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.357 for Whitetail deer?
I have a love for Smith and Wesson Revolvers. I purchased a 7" .357 686 plus earlier this year with the intent to hunt White Tail deer in Ohio with it. .357 is the minimum caliber for handgun hunting in Ohio so I know people use it. The salesman at the LGS looked at me like I was an idiot when we started talking about it. He said it was not nearly powerful enough and that the shot would have to be perfect. (for the record, I am a pretty good shot, and I have passed on a few deer with my bow when I wasn't sure if I could make a clean kill).
So this got me worried that maybe I should have gone with a .44 mag, or (as said salesman suggested) the 460. Any input would be great. I would have to skip gun season this year if I find it isn't good enough (I don't mind killing dear, but I dread hurting one and not killing it) due to not budgeting to buy the $1300 460 or $1200 44mag. I look forward to hearing your responses. Thank you, Sr. |
I killed a buck 20 years ago with a Colt Python 357 mag using police issued ammo, I believe it was hydroshok it's what ammo my PD issued at the time, range was about 25 yards he ran 50 yards then dropped
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A 357 will do it, but as common sense implies keep the range short (50 yards max) with heavy bullet weights and no quartering shots... The .44 mag is considerably more effective, but remove the risky variables and a .357 should yield a good harvest..
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I have hunted mule deer with the .357 and I would suggest stickink with an expanding 158 gn. with the longer barrel you will increase the range at which they will expand well and the wieght is a big help in penetration.
Bear in mind that I have put a 150 gn .308 through, in and out, a blacktail at 25 yds, 0 expansion and the energy went into a hillside, but the deer dropped in it's tracks. It was all about placement. Practice untill you can keep every shot on a paper plate at 75 yds from a field position and then try to limit yourself to 50 yds for real. |
357 is plenty. I'd load up with XTP's and get to it.
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Best deer hunting load for a .357 Magnum is probably a 158 gr hard cast semi-wad cutter.
The .357 Magnum is marginal for deer. It will work. But it wouldn't be my primary hunting handgun. You can buy a good Ruger single action in .45 Long Colt or .44 Magnum for $400-500 and cheaper used. |
Thanks everyone for you advice. I'll hunt with it this year and maybe pick up something bigger next year.
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It is not the preferred setup , but it should be doable. It is all about choosing your shot. I have talked to a couple guys who have taken deer with the 357mag. As far as the guys at the LGS, they are trying to sell guns. That being said, I would prefer a .44 or larger hole to start with. |
You can buy 180 gr bullets on the shelf or online, but I'd be curious what the velocity is from a short barrel... You could really treat yourself well and buy a .357 lever gun... You would have ammo commonality and the ability to shoot a heavier bullet and much more velocity across the board regardless of bullet weight...
I haven't been up to date an hip on pistol loads in quite a while, but I think a shoulder rifle .357 is pretty comparable to a hog leg .44 revolver in energy.. |
Sr. Bang Bang
I have no idea where you hunt, maybe on private land. Most of the places I have hunted here in Ohio have been on Public Hunting land. You’re lucky to get a clear 50 yard shot without brush getting in your way. I used to use a Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 Magnum with a 30 mm Red Dot. My dad used an S&W 686 with an 8 3/8 barrel and iron sights. Both handguns performed well. For me, I just preferred a single action for hunting. I think you will be fine with the .357 Magnum, or the Ohio Game Commission would not allow you to use it for hunting. They have to start the standards somewhere. |
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I wouldn't choose .357, but my cousin, when he was in high school, showed up to deer hunt one year with a 4" Colt Python. He killed his deer, but I believe he used 12 rounds. I don't know whether they were really necessary, he is very excitable in both hunting and gunfights. He is known for shooting until nothing is moving or he is out of ammo.
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I can't believe the salesman was pushing you towards a .460.
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I do understand you could fill up a wildlife regulations book from cover to cover in an attempt to pinpoint all possible logistics, but these somewhat newer generation slug slingers are very much rifle like.. Sorry for sidestepping the topic, and good luck with the new wheelgun.. |
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I've taken two wild hogs with a Federal 180 grain hard casts from a 4" barrel.
Deer don't have the armor plate or hide like hogs do. |
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I am about convinced that the wildlife departments in the different states are issued dartboards with possibilites on them. A blindfold toss of a hand full of darts and "Viola" the game regs for that State. |
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This is Ohio’s Department of Natural Resources website pertaining Hunting equipment. http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Default.a...bid=20829#deer |
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Corbon had 357mag 180 JSP ammo that did wonders on hogs. So a 6" bbl 357magnum should be more than enough for VT-WT deers. You can find numerous of loaders that have this ammo or similar available
corbon double-tap buffalobore federal |
I've shot several deer with a 4 5/8" Ruger Blackhawk .357 loaded with 158 grain JHPs over 296. Good shot placement makes 'em just as dead as the ones I shot with my .308
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Get a glock 10mm model 20 sf and load it with underwood ammo in the 180-200 grain bullet loading and have at it! I have shot deer with a 45 1911 at 50 yards and it only took one well placed shot. A 357 is a bit more powerful and should be fine if that's what you want to roll with I would load it with a mid to heavy weight bullet and make sure its accurate.
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I would use a 158 grain JSP or 158 grain Gold Dot in the 357. Double Tap has a very good loading running 158 grain Gold Dot. The 180 grain CorBon bonded JSP is another good suggestion.
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