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maxsnafu 11-19-2012 08:59

The GOP’s Other Problem
 
Marriage Gap Huge In 2012—And Marriage Is Starting To Disappear

http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-go...iage-declining

"Well, you’re not supposed to say this in public, but the GOP traditionally gets most of its votes from people who more or less have their acts together, while the Democrats appeal most strongly to the various resentful fringes of society."

holesinpaper 11-19-2012 09:48

Marriage is declining in part due to men wising up.

Family court and divorce is a stacked deck. No guy in his right mind would risk his assets like that.

SunsetMan 11-19-2012 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by holesinpaper (Post 19647728)
Marriage is declining in part due to men wising up.

Family court and divorce is a stacked deck. No guy in his right mind would risk his assets like that.

Life was so much simpler when I didn't have assets.

Oh, and I agree.

maxsnafu 11-19-2012 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by holesinpaper (Post 19647728)
Marriage is declining in part due to men wising up.

Family court and divorce is a stacked deck. No guy in his right mind would risk his assets like that.

You don't know the half of it: http://weddedabyss.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/marriage20/

G29Reload 11-19-2012 11:40

plus marriage is mocked and derided and watered down. Gays are supposed to get it, next week it will be german shepherds and houseplants. No? What are you racist? Who are you to say what marriage is you racist bigot homophobe plantophobe animal hater...

The Machinist 11-19-2012 17:20

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Originally Posted by holesinpaper (Post 19647728)
Marriage is declining in part due to men wising up.

Family court and divorce is a stacked deck. No guy in his right mind would risk his assets like that.

Bingo. Get the government out of marriage, and the institution will return to its former glory. Otherwise, screw it.

Guss 11-19-2012 17:45

High divorce states vote Republican:
http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...stion-1934925/

Cavalry Doc 11-19-2012 18:06

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Originally Posted by Guss (Post 19649275)
High divorce states vote Republican:
http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...stion-1934925/

Over 42% of eligible voters DIDN'T VOTE.


Over 42%, didn't vote. That is the problem.



Get a grip. 42.5% stayed home. Ronald knows why.



hogship 11-19-2012 18:45

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Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc (Post 19649342)
Over 42% of eligible voters DIDN'T VOTE.


Over 42%, didn't vote. That is the problem.



Get a grip. 42.5% stayed home. Ronald knows why.


Bold Colors - No Pale Pastels - YouTube

Oh man 'o' man.......that was sooooo appropriate to our times. Reagan must have had a crystal ball!

I hope we can manage to return to traditional values, where everything isn't judged by "shades of grey", but morality, based on beliefs that we, as a people, truly believe in.

We have strayed......but, that doesn't mean we can't find a way to return to the foundations of integrity.....and, honor.

ooc

aspartz 11-19-2012 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc (Post 19649342)
Over 42% of eligible voters DIDN'T VOTE.


Over 42%, didn't vote. That is the problem.



Get a grip. 42.5% stayed home. Ronald knows why.


Bold Colors - No Pale Pastels - YouTube

The problem is, the GOP is almost indistinguishable from the democrats on many issues involving freedom. Both want to tax me to do what they consider good things. Both want to control different aspects of my private life.

ARS

Ruble Noon 11-19-2012 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc (Post 19649342)
Over 42% of eligible voters DIDN'T VOTE.


Over 42%, didn't vote. That is the problem.



Get a grip. 42.5% stayed home. Ronald knows why.


Bold Colors - No Pale Pastels - YouTube

Does the GOP know why people stayed home?

Guss 11-20-2012 01:07

We have people staying home because of the Electoral College system. If it's obvious which way your state is going to go, there's no need to vote.

FFR Spyder GT 11-20-2012 05:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by holesinpaper (Post 19647728)
Marriage is declining in part due to men wising up.

Family court and divorce is a stacked deck. No guy in his right mind would risk his assets like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunsetMan (Post 19647746)
Life was so much simpler when I didn't have assets.

Oh, and I agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by G29Reload (Post 19648051)
plus marriage is mocked and derided and watered down. Gays are supposed to get it, next week it will be german shepherds and houseplants. No? What are you racist? Who are you to say what marriage is you racist bigot homophobe plantophobe animal hater...

Gee, and people wonder why I think that some of the GTPI crowd are +40yo SWMs that still live with their Moms. :faint:

Spyder

railfancwb 11-20-2012 07:00

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Originally Posted by Guss (Post 19650497)
We have people staying home because of the Electoral College system. If it's obvious which way your state is going to go, there's no need to vote.

Unfortunately that thought process often keeps folks from voting in state and local elections where their vote could make a difference.


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series1811 11-20-2012 07:12

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Originally Posted by Guss (Post 19649275)
High divorce states vote Republican:
http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...stion-1934925/

Most of the Democrats I deal with, have about a dozen kids on average, and have never been married a day in their lives.

So, they are a little fuzzy on the whole concept of divorce.

The Machinist 11-20-2012 10:09

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Originally Posted by FFR Spyder GT (Post 19650692)
Gee, and people wonder why I think that some of the GTPI crowd are +40yo SWMs that still live with their Moms. :faint:

Spyder

We don't wonder. We know. It's a classic case of projecting your own miserable existence onto all the successful people around you.

JFrame 11-20-2012 10:45

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Originally Posted by The Machinist (Post 19651368)
We don't wonder. We know. It's a classic case of projecting your own miserable existence onto all the successful people around you.


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


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FFR Spyder GT 11-20-2012 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Machinist (Post 19651368)
We don't wonder. We know. It's a classic case of projecting your own miserable existence onto all the successful people around you.

If being a +40yo SWM that lives with his Mom, has a "Command Post" in the basement and working part-time at Papa John's is successful, well........

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Spyder

P.S. don't forget, this same bunch thought Romney would win by a landslide. :faint:

pugman 11-20-2012 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guss (Post 19650497)
We have people staying home because of the Electoral College system. If it's obvious which way your state is going to go, there's no need to vote.

Proof people in mass are stupid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by holesinpaper (Post 19647728)
Marriage is declining in part due to men wising up.

Family court and divorce is a stacked deck. No guy in his right mind would risk his assets like that.

And we have a Bingo.

A coworker of mine just got married after dating her guy for ten years. A small, in front of a judge ceremony with a total of nine people in attendance. I actually knew it was happening and her parents didn't (long story)

When I asked why he wanted to get married all the reasons were sorry...stupid.

Well in case one of us dies (they co-own a house)....I said get a will?

In case one of needs to pull the plug on the other (my paraphrasing)....I said get a POA?

Ironically, 5-6 reasons later the word love was never uttered.

As a married man of 21 years I can honestly say if my wife got smacked by a bus tomorrow I would never get married again..

Unless Jennifer Aniston is taking applications..:supergrin:

walt cowan 11-21-2012 06:25

thats why maryland pass the gay marriage act. divorce lawyers were starving.

walt cowan 11-21-2012 06:30

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Originally Posted by Ruble Noon (Post 19649802)
Does the GOP know why people stayed home?

naw. why would they care about 3.5 to 6 million voters? johnson only got a million votes, not like that would have hurt barry. besides, as long as the same rino club members stay in power...why would they care?:whistling::supergrin:

maxsnafu 11-21-2012 07:29

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Originally Posted by walt cowan (Post 19654184)
thats why maryland pass the gay marriage act. divorce lawyers were starving.

Yeah, let's see the lawyers & family court judges sort this out:

"Let’s say a lesbian woman is in a gay civil marriage, and she chooses to save time and money, or maybe she just wants to have some fun on the side (many “lesbians” actually do sleep with straight men from time to time), and gets pregnant in the cheap, conventional way — by *****. When pregnant she assures her partner that the child will be theirs, but neglects to tell the man she’s pregnant, or her partner how she got pregnant — let’s say she lied and said she used donor sperm. Later, she files for divorce and initiates a paternity suit against the biological father at the same time in an effort to kill two birds with one stone (deep-six the lesbian lover’s custody chances and get child support at the same time). In the meanwhile, the non-maternal partner had legally adopted the child. But the man never knew he had a kid, and after he’s hit with the paternity suit he gets involved and sues for visitation, arguing that he should have a right to see the child he didn’t know about. If you’re a judge, how do you settle this? Does the non-maternal lesbian pay child support and keep visitation rights, or does the father take on that role? What does the judge do about the adoption? Does the child have the right to a relationship with his biological father, or a non-related lesbian “father?” And keep in mind that this is simply one of many possible permutations of the custody problem that could arise in lesbian civil marriages."

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/11...riage-fallout/

railfancwb 01-01-2013 05:20

Speaking of sperm donors and lesbian couples...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hts-child.html


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hogfish 01-01-2013 05:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxsnafu (Post 19654329)
Yeah, let's see the lawyers & family court judges sort this out:

"Let’s say a lesbian woman is in a gay civil marriage, and she chooses to save time and money, or maybe she just wants to have some fun on the side (many “lesbians” actually do sleep with straight men from time to time), and gets pregnant in the cheap, conventional way — by *****. When pregnant she assures her partner that the child will be theirs, but neglects to tell the man she’s pregnant, or her partner how she got pregnant — let’s say she lied and said she used donor sperm. Later, she files for divorce and initiates a paternity suit against the biological father at the same time in an effort to kill two birds with one stone (deep-six the lesbian lover’s custody chances and get child support at the same time). In the meanwhile, the non-maternal partner had legally adopted the child. But the man never knew he had a kid, and after he’s hit with the paternity suit he gets involved and sues for visitation, arguing that he should have a right to see the child he didn’t know about. If you’re a judge, how do you settle this? Does the non-maternal lesbian pay child support and keep visitation rights, or does the father take on that role? What does the judge do about the adoption? Does the child have the right to a relationship with his biological father, or a non-related lesbian “father?” And keep in mind that this is simply one of many possible permutations of the custody problem that could arise in lesbian civil marriages."

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/11...riage-fallout/

Same way as if the "none maternal lesbian" had been a dude? :dunno:

stevelyn 01-01-2013 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by holesinpaper (Post 19647728)
Marriage is declining in part due to men wising up.

Family court and divorce is a stacked deck. No guy in his right mind would risk his assets like that.

Exactly. Marriage these days is a legal minefield. I learned my lesson from it and will never do it again.


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