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Rinspeed 11-17-2012 07:39

Colt Marine CQB Pistol- Available to Civilians
 
These are cool pistols but I'm not sure they are worth $2,000, the rail kind of ruins it for me as well.







glock2740 11-17-2012 08:07

Not a $2000 pistol IMO.

faawrenchbndr 11-17-2012 08:11

Lks like a painted Rail Gun to me,.........no thanks!

MD357 11-17-2012 08:55

I like it, needs checkering but outside of that it looks great. Where are we getting the price info for these? are they already listed?

banger 11-17-2012 09:19

I'll be willing to bet that despite the 2K price...

They sell more units to civilians than the 4,000 slated to equip the Marines.

matt_lowry123 11-17-2012 10:17

No thanks!!!

FLIPPER 348 11-17-2012 10:25

I'd happily buy one if I had 2K to spare.

glock2740 11-17-2012 10:39

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Originally Posted by banger (Post 19640897)
I'll be willing to bet that despite the 2K price...

They sell more units to civilians than the 4,000 slated to equip the Marines.

I wouldn't bet too much if I was you.

MD357 11-17-2012 10:44

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Originally Posted by glock2740 (Post 19641079)
I wouldn't bet too much if I was you.

I would..... aside from any perceived collector value, it's a well built practical 1911 that will supposedly be built in their custom shop.

TK-421 11-17-2012 11:04

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Originally Posted by MD357 (Post 19641091)
I would..... aside from any perceived collector value, it's a well built practical 1911 that will supposedly be built in their custom shop.

Can't you get either the equivalent or even better for a lesser price?

em2b96p 11-17-2012 11:31

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Originally Posted by TK-421 (Post 19641145)
Can't you get either the equivalent or even better for a lesser price?

Paint any railed 1911 tan and the buy the same grips. It wont say colt...

TK-421 11-17-2012 11:36

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Originally Posted by em2b96p (Post 19641215)
Paint any railed 1911 tan and the buy the same grips. It wont say colt...

Fill in the logo/lettering with some sort of compound that will appear to be metal, then use a dremel to grind "Colt" into the slide, paint it over, might be a bit hard to tell the difference then.

Jeff82 11-17-2012 11:48

The pistols are crap. Let me find you a link...

Here it is:
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=72301&page=10 Look at the pics in post #197.

MD357 11-17-2012 11:50

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Originally Posted by TK-421 (Post 19641145)
Can't you get either the equivalent or even better for a lesser price?

Probably, but I won't be able to tell you till I handle one or see a price. Dan Wesson will probably be stiff competition I'm sure.

I never underestimate the draw of the pony. Warranted or not, they sell.

Rinspeed 11-17-2012 11:52

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Originally Posted by Jeff82 (Post 19641255)
The pistols are crap. Let me find you a link...





http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29...eed/Colt-3.jpg





http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29...eed/Colt-2.jpg




http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29...eed/Colt-1.jpg

MD357 11-17-2012 12:19

I wouldn't be so quick to call them crap, they failed under "phase 2" of testing.
It would be interesting to know what "phase 2" entailed. Rumor is no lube and no spring change during test? I have a tough time believing that a majority of 1911 frame and slides would only last 12K rounds much less a colt. I've seen them go way past 50Ks personally. Heck, I'm probably approaching 10K on my LWT Colt frame built custom.

smokin762 11-17-2012 12:28

In my opinion its way overpriced. But I do like it. :supergrin:

glock2740 11-17-2012 12:33

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Originally Posted by MD357 (Post 19641091)
I would..... aside from any perceived collector value, it's a well built practical 1911 that will supposedly be built in their custom shop.

Last I heard, there were only a few people who worked in Colt's Custom Shop, so if that's true, there's a gonna be a LOOONG wait, before they get the first 4000 out the door. Personally, I don't see what warrants this gun to spend ANY time in the CS. Is that where they paint them tan and install the grips? :dunno:I haven't even handled, much less shot one of these, but I'd be willing to bet that they won't be able to carry a DW Specialists's jock. And the Specialist isn't a "custom shop" gun. If someone wants to drop 2K on one of these, for the sake of owning a "military issued" 1911 that also happens to have the word Colt on the side of it, then knock yourself out and place an order. To each his own. But you couldn't sell me one for 1K. There's not a DAMN thing about them that I like. Not a rail fan. Not an ambi fan. Not a smooth front strap fan. And I'm not a desert tan paint job fan either. I am though, very glad to see the military ordering a 1911, of any kind, but sadly, it is not going to replace the M9 as the standard issue sidearm. And no, I am not a Beretta or an M9 fan. As a matter of fact, I own 5 Colt's.

JBnTX 11-17-2012 12:57

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Originally Posted by MD357 (Post 19641330)
I wouldn't be so quick to call them crap, they failed under "phase 2" of testing.
It would be interesting to know what "phase 2" entailed. Rumor is no lube and no spring change during test? I have a tough time believing that a majority of 1911 frame and slides would only last 12K rounds much less a colt. I've seen them go way past 50Ks personally. Heck, I'm probably approaching 10K on my LWT Colt frame built custom.


Older Colt pistols are good to go, but today's pistols have serious quality control issues.

Once upon a time Colt produced a quality product.
Those days are far behind us now.

It's a shame that the original producer of 1911 pistols has sunk so low.

TK-421 11-17-2012 13:38

Personally, the only colt 1911 I'm interested in owning is one from WWII. Now those are sexy, especially with their history and everything they went through during the war.

MD357 11-17-2012 15:00

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Originally Posted by JBnTX (Post 19641417)
Older Colt pistols are good to go, but today's pistols have serious quality control issues.

Once upon a time Colt produced a quality product.
Those days are far behind us now.

It's a shame that the original producer of 1911 pistols has sunk so low.

You're hittin some good pipe there my friend. Colt 1911s are much better than they've ever been. I'm not the only person to believe this, many well known smiths will agree. They had problems in the 80s but since, they're some of the better production 1911s out there.

MD357 11-17-2012 15:25

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Last I heard, there were only a few people who worked in Colt's Custom Shop, so if that's true, there's a gonna be a LOOONG wait, before they get the first 4000 out the door. Personally, I don't see what warrants this gun to spend ANY time in the CS. Is that where they paint them tan and install the grips?
Really? Who'd you "hear" that from? What would you know/could you know by looking at a picture? Please be specific.

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I haven't even handled, much less shot one of these, but I'd be willing to bet that they won't be able to carry a DW Specialists's jock
Let's stop at the first part shall we? The point was that it will sell, sorry..... it has a pony on it and it looks to be a well built gun. The regular railed colts are great little guns so I imagine these will be too but we'll see.

Quote:

And the Specialist isn't a "custom shop" gun. If someone wants to drop 2K on one of these, for the sake of owning a "military issued" 1911 that also happens to have the word Colt on the side of it, then knock yourself out and place an order. To each his own. But you couldn't sell me one for 1K. There's not a DAMN thing about them that I like. Not a rail fan. Not an ambi fan. Not a smooth front strap fan. And I'm not a desert tan paint job fan either.
That's great. You're not a fan, we get it. Ambi's, Rails, and Cerakote is all about preference but obviously very functional to those that would actually shoot it. Either way if people can drop $1500+ on a Mimber.... I can see these moving.

banger 11-17-2012 16:18

Look, concerning price versus value.

To the "arm chair warrior", he will pay whatever it cost, simply to point to his treasured pistol and tell his friend that that's the same pistol that the Marines carry.

That means it kills your enemies "deader".

Consider, the 1873 Colt Single Action Army has been obsolete for nearly a century....Yet...the Colt Custom shop still cranks them out for over $1500.00 a pop.

AND....insult to injury, they are not even authentic to the originals. Yet... people continue to buy them.

As to the lack of quality control....It does not matter!

Most will never even be fired.

Returning to my Peace Maker example, until the growth of "Cowboy action shooting" most of the modern 1873's were never fired or even cocked.

Look no further than a Gun Show in your area.

With little trouble you will almost certainly find a N.I.B. third generation pistol still with it's tags and zip tie on the hammer.

Now try to find one that is used, but good condition...

I'll bet you can't find one.

Funny story about "Cowboy" shooters...many of those guy's bought the Colts form collectors who owned them for years, only to find out that they were defective and needed to be returned to Colt to have them corrected.

Timing issues, aiming issues, ever firing issues.

Colt made a "bundle" cranking those puppies out...Knowing that they would likely never be fired.

In closing...Colt Firearms Mfg. Co. is NOT your friend.

They are nearly Bankrupt for a reason.

Paul7 11-17-2012 16:23

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Originally Posted by MD357 (Post 19641261)
Probably, but I won't be able to tell you till I handle one or see a price. Dan Wesson will probably be stiff competition I'm sure.

My Dan Wesson Valor makes Colt look like a piece of junk. I can't stand the cratered lettering.

MD357 11-17-2012 16:47

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Originally Posted by Paul7 (Post 19641991)
My Dan Wesson Valor makes Colt look like a piece of junk. I can't stand the cratered lettering.

Yep, comparing a $1500-1700 Valor to a stock Colt shows a significant difference for sure.


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