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WIMPY 11-07-2012 13:11

Moochers and Leachers are the winners
 
They have found out they can vote themselves a government check by electing Democrats. It's going to be hard to overcome that incentive. Coupled with a poorly run Republican effort the Dems will be in control for a while.:crying:

Calico Jack 11-07-2012 13:14

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Originally Posted by WIMPY (Post 19603945)
They have found out they can vote themselves a government check by electing Democrats. It's going to be hard to overcome that incentive. Coupled with a poorly run Republican effort the Dems will be in control for a while.:crying:

Don't worry, eventually they will run out of other people's money and it will all come to a grinding halt.

JBnTX 11-07-2012 13:18

Don't forget the homos and the potheads.
They both won big too.

Batesmotel 11-07-2012 13:27

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Originally Posted by WIMPY (Post 19603945)
They have found out they can vote themselves a government check by electing Democrats. It's going to be hard to overcome that incentive. Coupled with a poorly run Republican effort the Dems will be in control for a while.:crying:

Ben Franklin said this would mark the end of the country.

Fox 11-07-2012 13:31

Urban voters came out en masse on election day to cash in our freedoms for a welfare check.

cowboywannabe 11-07-2012 13:54

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Originally Posted by PurplePirate (Post 19603955)
Don't worry, eventually they will run out of other people's money and it will all come to a grinding halt.

didnt happen in the UK....about as many of the "dole" as there are working....the gubmint just raises taxes on the workers and eliminates deductions.

Calico Jack 11-07-2012 14:00

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Originally Posted by cowboywannabe (Post 19604155)
didnt happen in the UK....about as many of the "dole" as there are working....the gubmint just raises taxes on the workers and eliminates deductions.

Yes, but eventually those pushing the wagon will stop and hop on.

hamster 11-07-2012 14:06

Agreed. My jackass neighbor decides to have 6 kids he can't afford and not only do I have to pay for their schooling, but he also has to pay less in taxes because of his irresponsibility.

Middle-class welfare is orders of magnitude more prevalent and rampant than the EBT card crap that goes on as well.

Fear Night 11-07-2012 14:15

The 47% is about to become the 52+%

Restless28 11-07-2012 14:15

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."

Benjamin Franklin

Gun Line 11-07-2012 14:18

47%Won

Rabbi 11-07-2012 14:25

Hey, there is an idea, lets start segregating and then labeling people in a negative way...and wonder why the party that doesnt do that won...

STOP, Fng STOP doing that! THAT IS THE PROBLEM, everything else is detail.

Gunhaver 11-07-2012 14:28

Keep telling yourselves that it's all about people voting for their government checks instead of the country shifting more away from your version of a nanny state and more towards their version of a nanny state. All you guys ever have to say is no. You've become the prohibition party and the hypocrite party.

More and more irrelevant every day. :yawn:

guns54 11-07-2012 14:30

Know ones a real winner in the long run.

sbhaven 11-07-2012 14:35

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Originally Posted by WIMPY (Post 19603945)
They have found out they can vote themselves a government check by electing Democrats. It's going to be hard to overcome that incentive. Coupled with a poorly run Republican effort the Dems will be in control for a while.:crying:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

It is very possible what we witnessed yesterday was the first austerity protest on this side of the pond.

JW1178 11-07-2012 14:40

They think they have won. Honestly, Obama hasn't done anything for them besides make a lot of promises. Oh, they got a free phone.... I know someone who got one of those phones. If you think Metro PCS, Boost, or Stright Talk is bad. It's a very base phone with not many minutes, and if you want extra minutes, you pay a lot. Talk about getting thrown a bone. lol

BigMoneyGrip 11-07-2012 14:46

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Originally Posted by sbhaven (Post 19604360)
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

It is very possible what we witnessed yesterday was the first austerity protest on this side of the pond.



1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage'

Spiffums 11-07-2012 14:54

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Originally Posted by PurplePirate (Post 19604186)
Yes, but eventually those pushing the wagon will stop and hop on.

I'm thinking about hopping on! I'd have more money for ammo and practice if .gov was buying my food!

bmoore 11-07-2012 15:06

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Originally Posted by JBnTX (Post 19603974)
Don't forget the homos and the potheads.
They both won big too.

The "homos" as you call them have been winning for a long time. As a whole the gay community is some of the most productive and successful people in this country. They own business's, properties, homes, pay taxes and are doing quite well.

RichJ 11-07-2012 15:14

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Originally Posted by JW1178 (Post 19604392)
They think they have won. Honestly, Obama hasn't done anything for them besides make a lot of promises. Oh, they got a free phone.... I know someone who got one of those phones. If you think Metro PCS, Boost, or Stright Talk is bad. It's a very base phone with not many minutes, and if you want extra minutes, you pay a lot. Talk about getting thrown a bone. lol

Just for the record...

I have Straight Talk. I have an Android phone that uses AT&T towers with unlimited data for $50 a month (flat rate).

Beat that!

hammerkill 11-07-2012 15:34

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Originally Posted by Rabbi (Post 19604323)
Hey, there is an idea, lets start segregating and then labeling people in a negative way...and wonder why the party that doesnt do that won...

STOP, Fng STOP doing that! THAT IS THE PROBLEM, everything else is detail.


Is that so Rebbe?

http://wvgazette.com/Opinion/OpEdCom...s/201211020175

Rabbi 11-07-2012 15:43

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Originally Posted by hammerkill (Post 19604611)

I dont see how that article does ANYTHING but agree with what I said. The right want to put the left into a lot of boxes and then despise those boxes.

One person on the left calling the right a bunch of names doesnt change that and it certainly doesnt prove, as an overwhelming trend that "see both sides do it..."

Every side is guilty of most every sin but we will continue to fail if we cant recognize which side is known for which sins.

Stop defending things and start figuring things out. The left includes the right excludes. That is a damned well understood truth. Finding exceptions to that wont get your the results you want, even if it gives you a talking point.

hammerkill 11-07-2012 15:56

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Originally Posted by Rabbi (Post 19604636)
I dont see how that article does ANYTHING but agree with what I said. The right want to put the left into a lot of boxes and then despise those boxes.

One person on the left calling the right a bunch of names doesnt change that and it certainly doesnt prove, as an overwhelming trend that "see both sides do it..."

Every side is guilty of most every sin but we will continue to fail if we cant recognize which side is known for which sins.

Stop defending things and start figuring things out. The left includes the right excludes. That is a damned well understood truth. Finding exceptions to that wont get your the results you want, even if it gives you a talking point.


In complete and total deference to you Rebbe, The left seem a whole lot more vitriolic. I am not sure what you are trying to say so lets call it a draw. I will be reticent on this subject. פריינט?

NH Trucker 11-07-2012 16:00

"Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful good society' which shall now be Rome, interpreted to mean 'more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious.'"

– Marcus Tullius Cicero

ICARRY2 11-07-2012 16:14

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Originally Posted by PurplePirate (Post 19604186)
Yes, but eventually those pushing the wagon will stop and hop on.

Yep. It's going to sooner rather than later too.


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