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g30sfjeepguy 06-13-2012 05:39

G25-g28
 
So when I have always seen these .380 glocks G25-28 on glocks website but for LE only. I have never seen one before and when i tried to ask a LGS owner about it one day he looked at me like i was crazy and said he'd never heard of a .380 glock but he did listen to what i had to say and told me he'd look into. So my question is have any of you seen one or better yet been a lucky one and own one? I'd like to see some pics of them because glock doesnt even offer pics.

Breadman03 06-13-2012 07:07

http://www.teamglockracing.com/glock...e/Glock-25.htm

g30sfjeepguy 06-13-2012 08:03

Thanks for that link very useful. I'd love to own that 28.

g30sfjeepguy 06-13-2012 16:33

My next question would be why are they LE only

Breadman03 06-13-2012 17:04

There is a point system for imported firearms. It doesn't apply to long guns, but they basically assign a point value to various metrics like size weight, caliber, trigger type, safety, etc. The gun must meet or exceed 75 points, and the .380 Glocks don't meet it. I guess there is an exemption for LEO purchases.

Breadman03 06-13-2012 17:07

Check this link. It is a PDF form for calculating the points of a pistol from the BATFE.
http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5330-5.pdf

denn1911 06-13-2012 20:58

My guess is that this would be a very soft shooter. Too bad it can't be an option for those that want it.

MakeMineA10mm 07-24-2012 20:16

Here's mine:

http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/...pictureid=2886

It's a gimmick or collector's piece as far as I'm concerned. It is exact same size as a G-26 and shoots a less-powerful round. Really an answer in search of a question...

RLZIII 07-24-2012 22:14

Some questions:

Why does the magazine look that way in the above image? Any purpose?

From what I understand, the GLOCK 25 and GLOCK 28 are blowback operation (opposed to locked breech operated). Does this significantly change the internals? If so, what parts are added/missing/changed?

Thanks!

MakeMineA10mm 07-25-2012 12:05

The recessed back on the mags is to make up the difference in the overall length of .380 rounds vs. 9mm, while still having the magazine fill up the 9mm sized mag well.

The only difference on the internals are shown in the photo above. Rather that the (square) front of the barrel hood engaging the mating rear surface of the slide's ejection port (thus providing the "lock" in the Browning system), the barrel hood is milled away and a ramp is machined farther back to delay the opening/separation of the barrel and slide unit. To me, this makes the 380 Glocks delayed blowback, rather than simply blowback.

RLZIII 07-25-2012 18:59

Very interested. Thanks for the information! Hopefully I'll be able to see one in person at some point.

NCtrooper 08-19-2012 04:37

Is there anyway to buy a 25 or 28 in the us? like second hand? thanks

MakeMineA10mm 08-19-2012 07:01

NC - They're pretty hard to come by. I've got one of three sets imported at the same time, and I know there's been a couple police departments who have ordered them, and then "sold/gave" them to their officers. I doubt there's more than a hundred or two in the US. I've never seen one come up for sale, like on Gunbroker or anything...

PattonT 08-19-2012 21:32

Makeminea10mm, I have a really odd question. Will a factory 26 barrel drop in it?

ca survivor 08-20-2012 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by denn1911 (Post 19087143)
My guess is that this would be a very soft shooter. Too bad it can't be an option for those that want it.

actually is a blow back system so it may not be softer shooter that the 26 or 19.

NCtrooper 08-28-2012 03:51

Thanks makeminea10mm, I love my 10 mm glocks too!

MakeMineA10mm 08-28-2012 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by PattonT (Post 19326492)
Makeminea10mm, I have a really odd question. Will a factory 26 barrel drop in it?

Yes, it will fit, but you can't shoot it that way. Both the hood of the slide and the forward top edge of the chamber area of the barrel have been modified.

Now, you CAN put a complete G28 top end on a complete G26 frame, which is likely what you're looking at in my photo above... :whistling:

PattonT 08-28-2012 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMineA10mm (Post 19359073)
Yes, it will fit, but you can't shoot it that way. Both the hood of the slide and the forward top edge of the chamber area of the barrel have been modified.
:

I see what your saying.

Tiro Fijo 09-14-2012 04:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMineA10mm (Post 19232536)
...It's a gimmick or collector's piece as far as I'm concerned. It is exact same size as a G-26 and shoots a less-powerful round. Really an answer in search of a question...


Not really as their main selling point is for countries where civilians cannot own Military caliber handguns. There are a lot of these in South America. Let's face it, a .380 Gock is better than no Glock. :whistling:

MakeMineA10mm 09-24-2012 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo (Post 19417916)
Not really as their main selling point is for countries where civilians cannot own Military caliber handguns. There are a lot of these in South America. Let's face it, a .380 Gock is better than no Glock. :whistling:

You have a point there T.F., but if I were living there, I'd get a G29, and have a REAL caliber! :supergrin: (Joking - I'm sure 10mm isn't exactly easy to get down there...) What about 40 S&W? The G27 is the same size as the G-28, and shoots a much better cartridge for self-defense...

JW1178 09-24-2012 21:08

Just another example of how insane and stupid are gun control laws.

DannyR 09-25-2012 16:12

You only need to travel to Mexico to experience caliber restrictions.:whistling:

DaBurna 09-25-2012 22:40

Once Glock has finished it's expansion state side... Will we see Glock .380's?!! Interesting proposition since they won't need importation since they'd be domestic!!:supergrin:

I mean, those especially women, would benefit from a good relatable .380 right??

PattonT 09-26-2012 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBurna (Post 19457140)
Once Glock has finished it's expansion state side... Will we see Glock .380's?!! Interesting proposition since they won't need importation since they'd be domestic!!:supergrin:

I mean, those especially women, would benefit from a good relatable .380 right??

According to those who have shot 380 Glocks they recoil the same as 9mm versions due to their blowback operation.

DannyR 09-26-2012 07:54

DaBurna,

The G28 is of blow back design and the G26 is of locked breech design. I've shot both and the recoil difference is almost non existent. Since the pistols are identical in size, and 380 ammo is more expensive than 9mm, I would have no use for a G28. Neither would my wife.


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