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ERASER 10-07-2012 10:11

Hacker cracks 4 million hotel locks with 'James Bond Dry Erase Marker'
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-Marker.html

tarpleyg 10-07-2012 10:28

My first inclination is to say, "Who cares." I always lock the bolt and the safety bar so no one is getting in while I'm in there anyway. The only concern I would have is with someone coming in while I was away and stealing stuff or staying in the room until I return.

Detectorist 10-07-2012 11:07

That's amazing. On the other hand, I can open about 90% of private residence fron doors in about 5 seconds without anyone realizing it's been done.

BEER 10-07-2012 12:15

locks are much like gun laws, they're only gonna work on honest people.

LSUAdman 10-08-2012 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEER (Post 19494065)
locks are much like gun laws, they're only gonna work on honest people.


Quoted for truth.

I dont think most people understand how easy it is to get into a home/hotel/locked area, and when they find out it scares them.

I remember when I was in college, my wife had locked the door, accidentally, on our apartment when we went to water the flowers. I was ready to smash a window when she walks up to two guys in the parking lot and asks them if we can use their phone. She explains what happened, and one of the guys says "Oh, I can fix that."

He walks up to the door, pulls out a jim, pops the door open, smiles and walks away.

My mouth was just agape - not to how quick or easily that he did it, but that my wife just happened to find someone in our parking area what had a jim, and the knowledge of how to pop a door lock... :faint:

GWSHARK 10-08-2012 13:20

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Originally Posted by tarpleyg (Post 19493755)
My first inclination is to say, "Who cares." I always lock the bolt and the safety bar so no one is getting in while I'm in there anyway. The only concern I would have is with someone coming in while I was away and stealing stuff or staying in the room until I return.


Thats a HUGE concern though...

M&P15T 10-08-2012 14:34

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Originally Posted by Detectorist (Post 19493866)
That's amazing. On the other hand, I can open about 90% of private residence fron doors in about 5 seconds without anyone realizing it's been done.

Excuse me...but, :rofl::rofl::rofl:

series1811 10-08-2012 14:41

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Originally Posted by Detectorist (Post 19493866)
That's amazing. On the other hand, I can open about 90% of private residence fron doors in about 5 seconds without anyone realizing it's been done.

I used to pick locks for fun and even did it a few times on the job instead of busting doors down wihen we knew nobody was home.

It is easier than most people ever realize.

kiole 10-08-2012 15:14

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Originally Posted by M&P15T (Post 19497543)
Excuse me...but, :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Search google for bump keys it's very easy to open most door locks without leaving any evidence.

Detectorist 10-08-2012 15:48

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Originally Posted by kylenewman (Post 19497708)
Search google for bump keys it's very easy to open most door locks without leaving any evidence.

Shhhh..... my secret is out.

AK_Stick 10-08-2012 15:52

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Originally Posted by M&P15T (Post 19497543)
Excuse me...but, :rofl::rofl::rofl:



If you don't have a bump-proof lock, he's likely to have a good shot at it.


Even if you do have good locks, there are still other ways in.

AK_Stick 10-08-2012 15:53

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Originally Posted by series1811 (Post 19497569)
I used to pick locks for fun and even did it a few times on the job instead of busting doors down wihen we knew nobody was home.

It is easier than most people ever realize.



I have the exact opposite issue.


My door locks are not pickable, so if i ever forget my key, or lose it, or lock it inside the house, I'm in for an expensive day.

Snaps 10-08-2012 16:13

this kind of thing fascinates me.

janice6 10-08-2012 16:45

I think it's funny how my neighbors work to lock and secure a patio door that is full glass.

If someone wants in they will get in.

frizz 10-08-2012 16:50

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Originally Posted by AK_Stick (Post 19497831)
I have the exact opposite issue.


My door locks are not pickable, so if i ever forget my key, or lose it, or lock it inside the house, I'm in for an expensive day.

No such thing as a 100% secure lock.

Gallium 10-08-2012 16:58

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Originally Posted by frizz (Post 19498012)
No such thing as a 100% secure lock.


But he didn't say that.

Every single thing that is created to provide selective access can be breached by someone who is not authorized to be there.

The only things that cannot be breached are those things where there is absolutely NO ACCESS to all parties.

davew83 10-08-2012 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK_Stick (Post 19497831)
I have the exact opposite issue.


My door locks are not pickable, so if i ever forget my key, or lose it, or lock it inside the house, I'm in for an expensive day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frizz (Post 19498012)
No such thing as a 100% secure lock.

http://www.catskillhouse.us/blog/wp-...cating_saw.jpg

http://www.talisman.co.za/uploads/im...ammer_copy.jpg

Bet I can get in.


:supergrin:

4Rules 10-08-2012 19:22

Deviant Ollam will help open your eyes (if you are willing to see reality).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK0MfE7o4HU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMXj84x5Ovg

AK_Stick 10-08-2012 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by frizz (Post 19498012)
No such thing as a 100% secure lock.



Its not 100% secure.


And I suppose its not 100% unpickable. If you had a bump key with the right initial grinds, on enough of the flats, you could trigger my locks.


However, that said, it would take so long, and be so impracticable to carry enough "bump key" blanks to find the right combination to turn my cylinders.


You'd have to be a pro, and not some street hood who's watched youtube, but a actual certified locksmith to pick my locks.


They're ridiculously expensive for a reason.



That said, there are still lots of ways in, bumping my locks, just isn't one of them.

RenoF250 10-08-2012 22:10

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Originally Posted by janice6 (Post 19497995)
I think it's funny how my neighbors work to lock and secure a patio door that is full glass.

If someone wants in they will get in.

Have you ever tried to break one of those? They are tough. I took a bunch out of my house and tried to break them. It is not that easy.

Kingarthurhk 10-08-2012 22:15

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Originally Posted by RenoF250 (Post 19499244)
Have you ever tried to break one of those? They are tough. I took a bunch out of my house and tried to break them. It is not that easy.

Especially if you cover them with burglar resistant film. Either way, I am not a patio door fan.

AK_Stick 10-08-2012 22:50

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Originally Posted by davew83 (Post 19498041)



Oh, you could get in, hell it would be markedly easier to just throw something through the livingroom window 2 feet to the left of the door, or just cut through the wall.

However, those both attract attention, my intention was simply to make the most common ways in, not so easy.

Deanster 10-08-2012 23:24

I think this is a big deal. Hotel rooms weren't very secure before, but the notion that anyone with a little bit of easily concealed equipment can open a door without attracting attention in 1 second is... Disturbing.

The huge bummer is that the vulnerability isn't fixable without a total hardware swap...

southernshooter 10-09-2012 05:37

patio door
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RenoF250 (Post 19499244)
Have you ever tried to break one of those? They are tough. I took a bunch out of my house and tried to break them. It is not that easy.

Tempered glass is pretty tough. Same as a door glass on a car. Will take a pretty good hit with wood, but with something that has no give, like a hammer it will "explode" Breaks into many small pieces. That is the safety factor of it. (42 yrs in the glass & plastics business)

rednoved 10-09-2012 09:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK_Stick (Post 19497831)
I have the exact opposite issue.


My door locks are not pickable, so if i ever forget my key, or lose it, or lock it inside the house, I'm in for an expensive day.


You could take a spare key. Put it in a sealed container. Then bury it. If that day ever comes you just have to unbury the key. It's a lot safer than leaving a "hide-a-key" somewhere. I doubt any theives are going to dig in random areas for a key. You might want a marker of some kind so you can remember where to dig. :cool:


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