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plouffedaddy 10-06-2012 07:47

Bushnell TRS & Ultimak Rail Combo Review
 
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For those out there who have trouble using the stock AK sights or want a red dot optic for quicker target acquisition but don't want to pay $600 for an Aimpoint T1 this set up may be what you're looking for. I've had this set up on several of my AKs and never had an issue at all with it to report.

Pros:
-Cost. The entire set-up can be had for around $170 shipped if you pay attention to the sales
-The rail is made out of T6 aluminum and the clamps are 4140 steel
-Installation is very simple and with polymer AK handguards no modification is necessary to the lower handguard. If you're using wood handguards, the lower may need some fitting
-The rail as plenty of room to mount a light should you have the desire to do so
-Maintains zero
-I haven't seen any change in accuracy with the Ultimak as I have while using the Midwest Industries rail system (but, there's pros and cons to both... and I like both)
-The TRS25 has a 3MOA dot which is about all the accuracy most shooters will get out of their AKs anyway
-The light emitter on the TRS allows for a lower 1/3 co-witness so even if your optic batter died an an inopportune time you still have use of the irons
-I have seen no evidence at all of heat damage. I don't have the happy switch on any of my AKs but I've also never thought to shoot slowly due to heat.

Cons:
-With all forward AK rail mount options, it does cause the rifle to be slightly front heavy
-The tube gets hot and you may need to watch your grip during rapid fire (see the video for clarification on this...)
-If you're comparing it to an Aimpoint, the dot isn't as clear but I don't expect it to be at this price point either

Here's a video review with a demonstration of some shooting from CQB distances, 60m, and a discussion of the pros and cons of the system:


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Steve in PA 10-06-2012 11:18

Nice set up, nice review. Pretty much what I plan on doing to my WASR, eventually. Aging eyes with the normal AK sights do not go together well. I did add a Mojo peep rear sight which helps a lot, but a red dot is in the works.

plouffedaddy 10-07-2012 06:38

I just had PRK eye surgery last year and have awesome vision now but the red dots still help in get my sights on target quicker. I shoot just fine with irons; but with the red dot the first shot usually breaks a little quicker.

Hamrhed 10-07-2012 12:33

As an older shooter, no question the RDS helps a lot... and this setup that Plouffedaddy has reviewed is solid: I've got a lot of rounds through mine and everything works like a champ!

fuzzy03cls 10-08-2012 08:25

Quote:

-The TRS25 has a 3MOA dot which is about all the accuracy most shooters will get out of their AKs anyway
I think that's my problem with the Bushnell. I can't get a consistent zero. I have an eotech on my other AK & it shoots a big hole at 50 yards from the bench. The Bushnell is all over the place. I'm not liking the Bushnell at all.

Hamrhed 10-08-2012 09:19

Sounds like a rifle issue: if the dot is at the top of your irons (as mine stays), how would the rds be to blame?

HWI 10-08-2012 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy03cls (Post 19496600)
I think that's my problem with the Bushnell. I can't get a consistent zero. I have an eotech on my other AK & it shoots a big hole at 50 yards from the bench. The Bushnell is all over the place. I'm not liking the Bushnell at all.

You either got a bad TRS-25 or there is an issue with your rifle.
How is the TRS-25 mounted to the rifle?


I can shoot equal groupings with the TRS-25 as I can with my Aimpoint H-1.

fuzzy03cls 10-08-2012 12:24

Irons zeroed fine with the same ammo. Side mount rail & Parabellum Armament rail system.

plouffedaddy 10-08-2012 12:37

Does your dot move in relation to your irons?

fuzzy03cls 10-08-2012 13:27

I think so. It was towards the left & now it's more centered. I hit paper, just isn't the big hole I get with the eotech.

mjkeat 10-08-2012 16:59

The EoTech has a 1 MOA dot while the Bushnell has a 3 MOA dot. That could have something to do w/ it.

plouffedaddy 10-08-2012 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy03cls (Post 19497309)
I think so. It was towards the left & now it's more centered. I hit paper, just isn't the big hole I get with the eotech.

I've had to use Bushnell's CS before and it was a very good experience. If your dot is moving like this it's defective. I'd send it in for a replacement.


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