UPDATE: I added in a list of fiction books to my first two posts here. The archives keep getting deleted, but this list should be safe here in a "sticky."
Well, I started my library:
"SAS Survival Handbook (Collins Gem) (Collins Gem)"
John 'Lofty' Wiseman; Paperback; $7.95 - amazon.com
Gregory J. Davenport; Paperback; $5.49 - bookoutpost
Gregory J. Davenport; Paperback; $12.03 - amazon.com
"Nuclear War Survival Skills: Updated and Expanded 1987 Edition"
Cresson H. Kearny; Paperback; $19.50 - amazon.com
"Crisis Preparedness Handbook: A Complete Guide to Home Storage and Physical Survival"
Jack A. Spigarelli; Paperback; $19.95 - amazon.com
"The SAS Guide to Tracking (SAS)"
Bob Carss; Paperback; $14.16 - amazon.com
"Tracking and the Art of Seeing: How to Read Animal Tracks and Sign"
Paul Rezendes; Paperback; $11.88 - textbooksnow.com
"Trapper's Bible: Traps, Snares & Pathguards"
Dale Martin; Paperback; $11.36 - amazon.com
"A Field Guide to Edible Wild Plants: Eastern and central North America (Peterson Field Guides(R))"
Lee Allen Peterson; Paperback; $12.92 - amazon.com
"A Field Guide to Medicinal Plants and Herbs: Of Eastern and Central North America (Peterson Field Guides (R))"
James A. Duke; Paperback; $13.49 - amazon.com
"The Encyclopedia of Edible Plants of North America"
Francois Couplan; Paperback; $14.16 - amazon.com
"Where There Is No Doctor: A Village Health Care Handbook"
David Werner; Paperback; $22.00 - amazon.com
"Where There Is No Dentist"
Murray Dickson; Paperback; $14.00 - amazon.com
"Wilderness Medicine, Beyond First Aid, 5th Edition"
William Forgey; Paperback; $10.61 - amazon.com
I also already have various army TMs, boy and cub scout manuals, bird identification books, and so on.
This is a LOT of reading.
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The Road - Cormac McCarthy
It was pretty good, based on some sort of nuclear winter type o situation that the survivors turned into cannibals. All except the main characters.
Good read, "The Road".
I liked The Road. It was a pretty dark story but that is the setting for you. It's just set in post TEOTWAWKI which isn't going to be Disneyland. The characters (a man and his boy) really grow on you and you really root for them to make it since the chances are sooo slim. You almost kind of wonder why they keep going as it is such a grim world that is left.
I just finished THE ROAD...
Very dark. Very simplistically complicated.
I laughed only once while reading it... Right at the end:
boy: How do I know you're one of the good guys?
man: You don't. You'll have to take a shot.
boy: Are you carrying the fire?
man: Am I what?
boy: Carrying the fire.
man: You're kind of weirded out, aren't you?
On the Beach (book and movie) - Nevil Shute
It was also made into a movie in the 50's. Apparently there is a nuclear world war and due to the winds and all Australia is the last place to get the radioactive fall out.
I think On the Beach was remade a few years ago and updated. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219224/
Alas, Babylon - Pat Frank
first published in 1964. I'd read it once about 30 years ago and just did a re-read and still enjoyed it.
my personal fave, I read it once a year
Alas, Babylon is another (ancient) good read.. if you've not.
Lucifer's Hammer and ALas, Babylon are two of my favorite books. You can get both of them pretty cheap at amazon.
When it comes to realism, I thought books like Alas, Babylon were much more realistic than some of the others.
Lucifer's Hammer - Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle
Lucifer's Hammer is good.
I read Lucifers Hammer back in 1977 or 78 when I was a kid and I loved it! I was already a fan of such books as My Side of the Mountain, the writings of Jack London and Joseph Conrad, and big into backpacking so I was already an S&Per but Lucifer's Hammer was one of the books which began to get me thinking about S&P from a more "adult" perspective. It is truly one of the great survival novels.
I am pretty sure my origional copy of Lucifer's Hammer is in one of my many boxed-up books in storage in the basement, but I just purchased another copy. I am on business in So-Cal and went to go see a movie on Wednesday. Nothing interesting was playing so instead I went to Borders and purchased Lucifer's Hammer, the current issue of ShotGun News and book (Weird California) for my wife. Purchasing a second copy of Lucifer's Hammer was definitely the better investment of my money than going to the movies!
The book might be 30 years old, but it is still wonderful!
If you have not read it, I definitely recommend this great survival novel!
Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle know how to write a story. I've read Lucifer's Hammer a couple times over the past few decades; some of the social attitudes and technology are a bit dated (the book was written in the 70s), but it is a great EOTWAWKI novel .
Lucifer's Hammer would make a prepper out of a lot of people..
not sure it'll entertain you so much as scare you silly..
Lucifer’s Hammer is imo right up there with Unintended Consequences, Atlas Shrugged, and the Sackett series in the short list of “books every young man should have read”.
I read Lucifer's hammer for the first time not too long ago. A family member recommended it to me. I liked it and thought it was entertaining and thought provoking. Four out of Five stars. It begged for a sequal which never came.
Lucifer's Hammer and ALas, Babylon are two of my favorite books. You can get both of them pretty cheap at amazon.
I've done a little writing, and thought that Lucifer's Hammer would make a good base for other people to write stories covering how THEIR part of the country(or world) would survive the impact and the aftermath. There have already been a few stories written along those lines, like A.T. Hagan's.
Interesting coincidence this should come up just now. I just got through re-reading Lucifer's Hammer a few days ago. GREAT book! There really aren't that many books out there that are still good the second and third time around, but this one is. I also like it because the guy with the big ranch gets to call the shots .
Anyway, if any of you haven't read it, you really should. Good story line, well written, and lots of plausibility to the overall scenario and it's results. Pournell actually enlisted Mel Tappan as a consultant when he was researching the book, and it shows. Definitely rates in my top 5 of all SHTF stories.
Now Lucifer's Hammer on the other hand, DAMN! Excelent book. Anybody who spends time reading this forum should spend some time and read Lucifer's Hammer. I'm about 2/3 the way through and I couldn't put it down last night. I was up until 4AM.
What has it taught me? I've way underestimated the importance of a truly off road capable vehicle. I've way underestimated the importance of a useful skill in a PAW/TEOTWAWKI. I've way underestimated the importance of a secure bug out location. Even if I plan to bug in, a plan for bugging out must be in place. I've even underestimated the importance of food.
Its just a book. And fiction at that. But some good lessons IMHO.
Lucifer's Hammer is a great book. I only read it and Footfall last year for the first time and despite its age it reads like any modern novel short of a couple of everyday enhancements like satellite tv or the internet. Footfall is not as good but it is still a great read.
I read it also and enjoyed it.
I read LH last week and liked it
The Postman is worth a read.
Farnham's Freehold - Robert Heinlein
How about Farnham's Freehold
The Rift - Walter J Williams
New Madrid Fault gives way, lower Mississippi valley is given a Katrina. Really good in the sociological views, more than a little "how to" as well, like how to use asprin to create "go boom" stuff like picric acid.
Not really "end of the world" but great reading anyway about a disaster scenario...
Another on is "The Rift" by Walter J. Williams. It is long, and a Katrina type SHTF story. But centered around an earthquake. It gets drawn out in some places but has a lot of good info thrown in and the consequences of not preparing.
Year Zero - Jeff Long
Ancient plague unwittingly loosed on modern man. Great read.
The Descent - Jeff Long
Underground beings emerge, Hell is real and it's here to stay. A really great read.
Tunnel in the Sky - Robert Heinlein
Survival story of the future. Not bad at all.
The Years of Rice and Salt - Kim Stanley Robinson
Ya gotta accept the reality of karma and reincarnation but it's thought provoking if you have a good handle on far east and mid east history. Turns into a kind of alternate history read as Arabs recolonise Europe. Oh, I'm sorry, that's reality now.
Sorry don't have it handy for the author. Post apocalytpic England and the rise of a new society. Kind of like reading a Canterbury Tales of the future at times. A good read.
Enemies Foreign and Domestic
Dot Gov turns on people to subverte their rights. Lots of high tech info and how it's turned on the citizenry for spying purposes. A good read, now playing in a gov.office near you.
+1 for Enemies, Foreign and Domestic.
No, it's not a how to manual for getting rid of your spousal unit. Part two of above, centers on the Aztlan movement. Another futuristic read, yeah right the Mexicans invading the US!
The Stand - Stephen King
Also want to add "The Stand" by Stephen King. I think it's the best King novel I've read.
Cell - Stephen King
I read the S.King novel "Cell" after those two and was entertained a lot with that one also. It certainly was a new twist on the well tread zombie apocalypse genre.
I enjoyed the "Cell" as well but it was just a hair too 'out there' for me as is typical with Steven King for me. Great book though and I'd recommend it.
The Rackham Files - Dean Ing
I recently ran across some fiction by Dean Ing that is pretty good
Pulling Through - Dean Ing
Wolf and Iron - Gordon Dickson
I liked Wolf and Iron by Gordon Dickson.
Dies the Fire - S.M. Stirling
And for something completely different I enjoyed the Dies the Fire series by S.M. Stirling.
Two good ones are "Dies the Fire" and the sequal "Meeting at Corvalis" by S.M. Sirling (?)
Society is reduced technologically to the pre-industrial age.
The premise is that all explosives and electricity suddenly stop working. So, no more gunpowder, car engines, or most other technology. The people have to rebuild society from very crude beginnings.
Island in the Sea of Time - S.M. Stirling
The island of Nantucket is thrown into prehistoric times. The island itself is somewhat self-sufficient, but the people have to rebuild society almost entirely while confronted by various military threats.
Conquistador - S.M. Stirling
Not really a SHTF novel. A character in the book discovers a portal to an alternate reality and attempts to build a civilization that matches his philosophy. The book is set much later, when the portal and civilization are discovered by the protagonists.
The Last Ship - William Brinkley
The crew of a US naval warship are some of the last survivors after a world-wide nuclear holocaust. Very sophisticated and philosophical treatment of the human factors of survival.
Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse - John Wesley Rawles
Another good one is Patriots surviving the coming collapse by James Wesley Rawles. It has been re released recently with several new chapters. A very good read. Thought provoking.
I read ... "Surviving the coming collapse" too. That one seemed more like a survival manual with a story thrown in, but it was good.
Swiss Family Robinson
Farmer in the Sky
the early Sackett books - Louis L'Amour
Some of the Louis L’Amour books have good info on desert and winter survival as well. There’s been more than once that something my kids saw done on Surviviorman was something I first read of in a L’Amour book; things like the cactus needle-&-thread and such. The early Sackett books are very good in this regard; being set in 1600’s North America. (May be 1500’s North America even; it was a long time ago that I read them.) Watching the Crocodile Hunter one time a few years ago, I was able to sound sage-like to my kids by mentioning an alligator’s propensity to knock a man's legs out form under him with its tail, before the host mentioned it. The kids were impressed, but the fact is it was just something I’d read in a L’Amour book in the 70’s and hadn’t really had much reason to think about after that. L’Amour’s books are also entertaining enough that kids & teenagers will read them for the entertainment value; the information value is just a subconscious plus.
Plague Year - Jeff Carlson
Anyway, picked up Lucifers Hammer as well as a new novel called "Plague Year" by a new author Jeff Carlson. I'm about 5 chapters into Plague Year and it is good so far. Cannibalism, murder, sex, and altitude sensitive nanobots that eat you from the inside. What else could one ask for?
Finished Plague Year. Quick read. Fun book. Gets a thumbs up in my opinion but is not ever going to be a classic.
Z for Zachariah
I read something once upon a time about this chick that escapes a nuclear fallout in a valley of some sort. Then some guy was after her to rape her or something, I think he had radiation poisoning. I can't remember the name but I guess it'd fit under SHTF category. It was an alright book.
The Survivalist - Ahern
I started reading Ahern's series, The Survivalist, but didn't read too many of them. Even the first one stretched my disbelief too far. John Thomas Rourke just kept going around looking for gunfights(and finding them) . Yeah, I know he was the biggest, baddest thing in the Valley of Death, but still, even Superman had kryptonite to worry about.
The Dome in the Forest
I also read a series on survivors who lived underground, "The Dome In The Forest", and several others based on that. These folks lived underground, with a topside dome having an observation telescope. The scope was damaged by the (nuclear) event, so they thought the outside was still unlivable and went back underground to their survivalist life. Other folks survived the blast, and knew that yearly some force raised the scope and rotated it, then it withdrew. It was their great yearly mystery event.
The whole series indicated how and why various groups had survived, and how they evolved, a lesbian scientist who was on a spelunking trip with a big party of females, a group of doper bikers who now raise dope and party all the time, etc. No one had really prepared for the big event, but they made it through in various ways, and developed different little communities to make a new life.
Out of the Ashes - William W. Johnstone
"Out of the Ashes" by William W. Johnstone is pretty darn good also. Johnstone eventually wrote twenty something Ashes books. Don't bother reading past the first one! Johnstone was a survivalist, and a pretty good author, but he would get lazy. His first books in each series are pretty good and then he just cranks out a bunch of sequels.
I think by the time he died, Johnstone started thinking he WAS Ben Raines. A lot of people fell in love with the Tri-States idea, and you used to see ads in Survival Guide from people who were looking for others who supported the Tri-States philosophy. I thought the first one wasn't too bad, sort of like The Survivalist series. I agree about the rest of the Ashes series going downhill.
Ring of Fire series - Eric Flint
These books deal with a West Virginia coal town thrown into the 30-years war in Germany. They have to rebuild society with the knowledge that they brought with them. The books are titled 1630, 1631, etc.
A Boy and His Dog (movie)
Children of Men (movie)
Lights Out! (internet) - David Crawford (halffast)
free, on the web and deserves to be published!
I am currently reading "Lights Out" by Halffast. I am enjoying it
Lights Out beats most published works i've read. Gonna be hard to find a better one. Thanks again Halffast.
Lost and Found (internet - unfinished) - halffast
I wanted to let you all know that I am working on a new story. This one will be considerably shorter than "Lights Out". The first 11 chapters are available HERE. I expect that there will be around 35 chapters by the time I'm finished, but I may not post all of them on the net. I hope you get to finish it in paperback form. I'm trying to add a chapter every two weeks or so. If you decide to read it, please give me your frank and honest reviews. Thanks for your time and thanks for all the support that LO recieved here in the S/P Forum.
Cold Camp (internet)
free, on the web
Birth of a Raider (internet) - old bear
"Old Bear" wrote some survival short stories a few years ago that are good. "Birth of a Raider" was very realistic imo.
Aftermath (internet) - Al Steiner
I consider Aftermath pretty good, but do warn people there's plenty of gratuitous sex and violence in it. Some people are more sensitive than others. I figure if TSHTF there will probably be plenty of violence and probably some sex, too, and I don't like my stories sugar-coated.
It has 21+ chapters, so it might be easier to save it to your computer and read it offline.
If you liked Lucifer's Hammer, you might also like the online story Aftermath, by Al Steiner. I'm not quite sure how it connects to Lucifer's Hammer, but it seems like it would tie in with it fairly easily.
Doing it all over (internet) - Al Steiner
Another good read is by the guy that wrote Aftermath.
This isn't about the survivial you might expect, but it is a good read, lots of sex though, like Aftermath, which was really good also.
Zombie type book, it's a decent read. Not as good as lights out though.
Triple Ought (internet)
Anybody have one of these?
The Outward Bound Wilderness First-Aid Handbook: Revised Edition (Paperback)
Wilderness First Aid: Emergency Care For Remote Locations (Paperback)
Wilderness Medical Associates Field Guide (Spiral-bound)
Medicine for the Backcountry, 3rd (Paperback)
Deep Survival: Who Lives, Who Dies, and Why (Hardcover)
98.6 Degrees: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive [ILLUSTRATED] (Paperback)
Backcountry First Aid and Extended Care, 4th (Paperback)
Wilderness 911: A Step-By-Step Guide for Medical Emergencies and Improvised Care in the Backcountry (Backpacker Magazine) (Paperback)
PHTLS Basic and Advanced Prehospital Trauma Life Support: Military Version (Paperback)
Build the Perfect Survival Kit (Paperback)
Two Kilogram Survival Kit Field Manual
Santa said that if I was good, he might drop a couple of these in my stocking. Anybody read any of these?
Good thread, BTW. Lofty Wiseman and Dick Forgey are good authors, I have their books.
Sorry , it's bolted down, but you can come over and use it...
Free FM 21-76 download.
If you haven't found one on the net yet, here is a very useful Army Manual. You can buy one off of Amazon for 5 bucks as well.
If anyone has an unabridged, pdf version it would be welcomed greatly!
Here is 21-76-1 in PDF, I am not sure if its the one you want.
Sticky request submitted.
This book costs $200!!! (2300 pages)
I have the original version, FM 21-76 and the newer version FM 21-76-1,which I think is just a "multi service" version for Army,Navy and Air Force but nay have some updates.I also found a pdf file that is called the "color pictures for FM 21-76-1".
The current field manuals have a new numbering system.The new replacement number is suppose to be the same as FM 21-76-1 but includes the color pixtures in the book/pdf file.This new FM number,even though the book is no different, is classed as "Restricted" instead of "Approved for public release".
FM 21-76 Survival Manual
FM 21-76-1 Evasion, Survival and Recovery
The latest Army Survival Manual FM 3-05.70 is larger and includes the color pictures in it.
Well let's see for how long these links stay good.
Aircraft Water Ditching Survival
Here's the big one with cold pictures(Get it while you can,this one is often difficult to find)
I just got my copy of "BACK TO BASICS". It has a wealth of valuable information. I highly recommend it. I wanted to buy it for Christmas but it was selling for $65. ouch. I just bought it for $37 and change off Amazon.
This how-to, user-friendly guide teaches self-sufficiency-covering all of life's essentials: shelter; alternative energy sources; growing and preserving food; home crafts; directions for making herbal remedies; and even home-grown entertainment.
US ARMY survival FM 21-76 complete with color pictures.
A guy named (I think) Robert Pelton has a book on surviving extreme situations. It's called "Come Back Alive". Tells you stuff about what to do if your lost (cold or hot environment) and all sorts of whacked out stuff like how to survive a plane crash or a kidnapping. Not a bad read.
Might want to think about adding:
Where there is No Doctor
Where there is No Dentist
How To Stay Alive In The Woods
Also, any Tom Brown books.
Survival! Great Living in Grubby Times
Just finished reading this book by former green beret: Don Paul
Quick read; good info, IMO.
Coosing a survival firearm
Transportation in grubby times (no power/fuel)
At home in the middle of no where
Making chain saw your bes friend (make shelter and furnature and fell trees)
Escape and Evasion
Has other books in series and I intend to purhase more. A bit dated -- likely written i 1980's but info is 97% useful. We have some new weapons since then but he speaks in theory: field of fire. Close to your weapon's useful range or move out to our weapon's max range depending on what weapon you are up against -- so still useful.
I also recommend it. This is dense with old time wisdom. Much better than the modern books which have lots of great titles but light on usefull substance.
I see there is also a 1997 version, anyone read the two?
I bought the 1997 version new; I had previously ordered the 1980 edition at a cheap price but it arrived with mildew, so I had to toss it. This is a GREAT book to have. If SHTF, this will be more valuable than a dozen cases of ammo. (but have both, just in case!)
ETA: The 1997 edition contains virtually all the info that is in the 1981 version; I've compared them side by side.
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