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Quack
01-20-2009, 16:46
seeing that this is a common type of thread, why not make a condensed thread with different (NIB) price points.

here's a few off the top of my head...


Less than $750:
Rock Island Armory (RIA)
STI Spartan
Springfield Armory (SA) Mil-spec, G.I.
Remington 1911-R1
Citadel
America Classic
Desert Eagle



$750 - $1000:
SA Loaded
SA Champion Operator
STI Trojan
STI Ranger II
STI Guardian
Kimber Custom II
S&W





$1000 - $1500:
SA TRP
SA Trophy Match
SA EMP
SA MC Operator
Dan Wesson Valor
Dan Wesson Guardian
STI Duty One
STI Sentry
STI Rangemaster

$1500 - $2000
STI Edge
STI Premier
Springfield Custom Shop Custom Carry
Les Baer



over $2000
Ed Brown
Wilson Combat
Springfield Custom Shop
Rock River Arms

bac1023
01-20-2009, 18:36
I was going to post a bunch of stuff and do a thread like this complete with pics and descriptions.

I've been saying that for a month or two. I started some drafts, but having continued.

I'll do it once I have my next two 1911s that I have on order. It should be this spring.

I the meantime, I can add a few to your list.

GlocksterPaulie
01-20-2009, 18:44
After bac gets the Two 1911's he is waiting for there will be more, don't let him fool you.

Paulie:whistling:

bac1023
01-20-2009, 18:45
seeing that this is a common type of thread, why not make a condensed thread with different (NIB) price points.

here's a few off the top of my head...


Less than $750:
Rock Island Armory (RIA)
STI Spartan
Springfield Armory (SA) Mil-spec, G.I.
Firestorm DLX
Charles Daly EFS
Thompson Custom 1911


$750 - $1000:
(SA) Loaded
STI Trojan
Dan Wesson (DW) CBOB, PM7
Kimber Custom II
S&W SW1911
Colt Gold Cup Trophy




$1000 - $1500:
SA TRP
SA EMP
Dan Wesson Valor
Colt Special Combat Government



$1500 - $2000
Baer Concept series
Baer TRS
Kimber Super Match
STI Legacy
S&W PC1911



over $2000

A bunch of stuff, but you need more catagories. There's a big difference between a $2K semi custom and a $4K+ Custom



Here's a few added.

bac1023
01-20-2009, 18:47
After bac gets the Two 1911's he is waiting for there will be more, don't let him fool you.

Paulie:whistling:

:supergrin:

Of course, but not this year. I want a custom from Gemini, but I won't be ordering it for a while and even then, its a year wait to get it.

Actually, I will be buying a Norinco later this year, I suppose.

The two on order are an SV Infinity and a Liebenberg Signature from Pistol Dynamics.

G21FAN
01-20-2009, 18:58
Colt Series '70 reissue

Colt 1991A1 NRM. Both are excellent for as is or a base for customization.

GlocksterPaulie
01-20-2009, 19:23
I hear the Gemini is really really sweet.

Paulie

leroyjq
01-20-2009, 19:27
STI
Trojan

srothman
01-20-2009, 20:02
I hear the Gemini is really really sweet.

Paulie

So do I.

Since Bac keeps posting all of his pics, and causing people to spend their money, I thought it was only fair.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/cookieguy-guns/P1000564.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/cookieguy-guns/P1000548.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/cookieguy-guns/P1000551.jpg

Bac, you really need one of these.........

I also think that the list would be in-complete without Wilson Combat on it? I would also consider putting Rock River on it, but not sure since they don't currently make 1911's?

bac1023
01-20-2009, 20:41
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/cookieguy-guns/P1000548.jpg

Bac, you really need one of these.........

I also think that the list would be in-complete without Wilson Combat on it? I would also consider putting Rock River on it, but not sure since they don't currently make 1911's?

srothman, I'm definitely ordering a Gemini as soon as possible. Mine won't be quite as flashy as yours, but will be artistic either way.

Yeah, RRA 1911s are awesome, but they did stop building them, at least for the time being. What a damn shame. :crying:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1724s.jpg

srothman
01-20-2009, 20:56
srothman, I'm definitely ordering a Gemini as soon as possible. Mine won't be quite as flashy as yours, but will be artistic either way.

Yeah, RRA 1911s are awesome, but they did stop building them, at least for the time being. What a damn shame. :crying:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/000_1724s.jpg

I will have to take some new pics, with the new grips.

It tones it down quite a bit, it removes some of the "bling" it has with them.

Hopefully when the current status of building AR's dies down, or levels off, Rock River will start making 1911's again.

GlocksterPaulie
01-20-2009, 21:03
Srothman,

Love the eye for detail and artistic approach on that 1911. Thanks for sharing.

Paulie

bac1023
01-20-2009, 21:15
I will have to take some new pics, with the new grips.

It tones it down quite a bit, it removes some of the "bling" it has with them.

Hopefully when the current status of building AR's dies down, or levels off, Rock River will start making 1911's again.

I'd like to see the Gemini with the new grips.

As far as RRA is concerned, I sure hope so. They build some of the best in the business.

5 screw smith
01-23-2009, 15:10
Quack;12114367]seeing that this is a common type of thread, why not make a condensed thread with different (NIB) price points. here's a few off the top of my head...

Less than $750:

$750 - $1000:
Dan Wesson (DW) CBOB
Kimber Royal

$1000 - $1500:
Dan Wesson Valor
Kimber Gold Combat II (Previous, not current production)
Kimber Aegis (New model with Commander hammer)
Kimber Tactical HD (New model)
Wilson Combat KZ45

$1500 - $2000 (Much closer to 2 grand)
Wilson Combat CQB (Base model)
Ed Brown Special Forces

over $2000
Ed Brown Special Forces Bobtail
Ed Brown Kobra Bobtail
Springfield Professional
The rest of the Wilson Combat models

Note: NIB prices are usually lower than MSRP

RUSH2112
01-25-2009, 10:16
As you can see in smith's post there are a ton of kimbers in each price range because they make so many darned variations on basically the same base. This is a good thing, I'm just saying the buyer needs to be aware that in such a list he may not see all the kimbers he may want to to consider.

And kimbers are so similar in performance and quality, if you're going to list one, there no reason to exclude any other, because there aren't good kimbers vs bad ones, as far as "which one is the best deal", there are simply different options and configurations.

bac1023
01-25-2009, 10:32
And kimbers are so similar in performance and quality, if you're going to list one, there no reason to exclude any other, because there aren't good kimbers vs bad ones, as far as "which one is the best deal", there are simply different options and configurations.

Umm, I don't agree.

There is a huge difference in the top of the line Kimber and the entry level Kimber. I've got both.

One is three times the price of the other, and its more than just cosmetics.

liliysdad
01-25-2009, 11:11
I disagree, Bac. They are all Custom IIs, with varying levels of pretty. When you open one of them up, they all share the same guts. Perhaps, at tone time, this was not the case, but can assure you it is now.

Their "Custom Shop" guns are a farce.

bac1023
01-25-2009, 11:35
I disagree, Bac. They are all Custom IIs, with varying levels of pretty. When you open one of them up, they all share the same guts. Perhaps, at tone time, this was not the case, but can assure you it is now.

Their "Custom Shop" guns are a farce.

I realize Kimber doesn't have a Custom shop, so to speak.

However, I see a very noticable difference in the fitting, finish, smoothness, trigger, and just overall quality, between the Super Match and the Custom II.

In fact, the SM comes with an accuracy guarentee and its a very accurate 1911, will the Custom II is average.

I realize I'm using the two extremes here, but the Super Match is a fine 1911. I thinks its the best full production 1911 on the market.

RUSH2112
01-25-2009, 12:06
Bac please read my post more carefully. I didn't say they are all exactly equal, I said similar in performance and quality, and I'm refering to all the models that fall within each of the above established price ranges, not the base model compared to the top of the line. I probably should have specified that.

I don't see the same upgrades in guts and performance-related options like you see, for example, between the SA GI and just one step higher in the Mil-Spec. With the SA you are actually deciding on performance related factors between the two guns in the same range +/- $50, where as with Kimber you just need to decide which cosmetic options you want, and things like ambi safety, more checkering, night sights, type finish. The one with more options is not a "better" gun, nor is either one a better "bargain" than the other.

Basically what I'm saying is regarding Kimber you can't just look at the above list and see "custom II" in the $750-1000 range, there are many variations a buyer needs to consider, and this choice is not about performance or quality.

bac1023
01-25-2009, 12:09
Bac please read my post more carefully. I didn't say they are all exactly equal, I said similar in performance and quality, and I'm refering to all the models that fall within each of the above established price ranges, not the base model compared to the top of the line. I probably should have specified that.

That's cool. Like I said, I was giving the extremes. I do agree that the vast majority of Kimber models are essentially the same level of quality.

Quack
11-11-2009, 18:30
just bringing this back to the top.

bac1023
11-11-2009, 18:36
just bringing this back to the top.

Yeah, I was two thirds of the way done the thread and needed a new computer.

I need to get the file off my old one.

Neener Neener
11-11-2009, 18:37
5 Screw, you need to take that CQB out of the $1500-$2000 bracket. I just bought one at dealer cost, and it was more than that!!

Ian
11-12-2009, 10:29
Just came across this great thread after searching for a couple of days.
It would help if it was a sticky, I think.

dances with guns
11-12-2009, 15:02
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/cookieguy-guns/P1000548.jpg






http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/do-want.jpg

dances with guns
11-12-2009, 15:04
for around $500 the parausa gi expert is a great shoot. for around $900 the springer champion operator is tuff to beat :cool:


http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/P1020340.jpg

BubbaShoots
11-12-2009, 17:28
I was going to post a bunch of stuff and do a thread like this complete with pics and descriptions.

I've been saying that for a month or two.

bac- I have been saving my money waiting for your post. I'm getting anxious to buy more. Don't wait until your Pistol Dynamics arrives because then you will spend too much time fondling it and will never get the post done. Maybe just post a quickie recap or an outline to fill-in later?
:crying:

Quack
11-12-2009, 17:45
bac- I have been saving my money waiting for your post. I'm getting anxious to buy more. Don't wait until your Pistol Dynamics arrives because then you will spend too much time fondling it and will never get the post done. Maybe just post a quickie recap or an outline to fill-in later?
:crying:

what's your price range?

BubbaShoots
11-13-2009, 17:22
what's your price range?
I have about $3,000 to spend and I don't know if I should buy one gun at that price or two guns for that total. I own a SA TRP Oper 1/2 rail and a Colt New Agent - love them both. I sold a Wilson CQB Compact SS because it kept going back with problems. Not sour on Wilson, just that gun. Open to suggestions.

Quack
11-13-2009, 17:41
how about trying a Baer, Brown or Custom Shop?

BubbaShoots
11-13-2009, 20:05
how about trying a Baer, Brown or Custom Shop?
I've looked at Brown but can't find a Baer to fondle. I'm also really curious about a DW Valor but have never seen one. I need a report like bac, and others, were discussing to gather some info.

Quack
11-13-2009, 20:10
the DW's are a very well put together for a production gun. was at a shop today fondling a PM-9 again. for the $ and not stepping into a semi-custom, the DW's are nice.

mikegun
11-14-2009, 22:05
Umm, I don't agree.

There is a huge difference in the top of the line Kimber and the entry level Kimber. I've got both.

One is three times the price of the other, and its more than just cosmetics.

I have 2 Kimbers both are excellant carry guns, one is a 4in pro cdp 11, the other is a 3 in stainless ultra carry, very comfy, both are tackdrivers,the most accurate guns i have ever owned especially thr 4 in, mild recoil, on both. I still carry a glock 357sig a lot, cause i like the round, but for everyday carry the 2 aluminum frame Kimbers are hard to beat....

mikegun
11-14-2009, 22:15
Umm, I don't agree.

There is a huge difference in the top of the line Kimber and the entry level Kimber. I've got both.

One is three times the price of the other, and its more than just cosmetics.

I have 2 Kimbers both are excellant carry guns, one is a 4in pro cdp 11, the other is a 3 in stainless ultra carry, very comfy, both are tackdrivers, i still carry a glock 357sig a lot, cause i like the round, but for everyday carry the 2 aluminum frame Kimbers are hard to beat....

Quack
07-02-2010, 08:57
to the top

bluelineman
07-02-2010, 20:11
This should be a stickie.

bac1023
07-02-2010, 20:32
I was going to post a bunch of stuff and do a thread like this complete with pics and descriptions.

I've been saying that for a month or two. I started some drafts, but having continued.

I'll do it once I have my next two 1911s that I have on order. It should be this spring.



Well, I posted this a year and a half ago and still haven't done it. I'll get it done this year.

Quack
07-27-2010, 19:38
bump for the new buyers

bac1023
07-27-2010, 20:28
bump for the new buyers

I actually rescued my 1911 buyer's guide thread from my old computer. I'm going to start working on it again.

Its going to be a mammoth thread, at about 25-30 pages. Of course, its a real PITA to do, but it should be worth it if we can make it a sticky and use it to answer questions.

Other's input will also be welcome. I'll post the thread, but it certainly won't be all about me or my opinions.

Hokie1911
07-27-2010, 20:39
I actually rescued my 1911 buyer's guide thread from my old computer. I'm going to start working on it again.

Its going to be a mammoth thread, at about 25-30 pages. Of course, its a real PITA to do, but it should be worth it if we can make it a sticky and use it to answer questions.

Other's input will also be welcome. I'll post the thread, but it certainly won't be all about me or my opinions.

Quit making excuses.....slacker. :tongueout:

bac1023
07-27-2010, 20:43
Quit making excuses.....slacker. :tongueout:

I have been slacking. :embarassed:

Threads like that are such a PITA to get done. :sigh:

When it stops being fun and starts becoming work, you know the thread is too long. However, if I'm going to post it, I'm going to do it right. :wavey:

Cobra64
07-27-2010, 21:56
Well, I posted this a year and a half ago and still haven't done it. I'll get it done this year.

I remember that. The categories were more finely delineated, which, in the case of the above several Kimber posts, would put Kimber in several of each categories. :)

sum-dum-guy
07-27-2010, 22:44
My favorites are the Wilsons and Nighthawks.

bac1023
07-28-2010, 04:28
My favorites are the Wilsons and Nighthawks.

Good choices :)

EM87
09-12-2010, 12:50
Wow, bac. 25-30 PAGES?!?

Can't wait to see it! EDA? (estimated DATE of arrival :P )

Quack
09-12-2010, 12:57
Wow, bac. 25-30 PAGES?!?

Can't wait to see it! EDA? (estimated DATE of arrival :P )

Deadline is the end of September...but he never said what year :tongueout::rofl:

packsaddle
09-12-2010, 14:52
Don't forget the Desert Eagle DE1911G.

Infallible
09-12-2010, 14:58
750-1000 Sig 1911, yes I love mine.

bac1023
09-12-2010, 19:19
Deadline is the end of September...but he never said what year :tongueout::rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

It should be done in a couple weeks, if not before.

It may be slightly delayed if my Morris comes in before then.

I'd like to get it to the range and include it. :supergrin:

bac1023
09-12-2010, 19:35
Wow, bac. 25-30 PAGES?!?

Can't wait to see it! EDA? (estimated DATE of arrival :P )

I'm looking at at least 30 pages.

BuckyP
09-12-2010, 20:34
seeing that this is a common type of thread, why not make a condensed thread with different (NIB) price points.

here's a few off the top of my head...

$1500 - $2000
STI Edge
Springfield Custom Shop Custom Carry
Les Baer


how about trying a Baer, Brown or Custom Shop?

Ok, whoever you are stop hacking into Quacks system and posting under his username.
:duel:

bluelineman
09-12-2010, 21:43
I'm looking at at least 30 pages.

We need lots of pics. Get your carpet cleaner fired up. :supergrin:

38 Super Fan
09-12-2010, 23:02
Ok, whoever you are stop hacking into Quacks system and posting under his username.
:duel:
:rofl:

bac1023
09-13-2010, 04:07
We need lots of pics. Get your carpet cleaner fired up. :supergrin:

:thumbsup:

hk_shootr
09-13-2010, 06:11
Wow,....lots of great info here!

Thanks to all!

Eyescream
09-13-2010, 06:32
I actually rescued my 1911 buyer's guide thread from my old computer. I'm going to start working on it again.

Its going to be a mammoth thread, at about 25-30 pages. Of course, its a real PITA to do, but it should be worth it if we can make it a sticky and use it to answer questions.

Other's input will also be welcome. I'll post the thread, but it certainly won't be all about me or my opinions.

Why don't you just make it a PDF?

knedrgr
09-13-2010, 10:07
Why don't you just make it a PDF?

that'll be great for us iPhone users, since we can save the PDF in iBook and can use it as a reference. :supergrin:

Quack
09-13-2010, 10:10
Crackhead...

bac1023
09-13-2010, 20:18
Why don't you just make it a PDF?

I may.

Right now, its a Word file. :)

Quack
09-13-2010, 20:23
WORD??? What, no Mac? :rofl:

BuckyP
09-13-2010, 20:27
WORD??? What, no Mac? :rofl:

Why not?

Office for MAC (http://www.microsoft.com/mac/images/heros/TechG_Landing_Hero.jpg)

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/images/heros/TechG_Landing_Hero.jpg

:tongueout::tongueout:

Hokie1911
09-13-2010, 20:27
that'll be great for us iPhone users, since we can save the PDF in iBook and can use it as a reference. :supergrin:

+1 for the good guys. Sucks for Quack....he's an iHater. :whistling:

http://www.snubian.com/images/douglas.jpg

bac1023
09-13-2010, 20:29
WORD??? What, no Mac? :rofl:

Nah, I've always been a PC kind of guy.

I've got three desktops floating around here. :rofl:

Quack
09-13-2010, 20:29
psst...my phone does PDF's :tongueout:

Cobra64
09-13-2010, 20:44
Why don't you just make it a PDF?

Yup. Bac could just upload the PDF to Google.docs, and post the link to it here. :)

I have a bunch of our gun club's documents stored and accessed that way.

Brian, give me a call at home.

knedrgr
09-13-2010, 20:44
[QUOTE=hokieshooterG23;15982121]+1 for the good guys. Sucks for Quack....he's an iHater. :whistling:

While Quack has converted me to 1911 member, I've converted him to a Mac user. So he already has drank the koolaid and ate the cookie. :rofl:

Quack
09-13-2010, 20:48
Not really, I was on a break. Had Apple II's and the original Macintosh. :tongueout:

Eyescream
09-13-2010, 22:12
I may.

Right now, its a Word file. :)

I can print a Word document to a PDF, but I have Acrobat Pro.

If you need me to convert it let me know. No problem.

Quack
09-19-2010, 19:43
bump-it

polizei1
09-20-2010, 08:04
Still waiting. :tongueout: I'm so jealous, Bac hasn't made me get my first 1911 yet...so I'll continue to wait.

-Cody

bac1023
09-20-2010, 16:47
Still waiting. :tongueout: I'm so jealous, Bac hasn't made me get my first 1911 yet...so I'll continue to wait.

-Cody

Almost done, actually. :)

EM87
09-20-2010, 16:56
Almost done, actually. :)

OMG I can't even explain how excited I am for bac's 1911 guide to be finished and posted!

bac1023
09-20-2010, 16:58
OMG I can't even explain how excited I am for bac's 1911 guide to be finished and posted!

:rofl:

Thanks :)

However, it won't be just mine.

I'm hoping a few of my 1911 buddies here will add to it. :wavey:

EM87
09-20-2010, 17:08
I feel like the guide is something I'm going to reference frequently, especially during the hunt for my first 1911 (which is happening now).

Is it going to have a cool name? Something epic, like COTEFT epic? :supergrin:

bac1023
09-20-2010, 19:17
Is it going to have a cool name? Something epic, like COTEFT epic? :supergrin:

:animlol:

I'm actually not even sure of the exact title. :dunno:

Cobra64
09-20-2010, 19:59
:animlol:

I'm actually not even sure of the exact title. :dunno:

Why not start a new thread, "Name my Buyer's Guide." The winner gets an empty Les Baer cardboard box.



I'll start:

1911 Ways to Buy a 1911


1911 Reasons Not to Buy a Taurus




.

bac1023
09-20-2010, 20:00
Why not start a new thread, "Name my Buyer's Guide." The winner gets an empty Les Baer cardboard box.



I'll start:

1911 Ways to Buy a 1911


1911 Reasons Not to Buy a Taurus




.




:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

knedrgr
09-20-2010, 20:47
How about these titles:

1911s are out dated just like a Harley Davidson

or

1911 reasons why 1911s haven't changed in 100 years

Hokie1911
09-20-2010, 20:55
How about these titles:

1911s are out dated just like a Harley Davidson

or

1911 reasons why 1911s haven't changed in 100 years

:animlol:

polizei1
09-20-2010, 21:12
How about:

1911's - The Guide Without Quack Triggers?

Quack
09-20-2010, 21:15
Perfect title:

The Super-Mega-Awesome 1911 review so you don't have to start a thread "what 1911 should I buy" on GlockTalk, and don't blame us that your wife/GF isn't gonna talk to you when she finds out how much money you just spent on a gun because those other guys must live with their parents and don't have a wife/GF/kids buyers guide.

Quack
09-20-2010, 21:16
How about:

1911's - The Guide Without Quack Triggers?

Quack triggers are going to be in there.

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1006881327_fdjmY-L.jpg

bluelineman
09-20-2010, 21:24
Quack triggers are going to be in there.

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/1006881327_fdjmY-L.jpg

Is that a Quack 1911 with BAC carpet? :wow: :rofl:

Quack
09-20-2010, 21:25
Is that a Quack 1911 with BAC carpet? :wow: :rofl:

yes...

Hokie1911
09-20-2010, 21:31
Is that a Quack 1911 with BAC carpet? :wow: :rofl:

Bac's EGW. Sweetass pistola...even with the QuackTrigger.

lawdog734
09-20-2010, 21:45
Is that a Quack 1911 with BAC carpet? :wow: :rofl:

The perfect storm

Quack
09-26-2010, 14:18
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16048313

bac1023
09-26-2010, 15:14
Is that a Quack 1911 with BAC carpet? :wow: :rofl:

The perfect storm

:rofl:

syr74
09-27-2010, 18:31
I can't believe this, all of the talk about flat triggers is actually beginning to make me seriously think of trying one. It's like a cult or something and it's beginning to mess with my head. :tinfoil:

bac1023
09-27-2010, 18:32
I can't believe this, all of the talk about flat triggers is actually beginning to make me seriously think of trying one. It's like a cult or something and it's beginning to mess with my head. :tinfoil:

You must resist. :cool:

Quack
09-27-2010, 18:35
it's kinda like when i was single and told the girls i was dating "try it, you'll like it" :animlol:

knedrgr
09-27-2010, 18:57
I can't believe this, all of the talk about flat triggers is actually beginning to make me seriously think of trying one. It's like a cult or something and it's beginning to mess with my head. :tinfoil:

:welcome: to the revolution! This one :rock:

syr74
09-27-2010, 18:57
You must resist. :cool:

I'm working on it.

it's kinda like when i was single and told the girls i was dating "try it, you'll like it" :animlol:

Quack, you're killin' me with the non-stop, flat trigger assault here.

knedrgr
09-27-2010, 18:58
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/fourstardrift/Guns%20stuff/2010-DW-CCO_blacked-out-trigger.jpg

Quack
09-27-2010, 19:07
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_3918-1.jpg

Quack
09-27-2010, 19:08
and the loaner converted too...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_3932.jpg

syr74
09-27-2010, 19:12
For the love of all that is good and holy.....it's like dealing with a pimp, only the 'product' in this case is a flat trigger. :faint:

knedrgr
09-27-2010, 19:20
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