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Deputydave 01-02-2013 19:29

Dual Survival Season Three
 
Well I watched the 'Unbraided' episode and the S3 first episode 'Mars on Earth'. Enjoyed them both. Although I like and miss Dave, I think Joe will do just fine with Cody. They're both alpha males and somewhat set in their ways, but the contrast in styles makes it interesting and give you some different perspectives and options to consider.

Yes, it is a show. Yes, situations are somewhat set up for them. But I have learned some things from S1 and S2 and more than that, it helped motivate me to do further research and seek ways to be more self-reliant.

Looking forward to the next episode. :wavey:

9mm +p+ 01-02-2013 21:11

Yep. I love that show, it does seem to be staged more than previous seasons.

TangoFoxtrot 01-04-2013 05:50

Hey thats TV!

wiskeyVI 01-04-2013 06:14

I'm not sure it's going to be as good.
I was wondering why the cast change...

Tom Kanik 01-04-2013 06:54

A possible reason for the cast change might be the background/military service controversy of Dave Canterbury; whether or not he was actually an Army sniper, etc. There seems to be no question about Joe Tepi, who I would consider a bonafide hero.:cool:

Akita 01-04-2013 08:46

Saw an ad where the show seems to be moving towards a more 'bear gryllis way' of complete and utter stupidity stunts; eg, jumping from a cliff into rapids, etc. The antisurvival techniques and all that for the sake of ratings.

imo, Les Stroud (who doesnt do his shows with an army of support staff and medical team AND who doesnt stay in motels between shootings) was the only decent survival show. (i'll give DS good marks for season 1 and 2's illustration of techniques, but it was all scripted and staged).

HalfHazzard 01-04-2013 18:58

I like the Joe and Cody combo. Great show.

Stevekozak 01-05-2013 01:05

I don't think it is going to be good. Looks pretty flakey so far. I don't like the new guy.

Aceman 01-05-2013 05:41

I am personally very much a "Dave" type guy.

Still - a great show all around. Love seeing the different approaches. Haven't seen the new season yet, but looking forward to it!

collim1 01-05-2013 16:53

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Originally Posted by 9mm +p+ (Post 19813174)
Yep. I love that show, it does seem to be staged more than previous seasons.

I noticed it too. When they used ants to "stitch" a tiny scratch on Joe's arm that wasn't even bleeding. Of course they dont call it staging, they call it demonstrating.

I like Cody enough I'll keep watching it. I have read his two books and think he is a funny guy who knows his stuff.

I was really hoping they were gonna keep Cody and have a different guest host each episode for him to work with. I heard they considered that but it didn't wind up happening.

Its a shame about Dave, what a stupid thing to lie about. My wife and I watch the show every week since it came out, and she is a bigger fan of Dave.

ric0123 01-05-2013 17:20

The show seems to be more built around Cody, and how he's awesome.. but there's this OTHER guy that he drags along so he can show how his way is better. The online articles I read aimed that direction. Regardless, I've picked up a lot of things from the show and I enjoy it overall

I am ready for new Survivorman episodes though..

Off topic:

anyone know what knife Joe is using when they were in the desert?

Jake514 01-05-2013 18:27

I enjoyed season 1 & 2 of the DS series, but find the new shows lacking and now overrun by going for sensationalism and viewership.

Pathfinder (Dave Canterberry) has issued a recent public apology for the resume embellishment (who of us hasn't embellished something at one time or another) and has many instructional videos for free on youtube. I enjoy his straight forward methods of instruction and information sharing.

nikerret 01-05-2013 20:37

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Originally Posted by ric0123 (Post 19824853)
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anyone know what knife Joe is using when they were in the desert?

His owndesign made by TOPS.

Look at his website.

Deputydave 01-06-2013 10:55

As I've mentioned, season 1 & 2 of DS was one of the factors that got me motivated to start prepping/learning survival and self-reliance. A lot of good came from season 1 & 2 and I've enjoyed watching them. Much better than what else is offered on TV these days.

I like Dave and enjoyed him on the show. I have also enjoyed his YT videos and learned quite a bit of valuabel info. Embellishment or not, Dave knows what he's doing and is a good instructor. That trumps anything else in my opinion.

Cody in my opinion is simple awesome. I say this from the standpoint of practical self-reliance. The man walks the walk and can teach it. I've enjoyed both his books and gained practical knowledge from each that I've put into use.

Joe, so far so good. I've enjoyed what I've seen so far and hope he is at least as good as Dave was for the show.

And yep, I'm ready for more Survivorman too :cool:

And I enjoyed Man Woman Wild as well and wouldn't mind seeing more of that if they every make more. Again, much better than the crap they shovel on TV these days.

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills....are you serious! :faint:

RMTactical 01-07-2013 00:43

Fun show, I DVR it and watch it with the wife every week. The new guy seems like he will do fine. I like him.

Chuck TX 01-07-2013 16:55

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Originally Posted by Akita (Post 19818830)
Saw an ad where the show seems to be moving towards a more 'bear gryllis way' of complete and utter stupidity stunts; eg, jumping from a cliff into rapids, etc. The antisurvival techniques and all that for the sake of ratings.

imo, Les Stroud (who doesnt do his shows with an army of support staff and medical team AND who doesnt stay in motels between shootings) was the only decent survival show. (i'll give DS good marks for season 1 and 2's illustration of techniques, but it was all scripted and staged).

That's my impression.

The first two seasons had good info while being entertaining without too much "hold my beer and watch this" weaved in. Though there was more of it in season two. So far it looks like the third season is heavier on the latter.

On the entertainment aspect the chemistry just ain't the same either. It's hard to beat a duo of a dirty shoeless hippy and an abrasive redneck for entertainment. The new cat just doesn't fulfill that role. The dynamics are off and even the forced drama is less interesting.

ScaryWoody 01-09-2013 07:49

I like the show and look forward to this season. I miss Dave though. I enjoy the contrast of Joe surviving the situation and Cody living in it.

Deputydave 01-09-2013 08:05

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Originally Posted by ScaryWoody (Post 19839542)
I like the show and look forward to this season. I miss Dave though. I enjoy the contrast of Joe surviving the situation and Cody living in it.

Y'know, that is actually a great way to put it. :cool:

Kloogee 01-09-2013 19:56

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Originally Posted by Akita (Post 19818830)
.......imo, Les Stroud (who doesnt do his shows with an army of support staff and medical team AND who doesnt stay in motels between shootings) was the only decent survival show.....

I love Survivorman. All the rest are just actors.




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Deputydave 01-09-2013 21:11

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Originally Posted by Akita View Post
.......imo, Les Stroud (who doesnt do his shows with an army of support staff and medical team AND who doesnt stay in motels between shootings) was the only decent survival show.....
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Originally Posted by Kloogee (Post 19842468)
I love Survivorman. All the rest are just actors.

I can't quite agree. Cody Lundin (just like Les Stroud) lives off-grid. He isn't only an instructor, he lives this way 24/7. He grows his own food, catches his own water etc. It isn't acting. I know BG has been accused of staying in hotels and such, but the others haven't been accused of this. Dave Canterbury lives what he teaches, Mykal Hawke and Joe Teti are military trained and have lived in these types of harsh environments. So while some of the show is just that, a show. It does feature real professionals in situations that can really happen (and have) and they are demonstrating real skills that are viable.

Think of it this way, with all the other crap on TV these days (and it is a bunch of crap), at least we have something entertaining as well as educational.
:wavey:

HalfHazzard 01-10-2013 06:18

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Originally Posted by Deputydave (Post 19842860)
Think of it this way, with all the other crap on TV these days (and it is a bunch of crap), at least we have something entertaining as well as educational.
:wavey:

Yep!:cool:

Joshhtn 01-10-2013 06:24

I love that show!

Deputydave 01-10-2013 07:08

Well, having heaped praise on the show in the above posts....last night is the first episode I can honestly say I didn't enjoy. The episode was 'On the Menu'. It was a good concept i.e. you're stuck in the middle of nowhere in South Africa, Jeep breaks down, and there are poachers in the area.

Here was my issue(s)...

Cody and Joe are on the move away from potential poachers. Okay, serious threat. Problem is that they continue to stop and argue about how fast/slow to walk. You would think that they could hold a conversation WHILE walking away from a threat instead of just standing there in the middle of nowhere waving their *****'s.

Same thing when deciding where to sleep. Joe wants a thorn shelter on the ground, Cody wants to sleep in a tree. Now I have to sit and watch them argue about it. Seems to me that Cody slept on the ground last time he was in Africa and did so again later in this episode. I would have rather them spent a bit more time on Joe covering their tracks and Cody measuring out the sodium manganese to purify water. Both would/could be more useful knowledge than standing around arguing.

I hope this isn't an indicator of what the rest of the season has in store. A bit of differing view points is entertaining but also provides different options. Dumbass arguements in the middle of nowhere instead of intelligent movement gets tedious.

Still a fan of the show...but they need to chill, gel and get their act together.

Unistat 01-10-2013 07:38

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Originally Posted by Deputydave (Post 19843774)
...Problem is that they continue to stop and argue about how fast/slow to walk...

...Same thing when deciding where to sleep. Joe wants a thorn shelter on the ground, Cody wants to sleep in a tree. Now I have to sit and watch them argue about it...

What you saw as a pointless argument, I saw as a debate over the merits of two seemingly equally attractive options. They both laid out their reasons for the way they wanted to do things and left it to the viewer to determine which made more sense.

BTW, they weren't really on the run from poachers, just like their jeep didn't really break down. It was part of the "survival scenario" they were demonstrating.

Deputydave 01-10-2013 07:47

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Originally Posted by Unistat (Post 19843878)
What you saw as a pointless argument, I saw as a debate over the merits of two seemingly equally attractive options. They both laid out their reasons for the way they wanted to do things and left it to the viewer to determine which made more sense.

BTW, they weren't really on the run from poachers, just like their jeep didn't really break down. It was part of the "survival scenario" they were demonstrating.

I understand the poacher situation was fictional for the episode. And I understand the philosophy behind going fast/slow and yes, they needed to discuss that....but not standing still in the middle of a clearing! If the poacher situation is real...you're not getting farther from it. If the wild animal situation is real...you're standing there in the open. Better, more common sense thing to do is to discuss it WHILE moving, even slowly. You can watch where you're going, watch where you've been and still move. That's the point.

For example, if it were me and you in Africa, I'd be discussing the situation with you (walk fast/slow in the open/concealed etc) while we were on the move. At least then something is being accomplished. The last thing I'd do is stop in the middle of a clearing with you and open a debate. That accomplishes nothing except exposing us to risk from the front and from behind because we're busy arguing the finer points of survival while not moving or being situationally aware.


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