Glock Talk

Glock Talk (http://glocktalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   Sights, Optics and Lasers (http://glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=125)
-   -   Just got back from range, off with the Lasermax (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1474955)

rudybunt 03-02-2013 22:07

Just got back from range, off with the Lasermax
 
Just got back from the range. Went through 150 rounds with my G26. Everything went great except for the lasermax laser. I do not know why but I can never seem to hit the bullseye with a laser. I have had the CT on my G17 and the lasermax on my G26. Soon as I turned it off was right on target with my Glock factory night sights. It is odd to me . I just figured I would be better with the laser but I am not. I am worse. Just some food for thought.:dunno::dunno::dunno:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psbfa3ab7e.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps5a2d7b35.jpg

RPVG 03-02-2013 22:58

Could it be your laser isn't sighted properly?

Shiloh228 03-03-2013 02:07

what kind of sights are those?

WinterWizard 03-03-2013 06:00

That's because lasers suck. They may help you get on target a little faster, but they aren't going to make you shoot better. That is fundamentals, grip and trigger control.

railfancwb 03-03-2013 06:16

How are the groups with the laser vs those with the irons?


Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

TMNKWD 03-03-2013 08:22

I have a Crimson Trace on my G17 and could not be more happy with it. I have it sited in at 15 yards and it's spot on. Red dot is replaced with a hole when I pull the trigger.

I still acquire a proper sight picture through the iron sights, even with the laser on, to give me a better shot. The laser is then just cutting off a split second or two on target acquisition.

mjsarge 03-03-2013 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinterWizard (Post 20050951)
That's because lasers suck. They may help you get on target a little faster, but they aren't going to make you shoot better. That is fundamentals, grip and trigger control.

:agree:

todd_g 03-03-2013 08:42

I have a guide rod lasermax that came with the G27 I bought used. My rounds hit about 3 inches lower than my point of aim but perfectly center, unfortunately they are not adjustable. The intent of a laser is to get on target as quickly as possible and I can do that all day long. For me the laser cost about $30 if you figure in the value of my gun and how much I paid for it, so 3" is not a big deal, but if I paid the $300 for a new laser then yes I would be bit unsatisfied and would send it back if that is an option.

cowboy1964 03-03-2013 13:15

Lasers aren't for bullseye shooting, they are for self-defense.

XshooterX 03-03-2013 13:26

Lasers aren't for guns, they're for Pink Floyd concerts ;)


Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

rudybunt 03-03-2013 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPVG (Post 20050497)
Could it be your laser isn't sighted properly?

Could be but I rather not use it.

rudybunt 03-03-2013 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiloh228 (Post 20050832)
what kind of sights are those?

Glock factory night sights made by meprolight.

rudybunt 03-03-2013 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinterWizard (Post 20050951)
That's because lasers suck. They may help you get on target a little faster, but they aren't going to make you shoot better. That is fundamentals, grip and trigger control.


agreed $300 option that I do not need its packed up and on way to return.

rudybunt 03-03-2013 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by railfancwb (Post 20050963)
How are the groups with the laser vs those with the irons?


Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

Way off up to the right.

rudybunt 03-03-2013 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by todd_g (Post 20051283)
I have a guide rod lasermax that came with the G27 I bought used. My rounds hit about 3 inches lower than my point of aim but perfectly center, unfortunately they are not adjustable. The intent of a laser is to get on target as quickly as possible and I can do that all day long. For me the laser cost about $30 if you figure in the value of my gun and how much I paid for it, so 3" is not a big deal, but if I paid the $300 for a new laser then yes I would be bit unsatisfied and would send it back if that is an option.

I could not agree more!!!! On its way back

rudybunt 03-03-2013 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by XshooterX (Post 20052279)
Lasers aren't for guns, they're for Pink Floyd concerts ;)


Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire

Rock on brother!!!!!!

F-111 John 03-03-2013 13:37

Try shooting from retention with your night sights. Lasers are to get your shots on a human sized target, not to be bullseye shooting sights.

If you put big dot sights on your carry gun, you won't be shooting sub-MOA groups, either, but in a real situation you'll have more hits than with target sights.

If the point of your G26 is to punch holes in paper, then get rid of the laser. If it is to save your life, think twice about what the laser is really there for.

I'll be happy to take the Lasermax off your hands for free. I'll even pay shipping! ;)

pipedreams 03-03-2013 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboy1964 (Post 20052245)
Lasers aren't for bullseye shooting, they are for self-defense.

This......... :agree:

Made in Austria 03-03-2013 13:58

Your laser beam is probably off and needs to be adjusted a little. You either zero the laser at your desired self defense distance, or you zero it parallel with the bore axis.

Note that no gun laser will bring you right on the target/bullseye at any target distance due to the bullet drop. This doesn't play much of a role on pistols because pistols are used for short range shooting with almost no bullet drop. So I would just zero it parallel with the bore axis.

Here is a little graph that shows the bullet drop/trajectory of my rifle which I have zeroed in at 25 yards. A 25 yard zero means that I will hit the bullseye at 25 yards and then again at ~ 280 yards. But I am a little off between 25 yards and 280 yards, if I don't compensate for it. It all depends on what distance I want to shoot at.

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9c8bb740.png

glockman99 03-03-2013 14:31

The problem with lasers on handguns is that they show your "shake", and make you jerk the trigger before you are totally "on-target".


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 15:45.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2013, Glock Talk, All Rights Reserved.