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ICARRY2 07-10-2011 19:10

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel's Proposed Gun Range Ordinances
 
http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2011...nge-ordinance/

I'm surprised patrons aren't required to be fingerprinted and photographed for each visit and the prints and photo be sent to the Chicago PD everytime along with the make, model, caliber and serial number of each gun.

I wonder if you get to keep your empty brass and take it home? :rofl:

bob_fuller 07-10-2011 19:15

I'm so glad I don't live in a hell hole like Chicago...

Carrys 07-10-2011 19:26

I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?

"Never let a good crisis go to waste".....and if there isn't one, invent it dude. The not so great one.

Folsom_Prison 07-10-2011 19:48

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm glad I live in Kansas. :supergrin:

RightGlock1 07-10-2011 19:53

Thank God I live in Texas.......

Rahm is a total TOOL.

A6Gator 07-10-2011 20:13

Looks like it's pretty clear Dead Fish doesn't want gun ranges in Chicago...people get the government they deserve.

m2hmghb 07-10-2011 20:14

He's trying to do an end around. The SAF and NRA have filed suits that the chicago rules are a ban on weapons since they require proficiency but there is no range to use.

Fox 07-10-2011 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrys (Post 17612210)
I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?

Remember the white house leak that Obama was seeking "steath gun control"

The socialist gang in power are using Saul Alynski's game plan to infiltrate the system to bore from within. They are all about deciet and subversion.

redbaron007 07-10-2011 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrys (Post 17612210)
I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?

"Never let a good crisis go to waste".....and if there isn't one, invent it dude. The not so great one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 17612491)
Remember the white house leak that Obama was seeking "steath gun control"

The socialist gang in power are using Saul Alynski's game plan to infiltrate the system to bore from within. They are all about deciet and subversion.

^^
Agree +1000


You know, Jesus probably couldn't build and maintain a shooting range in Chicago; and he could walk on water! :dunno:


:wavey:

red

Conan1 07-10-2011 20:27

I love Kentucky!!!

rdbjr57 07-10-2011 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by conan1 (Post 17612549)
i love kentucky!!!

this!!!!! ^^^^

ScarFace88 07-10-2011 20:35

Florida FTW!

69stingray 07-10-2011 20:35

went to Chicago once, but it counts as two times.... first and last time.

frank4570 07-10-2011 20:40

Bribes will take care of most of this. Welcome to America.

GioaJack 07-10-2011 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbaron007 (Post 17612537)
^^
Agree +1000


You know, Jesus probably couldn't build and maintain a shooting range in Chicago; and he could walk on water! :dunno:


:wavey:

red


That's no big deal, I can too... if it's cold enough. :whistling:


Jack

Bren 07-10-2011 20:53

The big one is this:
Quote:

Ranges can not operate within 1000 feet of another range, any district zoned for residential use, any school, day-care, park, place of worship, premises licensed for retail sale of liquor, any “children’s activities facility”, library, museum, or hospital.
As we have discovered with the 1,000 foot limit on sex offenders living near school and daycares, that eliminates virtually all of most cities and Kentucky cities are much less dense than Chicago. Thrown in 1,000 feet from every place that sells liquor, and every park and place zoned for residential use and you have eliminated ALL of Chicago, I'd guess.

GAFinch 07-10-2011 23:19

Too bad the regulations on that webpage aren't cited...

N4LP 07-11-2011 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAFinch (Post 17613305)
Too bad the regulations on that webpage aren't cited...

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/file...-ordinance.pdf

RussP 07-11-2011 05:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bren (Post 17612698)
The big one is this:

As we have discovered with the 1,000 foot limit on sex offenders living near school and daycares, that eliminates virtually all of most cities and Kentucky cities are much less dense than Chicago. Thrown in 1,000 feet from every place that sells liquor, and every park and place zoned for residential use and you have eliminated ALL of Chicago, I'd guess.

Here's another one, Bren.

Let's say a license is issued, on Page 5, Paragraph (f) says the commissioner may deny an application for renewal if the license would have a deleterious impact on the health, safety or welfare of the community. It goes on to say a deleterious impact is presumed to exist whenever there have been a substantial number of arrests withing 500 feet of premises within the previous two years. What's "substantial"?

The kicker is the later the new ordinance references and includes the meaning of deleterious impact found in Chapter 4-60, The Deleterious Impact/Public Nuisance Ordinance: “Deleterious impact” means an adverse effect on the value of any property, an increased risk of violations of law, or a risk of a substantial increase in noise, litter, or vehicular congestion.

Bren 07-11-2011 05:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussP (Post 17613591)
Here's another one, Bren.

Let's say a license is issued, on Page 5, Paragraph (f) says the commissioner may deny an application for renewal if the license would have a deleterious impact on the health, safety or welfare of the community. It goes on to say a deleterious impact is presumed to exist whenever there have been a substantial number of arrests withing 500 feet of premises within the previous two years. What's "substantial"?

The kicker is the later the new ordinance references and includes the meaning of deleterious impact found in Chapter 4-60, The Deleterious Impact/Public Nuisance Ordinance: “Deleterious impact” means an adverse effect on the value of any property, an increased risk of violations of law, or a risk of a substantial increase in noise, litter, or vehicular congestion.

The whole thing has been carefully worded to intentionally allow arbitrary denials of permits, while having an argument to raise when it is challenged as unconstitutionally arbitrary. I suspect they used the word "substantial" too many times, and eliminated too much of the city, to withstand a constitutional challenge, but somebody will have to pay to find out. Essentially the whole regulations says that "if you can find any spot in Chicago that would comply with these regs, then we can give you a permit, if we want to.

gwalchmai 07-11-2011 05:28

Ahh, Chicago, no matter which road you leave by, the wind is always in your face.

jhoagland 07-11-2011 05:41

I understand that.
Chicago sux!

airmotive 07-11-2011 06:21

Quit trying to discourage Chicago!!
Every day, more and more businesses and people with decency and common sense make the move from Northern Illinois to Indiana, leaving that **** hole to the turd polishers.
The city is corrupt top-to-bottom, and they got the government they deserve.

Hopefully, the good mayor will remember to raise taxes this year.

HexHead 07-11-2011 06:29

Kim Jung Emanuel.

snwbrdr435 07-11-2011 06:30

Thank god i live in ma, wait what.


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