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Joe32780 01-29-2013 09:28

Grip question
 
Is a Grip Force beaver tail adapter allowed in competition?

unclebob 01-29-2013 10:40

It would only be allowed in unlimited.

Joe32780 01-29-2013 10:53

Bummer! .......thanks for the response, guess I need some range time without it before Orlando.

ron59 01-29-2013 12:39

I think Glock unveiled their version of it at Shot Show... at least for Gen4s?

Joe32780 01-29-2013 12:56

Yes, they are saying they will be available sometime in the middle of the year....they should be legal, since they are made by Glock, I'm assuming.

Comrade Bork 01-29-2013 13:03

No.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unclebob (Post 19925298)
It would only be allowed in unlimited.

No.

Aftermarket "beavertails" are allowed in the "stock" categories with Gen-3's & prior, so long as they are not wildly different from the Glock-produced beavertails available for the Gen4's.

You will not find it in the current rules. The 2013 rules are pretty much a repeat of the 2012 rules and that particular change did not get in there.

But it is true. Check with the GSSF RangeMasters at whatever rmatch you attend.

:supergrin:

Joe32780 01-29-2013 13:05

Now I'm confused....lol....I'll check in Orlando.

unclebob 01-29-2013 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe32780 (Post 19925813)
Now I'm confused....lol....I'll check in Orlando.

You are not the only one.

Joe32780 01-29-2013 13:11

I sent Mike a note, if he isn't too busy I'm sure he'll clear it up, at least for Orlando.

unclebob 01-29-2013 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade Bork (Post 19925802)
No.

Aftermarket "beavertails" are allowed in the "stock" categories with Gen-3's & prior, so long as they are not wildly different from the Glock-produced beavertails available for the Gen4's.

You will not find it in the current rules. The 2013 rules are pretty much a repeat of the 2012 rules and that particular change did not get in there.

But it is true. Check with the GSSF RangeMasters at whatever rmatch you attend.

:supergrin:

You can bet that I will, since I will be shooting 9 GSSF matches this year and ROing 2 and probably more of them.

GUNS N' HOGS 01-29-2013 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe32780 (Post 19925059)
Is a Grip Force beaver tail adapter allowed in competition?

Talked to a guy at GSSF before the Lexington, KY match last year (don't remember his name.......but was told he was director of competition) and he assured me it was allowed in Stock, Competiton, etc. Had it on my G35 Gen 4 for that Competition class, and nothing was pointed out by any of the ROs.

:wavey:

Joe32780 01-29-2013 16:35

Thanks for your input, Guns 'N Hogs.

unclebob 01-29-2013 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUNS N' HOGS (Post 19926427)
Talked to a guy at GSSF before the Lexington, KY match last year (don't remember his name.......but was told he was director of competition) and he assured me it was allowed in Stock, Competiton, etc. Had it on my G35 Gen 4 for that Competition class, and nothing was pointed out by any of the ROs.

:wavey:

Most of the people that RO GSSF matches do not shoot GSSF or have they ever read the rules, or will everything be covered in the RO briefing. But it is something I definitely find out for sure when I go to the Orlando match.

njl 01-29-2013 18:19

Latest printed rules say no. Hopefully there's not much involved in removing it, if that's necessary.

Joe32780 01-29-2013 18:50

No, just one pin.....seems like it would be allowed, since slip-on grips like Hogue are allowed, which is what prompted me to pose the question.

unclebob 01-29-2013 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe32780 (Post 19927018)
No, just one pin.....seems like it would be allowed, since slip-on grips like Hogue are allowed, which is what prompted me to pose the question.

The thing is that it changes the angle of the grip. I hope it will be allowed. It puts the angle of the grip in more in the line of the 1911. But we will see.

Joe32780 01-29-2013 19:02

It is more comfortable for me to shoot, and I don't see where it would give anyone an unfair advantage.

njl 01-29-2013 19:31

Looking at a picture of one, it looks like the main point is to avoid slide bite for those with meatier hands? Yeah...I don't see it as a real competitive advantage...and you could argue it's more of a safety feature than anything else.

Joe32780 01-29-2013 19:34

I use a pretty high grip, and it does offer a little insurance.

SARDG 01-29-2013 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe32780 (Post 19925831)
I sent Mike a note, if he isn't too busy I'm sure he'll clear it up, at least for Orlando.

Although Mike's a wonderful guy, he is the CFRPC GSSF Match Coordinator - not a Glock employee who can dictate rules. However, if he has heard the same thing, I'm sure he would tell you.

There are a lot of things that GSSF allows that are not in the rules - or that the rules seem to contradict at times.

Allowed (last I heard... but "tomorrow is another day".):
  • Plastic magwells
  • Plastic beavertails
  • Plastic unweighted grip plugs
  • Aftermarket slide cover plates
  • Decorative embossing/engraving on slide
  • Reshoots for absolutely anything including brain freezes
  • USPSA-type reloads unless specifically forbidden by local venue

There may be more that I am not remembering right now. I try to put these changes in my memory bank as they come along and spit them out when and if necessary at a match.

ETA: Plastic unweighted grip plugs added and "-type" added to USPSA.


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