) actually rear your child to be the type of person you wish him to be, and 2) place the computer in a place that doesn't allow him to secretly access the sites you don't wish him to access. Sure, the attempt at security may slow him down, but don't rely on it to prevent access. Some of the comments seem to present certain strategies as a panacea.

The important part is to get your kid to be a good person. If he's trying to get around your security, he's going to get around it, whether at home or somewhere else. Get a good relationship with your kid, understand what he's thinking, and teach him correctly.

podwich
12-05-2008, 16:48
So make sure the child has no access to the router/modem. At my parents house, I've blocked numerous sites at the router level for my youngest sister's computer.. Never a problem. My sister is not very savvy though, although I know just from looking at logs on the router, she's attempted to log on to it before, probably at the direction of a friend of hers. The modem/router is in my parents room, and I'm guessing she's not bold enough to try and reset it.

Personally, if a kid is this dishonest, etc, trying to get around authority, I'd unplug their computer and hide the cord, when I decided they could be on it, I'd let them plug it in.

IGF

It's tough for a non-computer-savvy parent to outwit a computer-savvy kid. Even if you can fully lock down the home computer, he can go somewhere else. It's more important to do what I mentioned in the previous post.

I guess security helps if he's merely taking advantage of an opportunity and wouldn't go any farther than that.

jakemccoy
12-05-2008, 17:07
I'm just trying to be realistic. I think the best option is to 1) actually rear your child to be the type of person you wish him to be, and 2) place the computer in a place that doesn't allow him to secretly access the sites you don't wish him to access. Sure, the attempt at security may slow him down, but don't rely on it to prevent access. Some of the comments seem to present certain strategies as a panacea.

The important part is to get your kid to be a good person. If he's trying to get around your security, he's going to get around it, whether at home or somewhere else. Get a good relationship with your kid, understand what he's thinking, and teach him correctly.

I agree, but that's off topic really. Dude is asking about a tech question, not parenting advice from total strangers.

Big Al 24
12-05-2008, 17:19
I won't give parenting advice. Maybe I'll just recommend some software. It's called Smackdown 5.0. :tongueout:

srhoades
12-05-2008, 18:33
I won't give parenting advice. Maybe I'll just recommend some software. It's called Smackdown 5.0. :tongueout:

Effective even in beta releases.....

IndyGunFreak
12-05-2008, 20:31
I won't give parenting advice. Maybe I'll just recommend some software. It's called Smackdown 5.0. :tongueout:

LOL... When I was a kid, my Mom got the upgrade, Paddle 5.0, which almost always defaulted to a Sore Ass error.. :)

Podwich..

Setting up a router to block a site, isn't difficult at all to do, most of the time its right in the documentation of the router.. It takes all of about 10sec on most routers, then you setup the router login password with a solid password, let Junior know that if that router gets reset, someone's in for a problem... and then routinely check the router.

IGF

noway
12-05-2008, 23:24
get a firewall product that allows for this.

Sonicwall, Fortinet or Juniper. All have web controls and blacklists. Unless your son figures an way around the Firewall, you can filter him.

Joshua1432
12-31-2008, 05:23
Haha He will Probably kill you,

But if its getting to a point were he is not completing homework, try these options:

1) Don't let him use the internet
2) Delete his myspace account haha.

I am 14 and I know a lot of ways to bypass all the filters and stuff, he can even use his phone to access the sites,

So basicly there is lots of ways to bypass filters ect,

Sites like:

Http://Hidemyass.com
Http://Proxy.com
Http://Unlblockmyspace.com

If he isn't that Tech Savvy a quick google and he can bypass all the filters, So you can't really Idealy block all the sites.

Hope I helped :)

And have a Happy New Year!

Joshh

erodg23
12-31-2008, 05:51
www.glocktalk.com

srhoades
12-31-2008, 09:42
Haha He will Probably kill you,

But if its getting to a point were he is not completing homework, try these options:

1) Don't let him use the internet
2) Delete his myspace account haha.

I am 14 and I know a lot of ways to bypass all the filters and stuff, he can even use his phone to access the sites,

So basicly there is lots of ways to bypass filters ect,

Sites like:

Http://Hidemyass.com
Http://Proxy.com
Http://Unlblockmyspace.com



If he isn't that Tech Savvy a quick google and he can bypass all the filters, So you can't really Idealy block all the sites.

Hope I helped :)

And have a Happy New Year!

Joshh


Open DNS can also block access to proxy sites.

Joshua1432
12-31-2008, 16:28
Open DNS can also block access to proxy sites.

Really?

I would use that then, how hard is it to get into the program, to change settings ect?

Cheers


Joshhh

srhoades
12-31-2008, 18:12
Really?

I would use that then, how hard is it to get into the program, to change settings ect?

Cheers


Joshhh

You use their DNS servers in your router. You install the open DNS client as a service if you have a dynamic IP to keep it linked up. You then log in to your Open DNS account and select what types of content and specific sites you want to block.

http://rhoadescrew.com/images/opendns.jpg

Although you can't see it in the picture right below the categories is where you can block selected domains. All the categories are user updated. When a new proxy site comes up, someone will submit it and once it is verified it will be added to the list.

Gun Shark
12-31-2008, 18:25
talk to your son and say this if you don't do your homework within a reasonable amount of time and I find out it's because you were messing around on myspace you will lose the computer and you will have to go to the library or stay after school to do your work.

this worked for me. my dad tried the net gear router i got around it pretty damn fast. so the best option is talk to him or move the pc.

Gun Shark
12-31-2008, 18:26
Is there any way I can block a particular website from being viewed on my computer? I would like to block www.myspace.com (http://www.myspace.com) so my son can concentrate on doing his homework, instead of communicating with a couple whack-job girls from school. Also, he's getting to the age where pron viewing may be a possibility, so how do I block that too. Thanks.

he is going to view porn no matter what you do to stop it unless to keep him locked up all day.

Zeos
01-06-2009, 06:44
Which he can defeat simply by hitting the reset button on the router or by plugging the computer directly into the modem.

You're going to have a very difficult time doing what you wish to restrict access.

Actually, with opendns it's very easy to give the youngsters computer a fixed ip (and dns)on the local network, then give them a limited user account on the pc. They won't have permission to change their tcp/ip settings....They can pound the reset button on the router (or anything else for that matter) all they want this way.

jeanjvr
01-06-2009, 15:51
Could probably kinda get past the dns filtering by using a direct IP, but sites visited like this with linked content requiring dns requests that is denied by opendns would not be able to get to the servers with the content making browsing a pain (I'm just thinking out loud)...ignore

Maybe you could log all his internet visits in the router(don't know what routers support this) and tell him you'll be checking it regularly? The fear of getting caught? :supergrin:

srhoades
01-06-2009, 17:49
Could probably kinda get past the dns filtering by using a direct IP, but sites visited like this with linked content requiring dns requests that is denied by opendns would not be able to get to the servers with the content making browsing a pain (I'm just thinking out loud)...ignore

Maybe you could log all his internet visits in the router(don't know what routers support this) and tell him you'll be checking it regularly? The fear of getting caught? :supergrin:


OpenDNS blocks the IP's as well.

cs133atom
01-06-2009, 17:50
I use this with my customers, read it and choose for yourself.

SpectorSoft (http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/SpectorPro_Windows/)

jeanjvr
01-07-2009, 16:21
OpenDNS blocks the IP's as well.

Upon some reading I see that openDNS does not block IP's (its DNS - how could it possibly block an IP), it just makes it very difficult to access sites hosted by using shared hosting servers where many domains are linked to the same IP, and the webserver running on this one IP uses the URL you typed in to decide which one of the many sites it hosts to show you (which apparently most porn sites use).

Glock20 10mm
01-09-2009, 07:17
Use a Linux box, load Mandriva onto it, set up restricted account, use parental controls. The kid won't be able to get around it since Linux uses a Unix security model and there is no easy way to hack their way around the security.

It works for my kid. It works for my friends kids as well. You also set limits to when they can be online as well. Problem solved. :)

JohnJak
01-09-2009, 07:45
School books and slide rulers is all that is needed.