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Haldor 10-31-2009 08:49

Ruger Mark II Mount Advice
 
I am looking to mount a red dot sight on my 6" Ruger Mark II pistol. It is not drilled for a rail. Here is a pic of my pistol.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...l/IMG_1070.jpg

I have seen rails that replace the rear sight and other ones that clamp onto the receiver.

http://www.rimfiresports.com/graphic...1/BSS42877.jpg
http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchan...ory_Code=VC2SM

Or replace the rear sight:

http://www.mgwltd.com/images/22mount.jpg
http://www.mgwltd.com/firearms.shtml

Any recommendations on the best way to move forward? I plan on mounting an UltraDot sight on it, so the rail will need to be pretty stout.

Am I better off just getting my pistol drilled and tapped to use a standard rail like this?

http://www.rimfiresports.com/graphic...0001/VC2SM.jpg

HAMMERHEAD 10-31-2009 10:30

I just got the Weigand mount no drill, no tap mount, very satisfied.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=412667
They make it in silver too. Looks a lot like the MGW mount, but uses two screws in the dovetail.

deadite 10-31-2009 14:53

Personally, I'd get it drilled and tapped.

I just ordered a Ruger factory mount for my dad's Mark II and I'll probably do the same for my Mark II. I like them and they're made for the Marks. They come with the screws, too. Most gunsmiths will charge around $15-20.00 a hole for D&Ting. This particular one would look great on your Ruger:

http://shopruger.com/22-Target-Pisto...uctinfo/90224/

http://shopruger.com/images/90224-L.jpg

Plus, it has the Ruger logo. :) I like it specifically because it sits really close to the top of the gun and doesn't unnessesarily float higher than it has to.

Btw, the Mark II that I just traded for had one of those clamp mounts (pictured above in your post) on it and when it was eventually removed it really marked up the finish of the top half. If you D&T, you can always get the little flush mount screws that thread in and disappear from notice if you decide to remove the mount.

After you get the red-dot installed, you should get the Volquartsen trigger and sear. :) You won't believe the difference.

deadite

Another Miller 11-01-2009 06:22

Get it drilled and tapped,get a weaver base that accepts any weaver rings or red dot.The new ruger base supplied with competition models set up with "weaver style mount" is all you would need.


It accepts standard ruger filler screws.Same ones used on a 10/22.



Make sure though that the person who drills and taps it does it right and is centered.

Haldor 11-01-2009 06:52

Thanks for the input guys. I have been leaning towards going the easy way (clamp on mount), but a little voice keeps telling me "you'll regret it if you cheap out". Now if I can just find that little bastard, I'll make him regret it. :rofl:

Haldor 11-01-2009 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadite (Post 14082228)
After you get the red-dot installed, you should get the Volquartsen trigger and sear. :) You won't believe the difference.

deadite

Is this a drop in conversion or does it require fitting? I like my Mark I and II, but after firing my buddies Buckmark, I am having trigger envy.

Another Miller 11-01-2009 07:12

They drop in but require fitting.lol.


It will help with your trigger though,a vast improvement over the stock trigger.Worth every cent.

Clamp on mounts are fine if you put them on and leave them on permanently.Otherwise,taking them off and on,you see nice little marks left behind.

deadite 11-01-2009 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haldor (Post 14085657)
Is this a drop in conversion or does it require fitting? I like my Mark I and II, but after firing my buddies Buckmark, I am having trigger envy.

The three times I've installed the Volquartsen triggers and sears, they were drop-in. No fitting required. All you have to do after you install them is adjust the set screws to your preference and loctite them in place. No biggie.

Some of the other aftermarket triggers, like Clark Custom, do require a little fitting.

If you decide to do it, PM me and I'll walk you through it. There are a ton of really good sites that have info on the upgrades.

deadite

deadite 11-01-2009 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haldor (Post 14085650)
Thanks for the input guys. I have been leaning towards going the easy way (clamp on mount), but a little voice keeps telling me "you'll regret it if you cheap out". Now if I can just find that little bastard, I'll make him regret it. :rofl:

Before I upgraded mine, I was pricing it out and figured that it would be about $25.00 more if I D&T it vs. clamp-on. That's $25.00 well spent if you ask me. :)

deadite

DriBak 11-03-2009 18:16

Hooper Ordnance will drill and tap for 25.00 total

filthy infidel 11-10-2009 15:15

I have a 50th anniversary MkII blued with the standard barrel. It has a B-Square clamp-on mount that wears a $35 BSA red dot. I installed the B-Square with red Locktite. It creeps a little in several hundreds of shots. It attracts attention at the range and shoots like the proverbial laser beam.
I bought everything new and have less than $400 in it.

M2 Carbine 11-19-2009 20:58

Some years ago I made this clamp on mount for my Ruger. I also made a couple for friends. The clamp on mount works fine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../Ruger2245.jpg

deadite 11-19-2009 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by M2 Carbine (Post 14200981)
Some years ago I made this clamp on mount for my Ruger. I also made a couple for friends. The clamp on mount works fine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../Ruger2245.jpg

Nice work! I like that you can still use the factory sights.

deadite

BSA70 11-21-2009 06:17

I wanted to do and did the same thing. I bought a pretty nice non drill mount. Would not do it again. I could never get it completely solid until I used a wire tie. Its bulky. Worst of all,It will scratch the heck out of where ever it touches.

Find a gun smith to tap the holes. It will be a quality mount and you will not be sorry like I have been.:steamed:

M2 Carbine 11-21-2009 09:02

The Ruger MKIII comes drilled for the supplied mount. It's a nice setup but with the Red Dot or scope installed the iron sights can't be used.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...SARDBZ30SB.jpg

Another useful setup for the Ruger with a bull barrel is installing a rail under the barrel for a light or laser/light.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ironsights.jpg

I installed this rail a couple years ago for inexpensive laser/light practice and it's become one of my most useful guns. Not only is it great for day and night practice but it's handy for walking around the place at night.

filthy infidel 12-05-2009 17:31

Plus two or so for being able to use the iron sights too. Neighbor called me, giant beanstalk sized African fellow refused to install her cable because a tiny black snake was under the house. Reverse Kentucky windage is hard under a house at eight yards with a red dot sight.

Haldor 12-28-2009 06:27

Thanks all.

I have decided to hold off on installing optics on my Mark II. I did install a Volquartsen sear and while reassembly was a PITA (mostly because I couldn't remember how all the little bits went back together and the illustration in the manual was useless). The Volquartsen sear was definitely worth installing. Before the upgrade, my Mark II trigger was identical to my son's Mark I. Afterward the trigger pull is noticable smoother and more consistent than the Mark I. The Mark I's trigger is not bad either, it is just not as good as the Mark II with the Volquartsen sear.

Haven't been able to get out to the range since the sear upgrade and I can't wait to see what it does to my group size. I have two toys to wring out, my upgraded Mark II and my new to me Model 29-4 44 mag. Now there is a study in contrasts.

Pop, Pop, Pop

BaWhooom!, BaWhooom!

Should be lots of fun.

deadite 12-29-2009 12:49

Sounds like you're in for some fun!

I just tricked out my dad's Mark II with V trigger, sear, extractor, factory rail, and red-dot. We went shooting the day after Christmas at an indoor range and had the best time. :)

Congrats!

deadite

OVERTHEHILLGUY 01-06-2010 20:57

Spend the extra bucks an get it drilled & tapped. You will most likely keep that pistol the rest of your life. OVERTHEHILLGUY

mteagle1 01-07-2010 11:30

I would hate to see someone screw up the gun drilling and tapping it, gunsmiths are just people and they have been known to F-UP things. I would look at the Weigand mount from Midway because all that is involved is removing 1 screw. Use some BLUE loctite for securing the screw in the mount.

OVERTHEHILLGUY 01-07-2010 11:33

very good point! Overthehillguy


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