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jeffreybehr 02-07-2013 18:05

357SIG--Just posted results of expansion and velocity tests...
 
...of Speer Gold Dot125s #54234.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1468509
post #13.

Tiro Fijo 02-07-2013 19:31

Why do stupid water jug testing when scientific & objective testing is at your fingertips? :wavey:


http://le.atk.com/resources/videos.aspx

jeffreybehr 02-07-2013 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo (Post 19961721)
Why do stupid water jug testing when scientific & objective testing is at your fingertips? :wavey:


http://le.atk.com/resources/videos.aspx

My my, pls tell us how you REALLY think!

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I test lots of bullets this way, and even if it's not as scientific as testing in, say, 10% ballistic jelatin, my results are highly comparable to each other. Bullets that come apart in water I do NOT want to use for personal defence. Bullets that expand correctly, stay together, and retain virtually all their weight I'm happy to carry for PD.

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Now go cool off and try to do as your mother told you--if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything...or maybe she didn't tell you and that's why you're such a arrogant grouch.

bac1023 02-07-2013 21:25

Thanks for the info.

Tiro Fijo 02-07-2013 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffreybehr (Post 19961915)
...Bullets that come apart in water I do NOT want to use for personal defence. Bullets that expand correctly, stay together, and retain virtually all their weight I'm happy to carry for PD...


And you base that on what? Reading tea leaves? Water will means nothing unless you're trying to prevent Aquaman from molesting you. :upeyes:

jeffreybehr 02-07-2013 21:51

Tiro, how 'bout for now on you just ignore my postings...sort of leave them to us idiots here on GlockTalk who feel there may be some useful info here.

Bye!

LASTRESORT20 02-07-2013 22:14

`Good stuff Jeff! Thanks

rustytxrx 02-07-2013 22:29

Jeffb, have you done any work with 357 Sig using the all cooper light wait bullets?

jeffreybehr 02-07-2013 23:17

rusty, search for my posts, read the subject lines, and you'll find lots of post about the Barnes TAC-XP bullets.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...dall3views.jpg

packinaglock 02-08-2013 04:23

Interesting, thanks.

SCmasterblaster 02-08-2013 08:09

Great expansion!

M1fuzz 02-08-2013 09:57

Tiro, do you post anything positive or just sit around and gripe about everyone and what they do, what they carry, and what they try to share with everyone on the forum. Cripes.. now go back downstairs at mom's house and start eating your cereal sitting in your obgyn chair with a Captain Crunch hat on!

SCmasterblaster 02-08-2013 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1fuzz (Post 19963676)
Tiro, do you post anything positive or just sit around and gripe about everyone and what they do, what they carry, and what they try to share with everyone on the forum. Cripes.. now go back downstairs at mom's house and start eating your cereal sitting in your obgyn chair with a Captain Crunch hat on!

Thanks for the info - I wasn't that aware. :cool:

rustytxrx 02-08-2013 11:48

JeffB, thanks. I am in retail business. For better or worse penetration is always on my mind.

rustytxrx 02-08-2013 11:52

Well maybe in the back of my mind.

Tiro Fijo 02-08-2013 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffreybehr (Post 19962399)
Tiro, how 'bout for now on you just ignore my postings...sort of leave them to us idiots here on GlockTalk who feel there may be some useful info here.

Bye!


OK, Range Gomer. Keep shooting your "scientific" milk jugs and watch your "6" for Aquaman!! :upeyes: :rofl:

jeffreybehr 02-08-2013 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiro Fijo (Post 19964581)
OK, Range Gomer. Keep shooting your "scientific" milk jugs and watch your "6" for Aquaman!! :upeyes: :rofl:

'Range Gomer'? I must be really out of it--I don't know what that means.

SCmasterblaster 02-10-2013 12:51

I wonder how they knew whether or not the all-copper alloy bullets would expand so well?

rustytxrx 02-11-2013 17:26

Most bullets can be found in the various forums or youtube. Some of the testers you learn to respect their results.

Then the home boy water jug test is just an easy way to confirm that your gun does a good job with the bullet. After a while you end up with a number of bullets that you can compare the expansion and number of jugs penetrated to the testers results for the same bullets. You then have a good idea if you can use the water jug test a a guide to rounds you want to carry.

I am responsible for the rounds and carry and I own the bullet where ever it ends up. I do get a kick out of shooting water jugs. Must be the twelve year old in me

SCmasterblaster 02-12-2013 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustytxrx (Post 19976456)
Most bullets can be found in the various forums or youtube. Some of the testers you learn to respect their results.

Then the home boy water jug test is just an easy way to confirm that your gun does a good job with the bullet. After a while you end up with a number of bullets that you can compare the expansion and number of jugs penetrated to the testers results for the same bullets. You then have a good idea if you can use the water jug test a a guide to rounds you want to carry.

I am responsible for the rounds and carry and I own the bullet where ever it ends up. I do get a kick out of shooting water jugs. Must be the twelve year old in me

And most every shooter has a water jug . . .


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