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Brasso 01-29-2013 13:59

May we please have an Atheist forum?
 
Every single thread on here lately is invaded by atheists. It's ridiculous. Look at the last dozen or so threads.

It's damned annoying.

Geko45 01-29-2013 14:08

We are not "invading". We have an issue with religion so we are posting in RI just like you. And I wouldn't be so quick to go petitioning for multiple forums on religion (or the lack thereof) as the only reason why this forum exists at all is because Eric didn't want to see these debates in GNG. If you go tell him that you now need something else on top of this then it is likely that he would just shut down RI altogether and ban religious topics completely. Is that what you want?

Cream Soda Kid 01-29-2013 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brasso (Post 19926202)
Every single thread on here lately is invaded by atheists. It's ridiculous. Look at the last dozen or so threads.

It's damned annoying.

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9jeeps 01-29-2013 14:22

I would love to see you atheist on your own forum. I'll bet that would be a hoot!
Why? Because there is no such thing as an Atheist and never will be.

The Bible already tells us, "Every knee will bow. Every Tongue confess, Jesus Christ is Lord."

So far the Bible is 100% correct in telling what has happened and what is to come.

Batesmotel 01-29-2013 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geko45 (Post 19926223)
We are not "invading"

Yes you are. People want to discuss religion and you attack the very core of the subject as non existent.

Leigh 01-29-2013 14:55

I would just as soon see half of the GT forums eliminated, the religion forum being one of them.

Of course, if you don't like it then don't click on it...which is why I choose to not visit certain sub-forums.

That said, my spirtiual views are discussed and shared with my family, like-minded people, and my church. Period.

Wearing your religious beliefs on your sleeve is inviting nothing but trouble from complete strangers on a website and makes otherwise sensible adults, appear as fools.

Berto 01-29-2013 14:59

Lots of serious insecurity on both sides.

Arc Angel 01-29-2013 15:16

:thumbsup: YOU ARE SO RIGHT!

Quite frankly I've thought for awhile, now, that a forum for devil worshippers might be a perfect on-line, 'playpen' for the majority of these badly confused, and (I think) often deliberately misleading fellows.

They remind me of, 'party crashers'. The unfailing impression I get from much of the correspondence I've had with them is that if they have no personal sense of joy within themselves then they, sure as Hell, don't want you or me to have any hope in our hearts - either!

I mean, would you or I incessantly break-in, or interrupt a forum full of devil worshipers in order to spew invectives, or add your own two, 'miserable cents'? Believe me, I have no desire, whatsoever, to remind any of these people that they're, all, going to Hell. (Let 'um go where they will!)

:wavey:

The Lord God - speaking through the Prophet Moses in the 30th chapter of Deuteronomy - grants all men the right to choose either a good, or an evil outcome for their own lives. God will only hold out His Hand to fallen mankind for only a little while longer. The time for divine mercy is rapidly passing.

OK, if the other guy insists upon sticking his fingers in his ears, and closing his eyes to the numerous universal proofs-of-God which exist all around us, then, I say, 'Ignorance is bliss!' What the Hell; just let 'um go! I feel no compelling desire, or need, to interrupt each and every conversation these fellows engage in so that they might be exposed to The Truth. (What for? It ain't in them - Yes!) :dunno:

(I, often, don't even bother to reply to these people because, as a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, I already know that Christ, Himself, is going to reply to them for me!) :supergrin:

In fact I was musing to myself, this morning, that many of these increasingly intrusive and exceedingly verbose so-called, 'atheists' might, indeed, not believe in God, and strongly prefer to ignore Him. However, I'll just bet that many of these very same people, perversely, believe in the existence of evil, and covet Satan the devil in their hearts. :tbo:

(They would have to because on the one hand Sacred Scripture states, 'The fool hath said in his heart: 'There is no God.' On the other hand Christ, also, said, 'He who is not for Me is against Me.'

Consequently, I'm just as happy to let any, or all, of these foolish and genuinely hopeless people go their own way. I'm a good Christian; I'm a good gunman; but I'm, also, a largely indifferent missionary. I might pull a drowning man out of the water; but, if he jumps right back in again, hey, he's on his own. (We're, all, 'big boys' here - Right!) ;)

cesaros 01-29-2013 15:47

athiests are just attention whores.

concretefuzzynuts 01-29-2013 16:14

I thought this was the Atheist forum? :dunno:

Lone Wolf8634 01-29-2013 16:20

Awwww. Poor li'l fellers.

Yer feelers all hurt 'n stuff.

steveksux 01-29-2013 18:02

Better get a "Worship on Saturday" forum, and a seperate "Worship on Sunday" forum. Those folks don't get along very well either. :rofl:

Randy

Vic Hays 01-29-2013 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geko45 (Post 19926223)
We are not "invading". We have an issue with religion so we are posting in RI just like you. And I wouldn't be so quick to go petitioning for multiple forums on religion (or the lack thereof) as the only reason why this forum exists at all is because Eric didn't want to see these debates in GNG. If you go tell him that you now need something else on top of this then it is likely that he would just shut down RI altogether and ban religious topics completely. Is that what you want?


It is all a matter of semantics. You and some others are not "invading". What you are admitting to is just plain old "trolling". Having "an issue with" is not really the same as discussing.

Altaris 01-29-2013 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arc Angel (Post 19926432)

OK, if the other guy insists upon sticking his fingers in his ears, and closing his eyes to the numerous universal proofs-of-God which exist all around us, then, I say, 'Ignorance is bliss!'

Can you point to a single one of these 'universal proofs' so that I can see them? Has anyone tested and verified them?

I think the big misconception is that we non-believers want religion to be false. My wants and desires are completely irrelevant in the face of evidence. Evidence trumps my wishes 100% of the time.

I never close my ears or eyes. I am open to everything out there, as long as it is true. I want to know the truth, that is all. I don't care what the truth actually is, I just want to know it, and I want to see the evidence that backs it up. I just can't base my life and my entire existence on something with no evidence.

Sarge1400 01-29-2013 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brasso (Post 19926202)
Every single thread on here lately is invaded by atheists. It's ridiculous. Look at the last dozen or so threads.

It's damned annoying.

I'm curious; would you go to Burger King and ***** because they don't have a big Mac for you??

Whiner.:crying:

Cavalry Doc 01-29-2013 19:36

Survey said 71% no, 29% yes.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1463680

If it's up for a vote, that's done. But this is not a democracy, it is a privately owned site, so the only person to ask is ERIC.

Geko45 01-29-2013 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic Hays (Post 19927297)
It is all a matter of semantics. You and some others are not "invading". What you are admitting to is just plain old "trolling". Having "an issue with" is not really the same as discussing.

Umm, I've read, started and/or participated here in threads that challenged the biblical account of creation and life based on macro and micro biology, cosmology, physics, philosophy and even its own contradictory scripture. That's not trolling, that is making a rational argument. Sorry your worldview doesn't hold up to critical examination.

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Syclone538 01-29-2013 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brasso (Post 19926202)
Every single thread on here lately is invaded by atheists. It's ridiculous. Look at the last dozen or so threads.

It's damned annoying.

I try to either stay out of, or at least stay respectful, in threads that are clearly theists talking to other theists.

You could try saying "theists only" in a thread title. I don't know if it would work, but it's worth a shot.

An atheist forum wouldn't do much good, because there is not much for us to discuss between ourselves.

ArtificialGrape 01-29-2013 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arc Angel (Post 19926432)
Believe me, I have no desire, whatsoever, to remind any of these people that they're, all, going to Hell. (Let 'um go where they will!)

This statement would be believable coming from just about anybody else on the forum. You appear to delight, more than anybody else, in telling non-Christians that they are destined for hell.

Not only that, you point out that God laughs about what He is going to do to the wicked as should the righteous.

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Originally Posted by Arc Angel (Post 19737486)
Did you know that The Lord laughs about what He is going to do to the wicked (Psalms 2:1-12; 37:12-13). He does; and the righteous should laugh with Him (Ps 52:1-7; 58:6-11).

-ArtificialGrape

Kentak 01-29-2013 23:18

We're here legitimately. Cavalry Doc assures us atheism is a religion.

Kentak 01-29-2013 23:26

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Originally Posted by Syclone538 (Post 19927697)
An atheist forum wouldn't do much good, because there is not much for us to discuss between ourselves.

Atheist 1: So, still no god today?

Atheist 2: Nope.

Atheist 1: Okay. Catch ya tomorrow.

:yawn:

Cavalry Doc 01-30-2013 04:39

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Originally Posted by Kentak (Post 19928285)
We're here legitimately. Cavalry Doc assures us atheism is a religion.

Whew! Glad that's finally settled.

I think his point is that occasionally someone has a finer point to discuss, like the locked thread on just page 2 of the forum (it has "Jan 13" in the title) where someone admittedly waded in with vulgar insults to admittedly disrupt the conversation.

Personally, I like a good vigorous, but clean, debate on religious and political topics, but I'd see the value of neutral corners to go to when there are people with things they would like to discuss among only other atheists, theists or agnostics.

On the other hand, it's a gun forum, maybe another web site entirely would be better if that's what is desired.

I'm not sure neutral corners are even possible here.

Animal Mother 01-30-2013 05:00

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Originally Posted by Brasso (Post 19926202)
Every single thread on here lately is invaded by atheists. It's ridiculous. Look at the last dozen or so threads.

It's damned annoying.

Does the idea of having to defend your beliefs and interpretations frighten you so much that the only solution you see is restricting the ability of others to respond?

Woofie 01-30-2013 05:53

There is a Christians only forum on GT. Go buy yourself a membership and ask for an invite.

Who are all these devil worshippers Arc Angel is on about? They sound like a fun group.

Brasso 01-30-2013 07:03

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Does the idea of having to defend your beliefs and interpretations frighten you so much that the only solution you see is restricting the ability of others to respond?
OK. Here is the problem with that accusation.

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

I don't want to hear it. And frankly, I have about as much faith in "science's" understanding of creation as I do in the Easter Bunny laying chocolate eggs. You don't believe in God. Fine. Your life.

Now stay out of my discussions about the Bible. If I want your opinion of how everything in existence sprang out of nothing and evlolved into a controlled order from pure chaos all on it's own, I'll ask you.


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