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PhoneCop
01-11-2009, 21:35
Seeking insight and feedback.

GLOCK23DK
01-11-2009, 21:48
I like the magpul pmags.....but the Lancer L5's are reliable, more importantly AVAILABLE, and still only $20.

veriest1
01-11-2009, 22:42
My pmags just came in. No feeding problems so far from round 1 to 30 with my plinking.

mangkukhan
01-12-2009, 04:36
Pmags are only $15-$17, and why restrict yourself to polymer mags when aluminum and steel are abundant.

PhoneCop
01-12-2009, 07:59
Pmags are only $15-$17, and why restrict yourself to polymer mags when aluminum and steel are abundant.

Didn't intent to restrict myself- those were just the two names that showed up frequently on gunbroker. Feel free to offer thoughts on aluminum and steel mags as well.

Thanks.

TrooperBrian
01-12-2009, 12:11
I'm a little biased here because I've only used PMAGs and USGI mags, given the choice I would go with PMAGs hands down.

Get_Zwole
01-12-2009, 13:05
pmags are great but if you spend over 20 bucks on a 15 dollar item you are crazy.

bukn77
01-12-2009, 21:32
Pmags work great in my Colt and RRA. My buddy has a Cmmg and a SOG and they work great in them also.

torrejon224
01-14-2009, 14:21
I just received a dozen PMAGS last night and I paid $13.99 per mag and they were only backordered for two weeks. I would never pay over $15 for a PMAG. The Lancer L5 is the next best one IMO but there about $4 more. I think I paid $18 or $19 apiece for Midway when they were in stock.

MrMurphy
01-14-2009, 20:01
Thermolds were abandoned for serious use by every army that ever used them (Canada and Israel, among others I believe).


PMags have held up to the test though.

1811guy
01-15-2009, 09:05
Thermolds were abandoned for serious use by every army that ever used them (Canada and Israel, among others I believe).


PMags have held up to the test though.

Canada especially - they coined the term "Thermelt". Apparaently they do not hold up well under sustained fire.

VTpinshooter
01-15-2009, 10:50
Thermolds were designed by a U.S company called Master Molder. The original design was a great mag. The Canadians tested them and found them more desirable than USGI, and so decided to make them issue mags. They bought a license for the tooling then cheaped out and didn't license the Zytel polymer formula. They ended up with an overly brittle plastic sensitive to heat and UV- the end result was melting on sustained full auto fire, cracked feed lips, even mag bodies separating at the mold line.

Mags stamped 'Wilson NC' and 'MM' are the good factory mags. They're comparable to PMAGs, a high honor IMHO. Before PMAGs, Master Molders were the only reliable polymer 20rd mags.

DriBak
01-15-2009, 18:09
Thermolds and Orlites make great range mags. I have not had any problems with either in 4 different AR platforms and many types of steel and brass cased ammo. I bought a bunch of new ones for about 10 bucks.

toasterlocker
01-16-2009, 20:12
Pmags are the best out there. If you can't find them, standard USGI mags with Magpul followers are your next best bet. Anything more expensive and you are wasting your money.

rhans405
01-16-2009, 20:14
Just got my pmags in last week. Paid 16 bucks apiece. Now that they are catching up to the post election rush, company's supplies are replinishing.

Mrs_Esterhouse
01-06-2010, 13:25
The USA made Zytel Thermolds are great. I like them better than any metal mag. Feeding from the Thermold mag lips is smooth, and it doesn't shave or etch the case brass like metal mags do. I haven't tried the PMAG yet, but it looks pretty good.

RMTactical
01-06-2010, 14:04
Magpul, no question.

Hedo1
01-06-2010, 14:09
I have a lot of Magpuls and like them a lot. I also put 12 Lancers and have to say they are holding up just as well and I like the fact you can see how many rounds you have left. Great feature.

RMTactical
01-06-2010, 14:36
I have a lot of Magpuls and like them a lot. I also put 12 Lancers and have to say they are holding up just as well and I like the fact you can see how many rounds you have left. Great feature.

But do you think that the Lancers could take half the abuse that the PMAG could? They don't seem extremely robust to me, although they do seem to be decent mags.

keninnavarre
01-06-2010, 15:15
I try to buy Pmags when they are on sale, they have worked great for me. 100% reliable. I only have a couple of Thermold mags, got in a box o' stuff I bought, and they have worked ok, but dont drop free from any of my rifles. I have tons of USGI mags, and have upgraded the followers and replaced springs on some of the older ones, they seem to work fine too.
CDNN sells Pmags for 13.99 each, and they have Thermold 20 rounders for 6.99.
Another mag they sell, that Ive gotten excellent results from is the C products Teflon coated 30 round aluminum, with orange no tilt follower for 7.99.

m41lover
01-06-2010, 15:31
But do you think that the Lancers could take half the abuse that the PMAG could? They don't seem extremely robust to me, although they do seem to be decent mags.


Article in the Nov 30 Shotgun News by Dave Fortier - He conducted a series of torture tests of magpul, lancer,msar,tapco, c products, tango down,brownells,bravo company.
In his functional and "torture" tests, Lancer came out "on top" -

Not offering this as my opinion - just supplying info

bug
01-06-2010, 15:34
Didn't intent to restrict myself- those were just the two names that showed up frequently on gunbroker. Feel free to offer thoughts on aluminum and steel mags as well.

Thanks.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/AR_15_M16_Magazines.html

Aimsurplus i have had good luck with them and they don't think everything is made of gold

I like Pmags they work very well and are well made in america.

I also loaded 2 pmags on election night and will fire them dry when president Obama leaves office.
I am curious if they will survive 4 and hopefully not 8 years loaded.

thunderbat
01-06-2010, 15:45
Anyone have any really tight magwell fit with Pmags? have one Ar that you really have to slam them home, especially on a closed bolt...

RMTactical
01-06-2010, 16:02
Article in the Nov 30 Shotgun News by Dave Fortier - He conducted a series of torture tests of magpul, lancer,msar,tapco, c products, tango down,brownells,bravo company.
In his functional and "torture" tests, Lancer came out "on top" -

Not offering this as my opinion - just supplying info

I'd like to see that. I have a Lancer and it does not seem extremely robust to me. Looks (and feels) like it would crack long before the Magpul.

Anyone have any really tight magwell fit with Pmags? have one Ar that you really have to slam them home, especially on a closed bolt...

They work just fine in all of mine, but they are a little tight in my CAV ARMS MKII lowers.

m41lover
01-06-2010, 16:53
I'd like to see that. I have a Lancer and it does not seem extremely robust to me. Looks (and feels) like it would crack long before the Magpul.



They work just fine in all of mine, but they are a little tight in my CAV ARMS MKII lowers.


http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/ar15-magazine-torture-test-in-shotgun-news/

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=468826&page=3

last post on ar15.com says the article will eventually go on tacticalgunfan.com - i don't see it there yet ...

RMTactical
01-06-2010, 17:21
http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/ar15-magazine-torture-test-in-shotgun-news/

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=17&t=468826&page=3

last post on ar15.com says the article will eventually go on tacticalgunfan.com - i don't see it there yet ...

Thanks. :)

dudel
01-06-2010, 17:42
20 rnd Magpul PMags work great in my CMMG. Got one, and just kept getting them. I've no need to look further. Got another one today from Primary Arms. $12.99 per mag. Not bad at all.

Cheap enough that I'm going to get one the use in a cleaning stand I'm building. Anchor the base to the tray and lock the lower into the map.

markman
01-06-2010, 18:46
If you don't mind that they're not the current version, Magpul Window PMAG Gen 1 (NON REV M) 10 Pack (Foliage Green) for $99.95 FREE Shipping

http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/2605/magpul-window-pmag-gen-1-non-rev-m-foliage-green%E2%80%93%E2%80%93-10-pack.cfm

RMTactical
01-06-2010, 19:47
If you don't mind if they're not the current version, Magpul Window PMAG Gen 1 (NON REV M) 10 Pack (Foliage Green) for $99.95 FREE Shipping


http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/2605/magpul-window-pmag-gen-1-non-rev-m-foliage-green%E2%80%93%E2%80%93-10-pack.cfm

That is an excellent deal.

1811guy
01-06-2010, 21:26
Nice thread resurrection! It was just shy of a year old!:wow:

jdm0506
01-07-2010, 10:15
Nice thread resurrection! It was just shy of a year old!:wow:

Haha. Good call. I was quite puzzled by the references to mag availability and pricing on the first page.

Mnukedude
01-11-2010, 05:49
Canada especially - they coined the term "Thermelt". Apparaently they do not hold up well under sustained fire.

So I've heard.

Where I work, we've been dropping HK magazines in favor of Magpuls. They have been solid performers for us, at 1/3 the price.

Given that Magpuls are inexpensive and easily found and Thermolds have an iffy reputation, I'd skip them and go with the Magpuls.

HogGlocker
01-11-2010, 17:41
My .02 [worth little due to economic environment]

I have used USGI [actual, not those claiming to be] since the 1980's.

They work....and the ones Uncle Sam gave me for an all expenses paid tour of Iraq worked as well...

Thermolds...Thermelts as some runs were called....I have used them and only refuse to throw them away because they may work in a pinch one day...some day.

PMAGS work, period. I have many....they all work in multiple rifles. Magpul schitt is simply good schitt:)

I will call a current toss up between using a PMAG or a USGI contract mag at this time...I've used USGI far, far longer so take that as you will.

CWII
01-13-2010, 05:33
I'm curious to see a torture test of the new PMag with the larger window. It seems like it might affect the structural integrity to increase the size of the weaker clear plastic.