Thank you. You made my point. When a person is not specific, the general responses may be useless. Come down from Redding during the southern California fire season and witness hundreds of thousands of acres going up. My club is 50 miles north of me. Idyllic. Oak trees. All the buildings and containers burned within 15 minutes a couple of years ago. I have no idea how many people thought that they would bug out from LA to the club if shtf, but it is unrealistic.