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blackgun556 04-27-2012 12:49

Got the Mech Tech
 
I got my 10mm Mech Tech CCU last week. It seems to be a very sound unit. I took it to the range and it shot great. took about 4 shots to dial in the eotech.
It took my 180gr golden saber out of 5.2 barrel from 1250fps to 1420fps out of the 16.25fps. It is a blast to shoot. it even feed my my converted Asian Military 45acp mags with no problems. Now the only problem it the amount of ammo it goes threw. :wow:

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/...mmCarbine1.jpghttp://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/...mmCarbine2.jpg

_The_Shadow 04-27-2012 13:12

Very nice! Be careful with the para chord as it could intefere with mag seating...:shocked:

I don't really like to give up the pistol while using the frame for the carbine...:dunno:

Mongosafari 04-27-2012 13:31

Congrats. Mech Tech CCU's are great. I have the Glock 40 S&W because of ammo availability (issue).
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/749c26f9.jpg

Mine now wears flip up AR front and rear sights in addition to the Vortex Strikefire.
I liked how simple it was to dissassemble and clean the unit.

I like the 550 cord wraps you tied on your.

Angry Fist 04-27-2012 17:28

Cool setup. I like the paracord wrapped mags. :cool:

Would you mind telling us about the mags and how you got them to work?

Yondering 04-27-2012 19:42

These MechTech units are great. I've got one of the old ones in 45 for a 1911 frame; it's one of my favorite guns to shoot. Really easy to rapid fire and stay on target. Of course the first thing I did to mine was get rid of the silly muzzle decoration (they don't even bother to call it a brake anymore). I'm thinking of getting another in 10mm for the G20 frame.

On a side note, I recently picked up a Keltec Sub2000 in .40 for backpack carry, because it folds up, and should give about the same ballistics as a 10mm pistol. It's about the same price as the MechTech (mostly due to demand) but nowhere near as nice to shoot, or as accurate.

gofastman 04-27-2012 20:20

wouldn't 1420fps kersplode a 180gr Golden Sabre?

Ethereal Killer 04-27-2012 22:38

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Originally Posted by Angry Fist (Post 18900223)
Cool setup. I like the paracord wrapped mags. :cool:

Would you mind telling us about the mags and how you got them to work?


yes, please do tell us the method you used to make these asian military mags work. we have a thread about that very subject with no advice yet.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1405249

blackgun556 04-27-2012 22:47

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Originally Posted by gofastman (Post 18900878)
wouldn't 1420fps kersplode a 180gr Golden Sabre?

1420fps was the average, the high was 1447fps and they were in grouping in a 4" group at 40 yards so I say no

Here is the link for the magazines.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1384302


Thanks for the complements I can't wait to get out tomorrow and try to get gofer or a rabbit. :supergrin:

gofastman 04-28-2012 12:47

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1420fps was the average, the high was 1447fps and they were in grouping in a 4" group at 40 yards so I say no
I ment from a terminal balistics standpoint.
I thought the consensus was the "standard" 180gr GS is a fairly wimpy bullet when moved at even a really hot .40 velocity, lets say above 1150FPS

PsTaN 04-28-2012 18:58

Nice .... can it be used without a rear stock? How's the accuracy?

PsTaN

bac1023 04-28-2012 20:18

Congrats! :cool:

Yondering 04-28-2012 20:54

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Originally Posted by PsTaN (Post 18904135)
Nice .... can it be used without a rear stock? How's the accuracy?

PsTaN

Yes, they can be used without the stock. That is the "base model" that they sell, the stock is extra, and there are several choices.

I can't speak for the 10mm unit, but my 45 MechTech makes one ragged hole at 25 yards with the right ammo. The barrel did need some break-in time though, as the rifling was pretty sharp and didn't like lead bullets at first.

The length and balance of these make them very fast handling too.

I think I'm talking myself into a 10mm version.

blackgun556 04-28-2012 21:54

I only got about 100rd threw it but it seems to be pretty accurate.
I found some of the Golden Sabre and they did retain there jackets. I had to dig them out of the dirt so they were pretty mangled. for the money this gun is the best bang for the buck. its a blast.

PsTaN 04-29-2012 08:07

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Originally Posted by Yondering (Post 18904548)
Yes, they can be used without the stock. That is the "base model" that they sell, the stock is extra, and there are several choices.

I can't speak for the 10mm unit, but my 45 MechTech makes one ragged hole at 25 yards with the right ammo. The barrel did need some break-in time though, as the rifling was pretty sharp and didn't like lead bullets at first.

The length and balance of these make them very fast handling too.

I think I'm talking myself into a 10mm version.

Interesting .... would make a nice 10mm long-barrel hunting pistol.

PsTaN

blackgun556 04-29-2012 08:55

Interesting .... would make a nice 10mm long-barrel hunting pistol.

PsTaN

you can order it in any configuration you would like. They even have a telestock.
it only takes a min. and i can unscrew my stock and your ready to go.
check it out!
http://www.mechtechsys.com/accessories.php#a2

Yondering 04-29-2012 16:55

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Originally Posted by PsTaN (Post 18905696)
Interesting .... would make a nice 10mm long-barrel hunting pistol.

PsTaN

Pretty heavy for that though, and not balanced right to use a normal handgun grip style. They are pretty front heavy for a "pistol" configuration, but balance well with a buttstock, when you hold it like a rifle.

If you are limited by hunting restrictions to using 10mm in a pistol but not a rifle, this could work well though. I'd want an extension out the back in place of the stock, for a cheek weld to help line up the sights, like shooting a pistol AR with a buffer tube.

Mongosafari 04-30-2012 07:51

I must agree, it would be an aquward pistol but makes a very nice pictol caliber carbine. The weight may surprise you a bit- it is built SOLID and rugged.

I was considering using it from a tree stand on a deer but my 44 Mag lever gun has more punch and my old woods gun a 35 Rem lever gun has evem more energy.

If I was king, I would have ONE custom made in 44 Auto-Magnum.

nickE10mm 04-30-2012 08:26

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Originally Posted by gofastman (Post 18900878)
wouldn't 1420fps kersplode a 180gr Golden Sabre?

You owe me a new keyboard

Oh, and to the OP.... I MUST own one of these. Next on the list? Maybe so.

ModGlock17 06-19-2012 05:03

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Originally Posted by Yondering (Post 18900756)
....

On a side note, I recently picked up a Keltec Sub2000 in .40 for backpack carry, because it folds up, and should give about the same ballistics as a 10mm pistol. It's about the same price as the MechTech (mostly due to demand) but nowhere near as nice to shoot, or as accurate.

I've got a Sub-2000, too. Its folding capability allows it to go inside a computer softcase. About 2-3" groups at 25 yrds for 9mm ammo.

The MechTech is on my horizon. I just wish the 10mm bullet profile is better geared for a longer and accurate flight than a handgun range.

Yondering 06-19-2012 20:11

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Originally Posted by ModGlock17 (Post 19105820)
I've got a Sub-2000, too. Its folding capability allows it to go inside a computer softcase. About 2-3" groups at 25 yrds for 9mm ammo.

The MechTech is on my horizon. I just wish the 10mm bullet profile is better geared for a longer and accurate flight than a handgun range.

Now that I've shot my Sub2000 more, I can say the MechTech is definitely more accurate. As a rough estimate, I'd say my MechTech has about the same accuracy at 75 yards as my Sub2000 does at 25 yards. There is a noticeable difference in weight too; the MechTech is much heavier and solid feeling.

Also of possible interest - the Sub2000 with it's 16" barrel in .40 S&W produces almost identical ballistics to my 6.6" 10mm G20 longslide. My 160gr cast hollow points, with 40 S&W book loads (9.0gr Power Pistol, book max is 9.2) do 1650 fps in the little Keltec, and 1550 fps with a 155gr JHP and the same load. I'd like to see what could be done with comparable 10mm loads in the MechTech.

nickE10mm 06-20-2012 06:01

Is the OP's pictured stock the "M4" stock?

blackgun556 06-20-2012 18:46

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Originally Posted by Yondering (Post 19108739)
Now that I've shot my Sub2000 more, I can say the MechTech is definitely more accurate. As a rough estimate, I'd say my MechTech has about the same accuracy at 75 yards as my Sub2000 does at 25 yards. There is a noticeable difference in weight too; the MechTech is much heavier and solid feeling.

Also of possible interest - the Sub2000 with it's 16" barrel in .40 S&W produces almost identical ballistics to my 6.6" 10mm G20 longslide. My 160gr cast hollow points, with 40 S&W book loads (9.0gr Power Pistol, book max is 9.2) do 1650 fps in the little Keltec, and 1550 fps with a 155gr JHP and the same load. I'd like to see what could be done with comparable 10mm loads in the MechTech.

I was going out to the range I could take it out and see what I come up with. I looked threw my ammo stash and all I have is 1 box 155gr xtp but there loaded at 9.6 of power pistol. (10gr is max in my in my Hornady ) well that help any?

blackgun556 06-20-2012 18:52

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Originally Posted by nickE10mm (Post 19109726)
Is the OP's pictured stock the "M4" stock?

Its not the one from mechtech but its close. I had it laying around so I just got the m4 adapter and used it.

Yondering 06-20-2012 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackgun556 (Post 19112221)
I was going out to the range I could take it out and see what I come up with. I looked threw my ammo stash and all I have is 1 box 155gr xtp but there loaded at 9.6 of power pistol. (10gr is max in my in my Hornady ) well that help any?

Sure, post up. That's a relatively light load (.6gr more powder in a bigger case volume), but I'd like to know.

ModGlock17 06-21-2012 05:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yondering (Post 19108739)
Now that I've shot my Sub2000 more, I can say the MechTech is definitely more accurate. As a rough estimate, I'd say my MechTech has about the same accuracy at 75 yards as my Sub2000 does at 25 yards. There is a noticeable difference in weight too; the MechTech is much heavier and solid feeling.

Also of possible interest - the Sub2000 with it's 16" barrel in .40 S&W produces almost identical ballistics to my 6.6" 10mm G20 longslide. My 160gr cast hollow points, with 40 S&W book loads (9.0gr Power Pistol, book max is 9.2) do 1650 fps in the little Keltec, and 1550 fps with a 155gr JHP and the same load. I'd like to see what could be done with comparable 10mm loads in the MechTech.

It's true that the Sub2000 has the feel of a toy gun. I'd taken the thing completely apart and polished trigger mechanism, so mine still has the long pre-travel while very buttery soft. That helps tighten grouping at 25 yards. However, about the only thing that has any weight to it, is the barrel piece. As a system, it is tough to steady a toy gun like firearm. I'd expect the .40 Sub2000 to be heavier than my 9mm. My 9mm Sub2000's real advantages are its lightness, fold-ability, and Walmart ammo availability.

Mechtech, in contrast, seems to have more substance to handle a lot more powder in the 10mm. I'd expect the 10mm MechTech to be a heavier gun than other caliber MechTech conversions. I'd also expect that you can "test fire" the .40 in the 10mm conversion, just for a few rounds.

My impression of MechTech advantages are its trigger would still be my G20 trigger, and my G20 ammo... With a lot more guidance down range from a hefty system. It would be the best long range 10mm conversion system at $500 ballpark, or long range 10mm system at $1000 with a handgun option, lot better than an AK-47 size wise to carry.


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