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frank4570 02-14-2013 20:12

Curious what you guys make of this.
 
I hope the video works. This is fairly close to my house.


nursetim 02-14-2013 21:01

Two things pop into my mind. First, footloose. Second, they were looking for law enforcement attention and they got it. I don't think it right as the force used was disproportionate to that being offered to a great extent.

Triple7 02-14-2013 21:07

Pretty ****** imo. I have no issues with exercising your rights...but most of these people are abusing their rights.

frank4570 02-14-2013 21:08

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Originally Posted by Triple7 (Post 19989255)
Pretty ****** imo. I have no issues with exercising your rights...but most of these people are abusing their rights.

Are they doing something which justifies being arrested?

wingryder 02-14-2013 21:55

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Originally Posted by nursetim (Post 19989230)
...they were looking for law enforcement attention and they got it.

+1. I don't know what their agenda is but I can see where the national memorial would like to keep due honor and respect to within the memorial. This form of protest makes these people just seem like disrespectful punks to me.

I would be pissed if I showed up at a reverent place, like the Jefferson memorial, and faced an unruly flash mob!

Though I agree that they may have used excessive force, the "mob" had no intention of cooperating with law enforcement, so I guess their force was necessary to have them stopped / removed. They were given ample warning IMO.

striketeamleader 02-14-2013 22:40

Damn hippies! Shoulda stayed off America's lawn!!!!!!!!!

Sam Spade 02-19-2013 13:29

I'd be interested in what particular use of force y'all think was excessive.

GLJones 02-19-2013 18:27

Sorry. Excessive use of force is where a person is cooperating or complying and the police use unnecessary or punitive force against them. In this case, they were warned multiple times and told what would happen if they did not comply. Once you decide to defy a police officer legally doing his duty, you are at fault for whatever happens to you until you surrender or comply. If an officer is violating your rights, the street is not the place to resist. This does not mean the police have the right to open fire on peaceful protesters and use extreme acts of violence against them, BUT, if they refuse to move, the police can use non-lethal force to make them comply.
If your rights are violated, the courts are there but often, higher-ups correct the situation and you have the choice to pursue further legal action.

Hrsuhd 02-19-2013 20:37

Is there more to this story seems stupid from both sides

NMPOPS 02-19-2013 21:17

Appears to me that the demonstrators were asked to stop dancing as it was possibly a disturbance. When they failed to comply Park Police were left with no choice but to arrest. I did not see any use of force that was out of line.

Revvv 02-19-2013 22:53

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Originally Posted by NMPOPS (Post 20009008)
Appears to me that the demonstrators were asked to stop dancing as it was possibly a disturbance. When they failed to comply Park Police were left with no choice but to arrest. I did not see any use of force that was out of line.


agreed

RussP 02-20-2013 07:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank4570 (Post 19989041)
I hope the video works. This is fairly close to my house.
Quote:

Originally Posted by frank4570 (Post 19989262)
Are they doing something which justifies being arrested?


Do you know the back story on this? I don't think so.

Dance Off: Court rules against birthday dance at Jefferson Memorial

In 2008, shortly before the 265th birthday of Thomas Jefferson on April 13, Mary Brooke Oberwetter and a group of 17 friends intended to "celebrate and honor the former President by ushering in his birthday with silent dance. They were ordered to disperse by U.S. Park Police officers.

Oberwetter did not comply. She was taken into custody for five hours and cited for "interfering with an agency function" and "demonstrating without a permit."

The Park Police later decided not to press the charges. HOWEVER, Oberwetter filed a suit saying her rights had been violated.

This went through the Courts up to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

This video from 2011 is the "civil danceobediance", an organized event. Aside
Live Civil “Danceobedience” at JeffersonDanceParty.info
As said before, the participants were looking for attention.
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The event was widely publicized on several websites including Facebook, streamed live and live-tweeted. Local media outlets were also informed of the event, and a public call for photographers, videographers and witnesses made sure a crowd beyond the usual tourist masses was set in place to watch. At one point, organizers decided to hold off until more dancers arrived for news cameras, making note that Park Police was well aware of the event and were also gathering in response.
There are more links embedded within the articles.

CanMan 02-20-2013 18:54

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Originally Posted by striketeamleader (Post 19989515)
Damn hippies! Shoulda stayed off America's lawn!!!!!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

TBO 02-22-2013 05:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Spade (Post 20007051)
I'd be interested in what particular use of force y'all think was excessive.

+1


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RussP 02-24-2013 08:58

This one certainly dried up...what could have caused that?

wrenrj1 02-24-2013 09:55

Just another example of the youth of today lacking respect and decorum then challenging their right to lack respect and decorum. Hope they all enjoyed their weekend in jail...


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