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China boy 04-17-2013 20:10

HD over under and side by sides
 
Anyone have a over-under or side by side home defense shotgun? What brand are they and post pics if you got. Thanks

I seen both variety of the same brand at my LGS and forget the brand. But, they were both awesome and I think my girlfriend would like them.

:drinkie::smoking::pirates::drink::dog::homer:

MStarmer 04-17-2013 20:34

I don't currently have one but my dad had an old Stevens side by side. The problem is they are always cocked and you have no way to uncock them. He always dryfired before he put it away and eventually one of the firing pins broke. If I was to get one for defense it would be one with true exposed hammers so you can load it and store it hammer down. Not knocking them, I just don't really care for it.

Bullman 04-18-2013 03:01

I have a Sears aka Stevens side by side that I employ for my travel shotgun. It can be broken down in seconds without tools , longest piece being just a tad over 18 inches in length.

cowboywannabe 04-18-2013 03:24

two shots of anything is cutting it too close for me defensive wise.

Bullman 04-19-2013 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboywannabe (Post 20196956)
two shots of anything is cutting it too close for me defensive wise.

Then you will be happy to know that Chiappa is now making a TRIPLE BARREL 12 gauge shotgun now. Just read the article in Personal and Home Defense magazine tonight. Haven't looked it up on the webs yet, but I am intrigued. It is going to be a bit pricey too, around a 1500 dollar bill.:shocked:

dp2002813 04-20-2013 07:42

I love the old Stevens SxS. Great for shooting double trap with. Mine has a 28" barrel so it is too long for HD. Too difficult to get around corners and present with in hallways.

Stoeger makes some nice coach SxS:
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/fir...coach-guns.php

These are better for HD if that is what you have your heart set on. My standard HD shotgun is a 18.5" barreled pump-action.

Owned a Condor O/U few years ago, no complaints. Not for HD, IMHO. It is too long and heavy. 20g would be more suitable.

seamaster 04-20-2013 13:10

I like the SxS's and O/U's a lot more than pumps and semi-auto shotguns and I have an affection for the short barrel kind.

The current run of Stoeger coach guns is pretty poor compared to just a couple years ago. Look and feel the rough machine marks left inside the fixed chokes...it's very ugly! And they cheaper up the wood.

Today I'd probably buy a Russian made Stevens SxS's over the stoeger and there are some nice ones coming out of turkey. A pretty nicely made gun is the Maverick HS-12. It's light, well balanced and feels very nice in the hands.

I think the only gun I regret selling was a Stoeger coach gun that came with really nice walnut. I removed the auto safety, reversed the triggers and added a nice recoil pad...the guy who got it won't find another one like it and it was a real good shooter. I even used to shot trap with it for fun and it did OK!

China boy 04-21-2013 10:23

The stodgier double defense are the guns that I was originally thinking of. If I had to go back I would have grabbed one when I had the chance.

Bullman 05-20-2013 06:18

You wanted a pic.... Here is my Sears made by Stevens.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...bleshotgun.jpg

vafish 05-20-2013 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by MStarmer (Post 20196146)
I don't currently have one but my dad had an old Stevens side by side. The problem is they are always cocked and you have no way to uncock them. He always dryfired before he put it away and eventually one of the firing pins broke. If I was to get one for defense it would be one with true exposed hammers so you can load it and store it hammer down. Not knocking them, I just don't really care for it.

No need to dry fire for storage. Springs don't care if they remain compresses or extended. It is the cycling of the spring that ruins it so dry firing before storage is worse than just leaving it cocked.

I have an old Stevens 311 someone cut down to 18". Not a primary hd gun, but it will do the job as long as you don't fire 2 shots off in the air like Joe Biden.

posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.

countrygun 05-20-2013 15:12

Besides our pump guns, the wife and I have 3 doubles. 2 are the Chinese 'coach guns" and one is an EAA "Bounty Hunter" The Chinese guns are heavy and really make shooting "tactical reduced recoil" 12 ga rounds a breeze. The much lighter EAA has been "turned over" to me.

There are a lot of advantages to Coach guns and, since I always have a handgun on, I don't feel disadvantaged with one. You can always play a "what if?" game with anyone else's choices no matter what. Planning, preparation, practice, confidence/comfort, and attitude tend to balance the equipment part of the equation for civilians who aren't putting out "supportive fire".

dp2002813 05-20-2013 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by countrygun (Post 20307341)
Besides our pump guns, the wife and I have 3 doubles. 2 are the Chinese 'coach guns" and one is an EAA "Bounty Hunter" The Chinese guns are heavy and really make shooting "tactical reduced recoil" 12 ga rounds a breeze. The much lighter EAA has been "turned over" to me.

There are a lot of advantages to Coach guns and, since I always have a handgun on, I don't feel disadvantaged with one. You can always play a "what if?" game with anyone else's choices no matter what. Planning, preparation, practice, confidence/comfort, and attitude tend to balance the equipment part of the equation for civilians who aren't putting out "supportive fire".


:agree: +1

Lt Scott 14 05-20-2013 17:44

20 ga Rossi SxS with external hammers. Was 28in bbls, now 18in bbl, w/stock cuff(extra ammo) and a sling. Was last survivior of a large sell off in 2005 of the rest of my collection.
I did retain my Service Revolver(M10 4in bbl 38 spec.), and the Rossi became my all around shotgun till things improved. Pattern is short, meaning after 30yds, seems to be all out. Have fired deer slugs, #3(largest buckshot I could find), and birdshot. For critter removal, perfect. A couple of raccoons, possums, and a coyote spoken for.

Wifey carrys it on the tractor if running the fields. Has chased off a couple of poachers during deer season, had no permission from us to hunt.
Blonde woman with a double bbl? Wanna argue? Not.

Ends up in my pickup behind the seat sometimes.(cased of course). We own a couple of pump guns now, so they secure the house, but we keep the Rossi handy.(est about 30 yrs old) not one issue, never. Load, shoot, clean, repeat.

Murgatroy 05-26-2013 03:36

Been using a Rossi Overland Coach Gun for ~40 years and two generations.

It would be the last gun in my hands if the time ever came.

Double trigger, exposed hammer. Never once felt undergunned using it.

Jim S. 05-26-2013 09:34

Coach guns look very cool.
They have a true American history to them.
But if the modern shotguns of today were around back then I'm sure anyone riding shotgun would be carrying a good pump or auto with an extended magazine and descent sights.

briansp82593 05-27-2013 22:20

:supergrin:

Found this little guy in the LGS, decided I couldnt leave without it.

Considering Ive never seen one in person or even a damn picture online... Its a Beretta BL-2 Stakeout, factory 18" barrels, double triggers, extractors, and the ****tiest wood ive ever seen on a Beretta

Trying really hard to keep myself from filling out a form 1 and SBS'ing it

Please excuse the **** pictures and the dirty floors. Rain and dogs.
Glock 27 for size reference

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd50939db.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...psb2ee1dfe.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps1e7170d3.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...psad00b821.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd146f7a7.jpg

Aceman 05-29-2013 18:08

Stoger Coach

countrygun 05-29-2013 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by briansp82593 (Post 20327572)
:supergrin:

Found this little guy in the LGS, decided I couldnt leave without it.

Considering Ive never seen one in person or even a damn picture online... Its a Beretta BL-2 Stakeout, factory 18" barrels, double triggers, extractors, and the ****tiest wood ive ever seen on a Beretta

Trying really hard to keep myself from filling out a form 1 and SBS'ing it

Please excuse the **** pictures and the dirty floors. Rain and dogs.
Glock 27 for size reference

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd50939db.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...psb2ee1dfe.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps1e7170d3.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...psad00b821.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd146f7a7.jpg

That is a sweet shotgun. Like you, I have never seen one in person. I hope my wife doesn't either, she will just have to find one.

Booker 06-28-2013 09:42

Although I have a Mossberg 590, My HD shotgun is a Remington Spartan SxS Coach gun.
It has external hammers, double triggers, and changeable choke tubes.

It has two cylinder choke tubes in place now, and is loaded with 2 3/4 OO Buckshot.

I like the balance of a coach gun vs a pump, plus the overall length is shorter. It swings better in a side to side motion in narrow hallways.

Many members will disagree with my decision of using a SxS for HD, but to each his own!

Aceman 06-29-2013 05:42

You know - I want to mention a couple of things here that are fundamentally WRONG:

#1 What YOU think your girlfriend would like is completely irrelevant. Major gun buying/shopping error. There are hundreds of threads regarding a dude's opinion on a chic's appropriate gun that describe how this goes wrong.

#2 And this is the more important issue. You do not EVER buy your girlfriend a gun. Your wife, MAYBE. But even then serious caution is warranted. If you don't know why, explaining will likely not help...


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