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A Collection of BASIC INFO....
Over time, I have this amassed a collection of basic info that some new folks may find useful.
I don't know what's required in the way of mandated training in other states, but to get a CCW where I live(d), the requisite first step was to attend a State Police approved firearms course. Well, I now realize how cursory that course really was. Basically, we discussed the "4 rules", we learned what the various parts are called and what thier functions are. We were strongly "encouraged" to join the NRA. We went fired 6 rounds from a .32 wheelie, and 5 from a .22 autoloader. That's it. Everyone passes. I think we've all met a few folks that this kind of "Guns 101" info could help. Day One Stuff:
Holsters & Clothes; I also have a "standard spiel" for guns w/o extrernal safeties:
Be Conscious of Lead; particularly when shooting indoors.
I've also included some other stuff as well...I don't expect everyone will agree on all counts, but I'm puttin' it out there anyway. Grip Enhancements; AGrip PROs: Agrip is especially good for the cold and wet. Great in the heat, too. Won't scratch stuff up like skatebaord tape will. Adds only minimal thickness to the grip. Since it comes off when you want it to, it will not impact resale value. CONs: Not permanent (although it holds up well). Kinda pricey. Applying it can be frustrating, particularly the first time you try. The other kids may make fun of your "fuzzy" gun; personally, I don't have a problem it. Skateboard Tape PROs: Cheap, cheap, cheap. Easy to apply. Works very well in most conditions. Found @ hardware stores. Easily modifiable by the user. Adds only minimal thickness to the grip. Since it comes off when you want it to, it will not impact resale value. I've never heard any negative comments about appearance. CONs: It scratches the hell out of everything it contacts, keep it away from your favorite jacket's lining, folks. Not permanent, but easy to replace as needed (did I mention it's cheap?) Inner Tube (a la Butch) PROs: Cheap, cheap, cheap. Easy to apply. Works very well in most conditions. Found in any punk kid's bike tire (kidding...easy to find, bike shops throw this stuff away). Easily modifiable. Won't scratch anything up. Adds only minimal thickness to the grip. Since it comes off when you want it to, it will not impact resale value. CONs: Not permanent, but it's easy to replace (did I mention it's cheap?). Some have reported that it smells funny (bad), although mine don't. I have heard some negative comments regarding cosmetics; I think it looks OK...so there. Grip Stippling PROs: Permanent, this is a good thing if you're SURE you like it. Will never slip or come loose. Works well in all conditions. Can be done for free if you're handy and have a soldering iron (practice first on something else!). Most folks seem to like the look of stippling, but I'm undecided. For me, it's a "case by case" thing...some look really good, others look really amatuerish. Adds nothing to the thickness of the grip. CONs: Permanent, this is awful if you decide you don't like it. Most likely will negatively impact resale value. Many shooting sports sanctioning bodies do not allow this modification. Can be very pricey if done professionally. Can look pretty crappy if done poorly. Rubber Grip Sleeve (a la Hogue Hand-all, Pachmayr, etc) PROs: Easy to find. Easy to apply. Easy to remove if you don’t like it. Can add finger grooves to a pistol grip without them. Can enhance existing finger grooves. They work well in all conditions (I'm told). Since it comes off when you want it to, it will not impact resale value either way. I've never heard any negative comments regarding cosmetics. CONs: Adds substantial width thickness to the grip, and I’ve never heard anybody pine for a wider pistol grip. Fairly pricey for a chunk ‘o’ rubber. Virtually unmodifiable by the user. DISCLAIMER: I have never liked these things, and have never used one for any length of time…I also don’t trust ‘em to stay put. Completely subjective opinion…take it for what it’s worth. I have never used Duct/Electrical/Sports grip tapes. Try it if you like, and let us know how it worked out for you. The Great Guiderod/Spring debate;
Is it safe to carry a chambered Glock? The functional design of the Glock is extremely fool-resistant (I never use the term "fool-proof", because they keep coming up with better fools ;)) Seriously, the Glock is a very safe design; when your training is sufficient, there is no problem carrying with a round chambered.
The Bullet Set-Back Issue Here's what I do with my carry rounds.
Should I Leave the Copper "lube" on, or Remove it? It's anti-sieze. Glock Inc. cannot control under what conditions the gun will be stored and for how long. They use the copper "lube" (copper/grease compound) simply to ensure that the slide mechanism is protected from harsh and/or extended storage conditions. It has nothing to do with "break-in", which is a myth. Alot of equipment designed for use in the arctic is similarly treated at the factory. This "lube" may be removed whenever it suits you to do so. That being said, it is mostly grease, and will function adequately as a lubricant for a time. To plug or not to plug, that is the question. I consider the unweighted plugs to be primarilly a cosmetic item. Many folks don't like 'em because "if Gaston wanted that covered, HE would've done it." or some other silly reasoning. I have also heard some pretty outlandish "backpressure" and "flex" explanations to back up that position. It's BS. Undoubtably, some will say that it could/would impair your ability to remove a stuck magazine. I have both "plugged" and "unplugged" versions, and I've never had a problem with that. If you want a more "finished" look, go for it, it won't hurt a thing. Now, the weighted plugs are another matter, they will affect the balance of the gun significantly. This is by definition a user preference issue, and only you can decide what's right for you. Unintended Slide Release. Just about any autoloader will do it if you SLAM the mag home hard enough, especially if the slide stop lever or mating surface is worn. It is also true that most designs are more prone to this when the muzzle is pointed skyward. Basically, if you apply enough force (in the "right" direction) to the gun to overcome the resistance in the slide stop mechanism, you will see this happen. The "sharper" the blow, the more likely it will happen, as well. I know of one fool that actually took a dremel to the contact surfaces in a misguided effort to decrease the inherent resistance between them in order to encourage the effect. Bad idea; too much fooling with the slide left him with a gun that slammed closed if you looked at it too hard. At any rate; yes, it happens. No, it's not quite "normal". Though it may be kinda cool, don't count on it to happen because (as Mr. Murphy has taught us) it won't when you NEED it to. Train as though it can't happen, and just enjoy it as a bonus when it does, and keep that muzzle pointed downrange in case of a slamfire. Have fun, be safe. Tim :) |
Thanks, these rules of engagement can't be repeated enough.
Spending a couple of hours each week at the military range on my own I have to confess I'm a sinner of the non smoking paragraph. |
Hi Timmah!
Hey, these look pretty good, and I will sticky this thread for you for a little while. Thanks for taking the time to compile this info.
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Good stuff for newbies but even better for veteran shooters. Good reinforcement.^6 ^c
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How about Col. Cooper's big four?
1) All guns are allways loaded. 2) Never let your muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. 3) Keep your finger out of the trigger guard and off the trigger until you are on target and ready to shoot. 4) Be sure of your target and what is beyond. I think if more people learned and listened to these ther would be a lot less tradegy in the world. |
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Good info
Here is a nugget of knowledge (Not!) that I was taught in my firearms course for my CCW:
The instructor was giving a history of firearms and was working his way up throught the calibers. He eventually reached the big bore hunting rifles and came to a class of calibers called the "belted magnums". In case anyone is unfamiliar the belted magnums are named for a band of extra thick brass around the base of the cartridge that looks like a belt. A student asked "Why are they called belted magnums" to which the instructor looked instantly worried and said "they are used in belt fed machine guns". He quickly moved on with his presentation. My thoughts were at first laughter then I was angry at what a crock of BS this class was. |
What is the proper pronunciation of Glock?
G-Lock? or rhymes with Clock? |
Are you serious, or am I missing something? ;Q
In case you really don't know.....it rhymes with "Clock" Tim |
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Re: A Collection of BASIC INFO....
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Great thread. But aren't we getting a little overly paranoid about lead? I've put many thousands of rounds down range, many of them cast lead bullets, in practice and at matches. And while wearing short sleeve shirts. Hasn't affected me in the least! In the least! oR something?
What did I just say? wHere am I? |
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Maybe I should take up bowling!
Or just stay in bed. |
G-lock owns Heckler and Cock.
I hate, hate, hate it when people call it Heckler and Cock. :steamed: |
Tim,
Do you peel and eat the bandana before you cover your drink with it? You don't need to reply to this - I am joking. Seriously, a useful post. I have never thought enough about lead poisoning and I think your precautions are valid. I also suspect the greatest danger might be from finely dispersed airborne particles that are breathed in. On an out door range the "smoke" can blow in any direction but is dispersed quickly. On an indoor range with positive airflow I suspect that there is enough turbulence to bring it back to the shooters. As a non smoker I can often smell cigarette smoke while the smoker is still yards down wind! English |
Great reminders. I'm a long time gun owner and am partial to Brownings and Rugers. Santa brought me my first Glock (G26) for Xmas and I can't wait to get to the range! I tend to "figure things out" without reading the manuals but I will be sure to read the instructions before breaking in my new gift.
Perfect timing with these basics.....Safety First Thanks |
Thanks for all the positive feedback, folks!
Like I said in my opening post, it seems that what is considered "training" throughout the shooting community varies substantially. If this info helps a new shooter make the right holster choice, or remember to perform a FPS check, etc. etc...then I'm a happy guy. ;) Tim |
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G-LOC, pronounced /gee lahk/, is an aviation term, an acronym for G-Induced Loss of Conciousness. It's when you pull hard enough to black yourself (or your crew) out. If the pilot goes out, it's often a deadly mistake, as regaining one's senses can take 30 or more seconds after the blackout ends, plenty of time to C-FIT /see fit/, Controlled Flight Into Terrain. [/SIDEBAR] Nice thread. |
That is a pretty good set of "rules of the road" in the first post. Even when you feel you already know the basics, seeing them again helps keep you aware of them.
I can see why someone might wonder about the pronuciation of "Glock," especially if that individual is fairly new to the handgun world. The confusion probably comes from the company logo, such as seen on the side of the boxes the guns come in when you buy them. A really large "G," surrounding a smaller "lock." Nice logo, but it might be read as "G-Lock." Mike |
Timmah,
Great post! I'm a newbie as the name implies. While I always try to follow proper safety when handling firearms, extra advice always helps. I never really thought about the lead aspect of shooting. It's posts like this one from you that make me wish all gun owners were as responsible as those on this forum (at least from what you tell from a forum). Thanks again! |
I purposely avoid indoor ranges just because of lead. You are more than likely exposed to nearly ten times the levels by shooting indoors.
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