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00Glazz 11-04-2012 13:44

What 1911 is this??
 
Traded a ruger p95 for this 1911 today at a local gunshow! No markings what so ever on it besides the serial number?

http://imageshack.us/a/img203/8030/2...4143531150.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/267/20121104143549247.jpg

It has what appears to be a GI frame? Because it has the lanyard ring on the bottom of the fram by the magwell. But it doesnt have any slide markings or anything. And has hogue grips . Thats it. Any help is appreciated!


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countrygun 11-04-2012 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by cglaspel (Post 19590483)
Traded a ruger p95 for this 1911 today at a local gunshow! No markings what so ever on it besides the serial number?

http://imageshack.us/a/img203/8030/2...4143531150.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/267...4143549247.jpg

It has what appears to be a GI frame? Because it has the lanyard ring on the bottom of the fram by the magwell. But it doesnt have any slide markings or anything. And has hogue grips . Thats it. Any help is appreciated!


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How did any paperwork get done without a brand name?

The picture was of no help.

You traded a Ruger p-95 for it? No brand?

Sounds like a kitchen table Franken11

00Glazz 11-04-2012 15:19

No paperwork required at the gun show. Yep traded a decently used P95 blued for it. The guy said it was a rock arsenal. Which I am guessing he meant Rock Island. Got the pistol, 6 mags, holster and ammo for it, so figured I would take a chance on it. FWIW I shot it a little bit ago and it works flawlessly lol...

countrygun 11-04-2012 15:31

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Originally Posted by cglaspel (Post 19590796)
No paperwork required at the gun show. Yep traded a decently used P95 blued for it. The guy said it was a rock arsenal. Which I am guessing he meant Rock Island. Got the pistol, 6 mags, holster and ammo for it, so figured I would take a chance on it. FWIW I shot it a little bit ago and it works flawlessly lol...

Hmm I don't keep up with the latest trends so i don't know who is making 1911s without putting their names on them but I know that slides are available, most from the Phillipines, that lack markings. But that photo wasn't much to go on.


Of course I have always held, since the first time I built a 1911 from parts decades ago, that it didn't take a ton of money to build a 1911 that would work. I recently helped a young man in my neighborhood do just that.

KennyFSU 11-04-2012 15:37

The full name is Rock Island Arsenal so I assume it's them. They go $3-400 new, yours, not as much.


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F106 Fan 11-04-2012 15:48

The logo on the grip doesn't look like that of Rock Island Arsenal. I couldn't read it but there may be a clue in that grip.

Richard

KennyFSU 11-04-2012 15:48

That's true, but grips can be changed.

I found this article:

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collecting-firearm-collecting/1911-before-the-great-war/3

The gun in the photo has similar markings for it's serial number. It doesn't mentioned the brand but just states the photo is courtesy of Rock Island Auctions.

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00Glazz 11-04-2012 16:17

Hmmm I am guessing it is a franken rock island then. The logo on the grip is hogue. They are aftermarket hogue grips. Its really only going to be used as a range/fun gun anyways. Not going to be carried or anything. So I am not too upset about it. I was just curious on if anyone had any ideas on it.

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KennyFSU 11-04-2012 16:28

It should be a good range gun, let us know how it performs. Although now you have to spend more money on .45 ACP lol.


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faawrenchbndr 11-04-2012 16:33

That is not a Rock Island Armory.
Take the grips off, any markings under there?
Never seen one without maker markings. Most likely a Franken-pistol
from the seventies. I would have kept the Ruger.

faawrenchbndr 11-04-2012 16:39

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Originally Posted by KennyFSU (Post 19590877)
That's true, but grips can be changed.

I found this article:

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collect...he-great-war/3

The gun in the photo has similar markings for it's serial number. It doesn't mentioned the brand but just states the photo is courtesy of Rock Island Auctions.

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The 1911 in the article is a 1911 model. The OP has a 1911A1 model frame.
It is not even close,......Rock Island Auctions is a Auction House
not a firearms manufacturer!

KennyFSU 11-04-2012 16:49

Lol, I was just doing Google image search of 1911s in order to find one that has similar serial number markings as the OP. I stated in my post that the article does not state the make of that particular 1911. No need to yell! Haha.


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00Glazz 11-04-2012 17:12

Under the right side grip there is a stamp that says A.R. sales co
So. Monte CA.

KennyFSU 11-04-2012 17:41

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Originally Posted by cglaspel (Post 19591147)
Under the right side grip there is a stamp that says A.R. sales co
So. Monte CA.

This link may help you: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=107989


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faawrenchbndr 11-04-2012 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyfsu (Post 19591087)
.......... No need to yell! Haha.


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was not yelling!

KennyFSU 11-04-2012 17:55

Lol!

Reminds me of this:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/27389105.jpg


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3rdgen40 11-04-2012 18:00

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Originally Posted by cglaspel (Post 19590483)
No markings what so ever on it besides the serial number.

It's obviously an early model NN made by Guncrafter Industries...:supergrin:

B.Reid 11-04-2012 19:23

Looks like the start of a custom 1911. LOL

Batesmotel 11-04-2012 19:26

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Originally Posted by countrygun (Post 19590758)
How did any paperwork get done without a brand name?

I bought an old, unmarked Mauser style rifle. They listed it as Unidentified.

countrygun 11-04-2012 19:58

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Originally Posted by Batesmotel (Post 19591637)
I bought an old, unmarked Mauser style rifle. They listed it as Unidentified.

I realize that category exists but I have a hard time thinking about trading a Ruger off on a 1911 that fits in that category, unless I knew a lot about 1911s and REALLY wanted one.

I'm glad it turned out well for the OP. I might have gambled and bought it outright as a build base.


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